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Did Hogan and Typhoon interact? I don't remember that.
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Rusty Shackelford posted:Did Hogan and Typhoon interact? I don't remember that. He was Hogan's pal Tugboat before that. Unless there's a joke I'm missing.
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TheKingslayer posted:He was Hogan's pal Tugboat before that. Unless there's a joke I'm missing. Right, but he turned on The Bushwhackers, not on Hogan.
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Rusty Shackelford posted:Right, but he turned on The Bushwhackers, not on Hogan. Ah right I get what you're saying. I think I remember them teasing a turn on Hogan at the very least and someone smart realized that would be a poo poo feud.
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May 31, 2022 01:13
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For some reason I also thought ol Tugger turned on Hulk
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CarlCX posted:He's maybe the single greatest possible encapsulation of the way America saw itself in the 1980s, which made him an absolutely perfect fit for that specific and completely-lacking-in-self-awareness era, and the moment it was over it aged exactly as well as the rest of 1980s America did. You can see glimpses of it in John Cena's run with Zach Ryder and Ryback. Because the problem is that Vince McMahon doesn't think that faces need friends and probably doesn't know what being a good friend entails anyway.
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Shard posted:Got a bunch of heel related questions
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Now for the face side of things. Same questions but change alignment Who's character improved the most from a face turn? Mankind. His double turn with the Rock at Survivor Series 98 was amazing and it made his character go from interesting to iconic I feel. When people think of Mankind they usually think of face turn Mankind Who's character had the best reason to turn face? Kenny Omega in NJPW - His turn when the Bullet Club turned on him only to be saved by long time partner Kota was so amazing. They shot confetti out of the ring posts just to celebrate it! What is the earliest face turn you can think of? Probably Macho Man when he became champ which lead into the Mega Powers
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I'm pretty sure the first wrestling related thing I ever saw was my parents flipping channels and landing on the Mega Powers breakup with Elizabeth eating poo poo on the outside of the ring, so that was the first heel turn too
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Nystral posted:Shawn Michaels turning from A Rocker into HBK. The first one i remember personally was andre turning on hogan but hbk and janetty is probably the single best example of a heel turn making someone's career. I think the Sergeant Slaughter, Iraqi sympathizer angle deserves a mention though because it was unimaginable to me as a little kid that the best gi joe could turn on his country
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Blue Blazer vs Mister Perfect was a good lead up to Bret vs Perfect. This was before you knew that Blazer was Owen, so it’s a fun one to look back on. EDIT: Rockers breaking up is the greatest heel turn, and it’s a testament to Shawn’s charisma that he could pull off such a dastardly heel turn, and later become the top baby face of the company. And I was a Marty kid when the Rockers were together. Open Marriage Night fucked around with this message at 07:06 on May 31, 2022 |
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Mr Perfect turning face on Ric Flair was pretty good. I remember reading an effort post on these forums a few years ago describing it really well. Batista's face turn was highly anticipated and executed perfectly.
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Ganso Bomb posted:For some reason I also thought ol Tugger turned on Hulk That was the original plan I think. Give us Sheik Tugboat and main event Wrestlemania VII but they decided Slaughter was better for it.
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Dawgstar posted:That was the original plan I think. Give us Sheik Tugboat and main event Wrestlemania VII but they decided Slaughter was better for it. I honestly couldn't tell you which of those two I'd personally choose. We know Slaughter sucked but I can't imagine Tugboat being much better.
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TheKingslayer posted:I honestly couldn't tell you which of those two I'd personally choose. We know Slaughter sucked but I can't imagine Tugboat being much better. You never know, the answer may shock you.
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When was the last effective double turn?
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Manwithastick posted:When was the last effective double turn? Ziggler and Del Rio? Maybe? Thqt seemed somewhat effective
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The first heel turn I can personally remember is Undertaker turning heel in 1998. I watched wrestling before that it's just hard to remember a specific one that stuck out to me.
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RenegadeStyle1 posted:The first heel turn I can personally remember is Undertaker turning heel in 1998. I watched wrestling before that it's just hard to remember a specific one that stuck out to me. It wasn't when he admitted to burning his brother alive. That was just character work. I think it was when he shaved his moustache off. That made him evil
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I think he didn't turn heel till he joined the Corporation right? The corporate ministry is such a stupid name.
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The Corporate Ministry might be a stupid name but Jake Roberts will turn it around when he's unveiled as the higher power.
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My favorite silly idea bandied around back then was the Higher Power uncloaking as Brian Pillman. "SMAAAAAART MAAAAAARKS"
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Hedgehog Pie posted:The Corporate Ministry might be a stupid name but Jake Roberts will turn it around when he's unveiled as the higher power. more or less the same as the mchmahon version reality but he flashes Austin his moobs the week before instead of his face
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Was there a reason why Hogan would do heel moves like back rakes and eye pokes as a babyface?
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bartok posted:Was there a reason why Hogan would do heel moves like back rakes and eye pokes as a babyface? Ring pyschology is made up and you can just sort of do whatever, it doesn't matter really
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Do CM Punk and Eddie Kingston have legit personal beef, or do they just like to bust each other's chops?
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bartok posted:Was there a reason why Hogan would do heel moves like back rakes and eye pokes as a babyface? He had to get in his grandstanding and hot dogging
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IN THE MOVIES, the baby-face often wins via cheating or outside interference and it doesn't matter. People want their favourites to win
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bartok posted:Was there a reason why Hogan would do heel moves like back rakes and eye pokes as a babyface? Those were moves the heels would always do to the babyfaces, so it was fun to watch them complain to the ref and nothing being done about it.
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Whats the quickest alignment flip that doesn't belong to Big Show? Who if I remember right, was a heel, went face, then went back heel in the span of a show?
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Roddy Piper saves Ric Flair at the Royal Rumble Bobby Heenan: Piper I take back everything I said about you. It isn't a skirt, it's a kilt! Roddy Piper attacks Flair Bobby Heenan: You skirt wearing freak!
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TheKingslayer posted:I honestly couldn't tell you which of those two I'd personally choose. We know Slaughter sucked but I can't imagine Tugboat being much better. Tugboat was probably way more mobile than Slaughter by that point at least
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NutShellBill posted:Do CM Punk and Eddie Kingston have legit personal beef, or do they just like to bust each other's chops? As far as I've ever guessed, it's both. There is legit beef there, but they're also extremely dedicated professionals about their promos.
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Who's character improved the most from a face turn? Pass. Nothing leaps out off the top of my head Who's character had the best reason to turn face? 2006 Homicide. Up to that point he'd been the "thug" with bloody brawls with Steve Corino & pouring draino down Colt Cabana's throat. He was wild as hell but in 2006 CZW invaded ROH, culminating in Homicide running in to replace the dastardly Bryan Danielson who backed on ROH during.the Cage of Death feud ender. From that point Homicide spent the next 6 months as one of the hottest babyface chasing the champion I've seen, all the while Jim Cornette & his lackies tried to stop him. What is the earliest face turn you can think of? Andre turning face at WM6 after slapping Bobby Heenan out of his shoes is the first that springs to mind
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Defenestrategy posted:Whats the quickest alignment flip that doesn't belong to Big Show? Who if I remember right, was a heel, went face, then went back heel in the span of a show? Chyna at WM 14 was heel in the corporation and accompanied Kane to face HHH, she turned on Kane to help HHh and turned face, then later on HHH (with chyna) turned heel and joined the corporation
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forkboy84 posted:Who's character improved the most from a face turn? Dusty Rhodes Hulk Hogan Steve Austin
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I will never forget having Colt Cabana hyped up to me as hilarious and my first time seeing him being the Chicago Ring of Honor blowoff match against Homicide "He's like the funniest indy guy!" *murders a man*
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Defenestrategy posted:Whats the quickest alignment flip that doesn't belong to Big Show? Who if I remember right, was a heel, went face, then went back heel in the span of a show? It has to be someone in Russo era WCW turning multiple times over the course of a segment. I have no idea if this has happened but I'm almost certain it has.
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Dr. Quarex posted:I will never forget having Colt Cabana hyped up to me as hilarious and my first time seeing him being the Chicago Ring of Honor blowoff match against Homicide Was that the cage match? My memory is hazy but I remember seeing Homicide in a cage match at an ROH show and I'm pretty sure it was the blowoff to a feud
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