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I was watching an episode of Bad Batch that had a few neat ships in it. Cad Bane's Justifier is a neat but weird design. They actually toned down some of the more eccentric bits from the original concept art from the scrapped season of Clone Wars, but most importantly, they took out some of the cutouts to make it plausible for to have cells in there for prisoners. It still has the whole deal with the extending/rotating arms in back.   Fennec Shand's ship looks pretty sleek and fast as Star Wars ships go, and presumably it has a decent space for carrying people or cargo.  Something I think is pretty unique about these ships is that usually with Star Wars ships, anything bigger than a fighter will have a copilot seat, and often a few passenger seats in the cockpit to really get a whole RPG party amount of people in there. But these two ships both explicitly have one person cockpits. Real nice high-visibility deals too, but no place for a copilot. Better hope the autopilot can save you if something goes wrong.   It seems like a thing that would only really make sense for a bounty hunter, because most any ship for long journeys would include a copilot seat if there's room, and there's not really many situations you wouldn't want to have a spare pilot for if there's room, or even just a place for a passenger, because it's reasonable to expect a ship that size to have passengers at some point, and they'd want to see what's happening up front. These are sizable ships designed to be operated and used by just one person, as opposed to all the ships around that size that are meant for like an RPG party to operate out of. There were also some Saiyan pods that aren't really spaceships, but apparently Kaminoans use them to get around. I don't think they've ever been depicted actually working as intended though.  
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This is just One-One from Infinity Train
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Jun 1, 2022 08:37
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:This is just One-One from Infinity Train 
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Jun 1, 2022 14:15
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This here is Niezwyciężony (The Invincible) as depicted in the graphic novel adaptation of Stanisław Lem's, well, "The Invincible" (as seen on the first and last pages):  And here you can see it the trailer for the graphic novel itself (sadly, the GN itself was not translated) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIQ7ZAP6D7U
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Jun 1, 2022 21:23
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Bossks ship without the wings
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Jun 1, 2022 21:55
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  https://twitter.com/PapaPandamonium/status/1530335877368582147 https://twitter.com/PapaPandamonium/status/1529441473581686784
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Jun 17, 2022 07:03
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The D-7/K'tinga battlecruiser held my imagination since the first time I saw it (I think it was the first spaceship model I built), and in all its incarnations over the years, still looks badass. There's no real definitive layout of the interior, but I like to imagine the crew is all clustered into the pod on the front, like it's a Ju-88. 
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Jun 17, 2022 21:33
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Now the question is: is it wearing a hat or a Geordi visor?
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Jun 17, 2022 21:42
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Arc Hammer posted:Now the question is: is it wearing a hat or a Geordi visor? It's a happy little frog on a lily pad, obvs.
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Jun 17, 2022 21:47
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I like the idea that the long neck is required due to how the cloaking devices worked, but then again that wasn't even a thing until Star Trek 3 last-minute changed the Bird of Prey from a stolen Romulan ship to just Klingon.
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Jun 17, 2022 22:21
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jeeves posted:I like the idea that the long neck is required due to how the cloaking devices worked, but then again that wasn't even a thing until Star Trek 3 last-minute changed the Bird of Prey from a stolen Romulan ship to just Klingon. I heard it was because Klingons run their drives real dirty, so it's Imperials up in the command pod and slave races in the engineering spaces.
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Jun 18, 2022 08:11
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The opening swing-over here's just a gorgeous shot, they detailed the hell out of those models and then put all that detail to excellent use. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7GRKG25YFU MikeJF fucked around with this message at 09:29 on Jun 18, 2022 |
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Jun 18, 2022 09:21
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some cool looking ships in upcoming RPG Torchship by goon open_sketchbook https://twitter.com/open_sketchbook/status/1535879912892014595 https://twitter.com/open_sketchbook/status/1535163658950811649 https://twitter.com/open_sketchbook/status/1527541105054601221 https://twitter.com/open_sketchbook/status/1521213018461421569
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Jun 18, 2022 13:53
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drat, those are some fine old school designs made all shiny and new.
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Jun 18, 2022 15:52
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Madurai posted:The D-7/K'tinga battlecruiser held my imagination since the first time I saw it (I think it was the first spaceship model I built), and in all its incarnations over the years, still looks badass. There's no real definitive layout of the interior, but I like to imagine the crew is all clustered into the pod on the front, like it's a Ju-88. That design just screams menace from every angle.
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Obligatory excellent hypothetical floorplans for the K'Tinga. I fukken love any of those Strategic Design floorplans, even if the original Constitution Enterprise seems a little too small. Edit - the JBOT blueprints for the Constitution seem a lot more realistic for a star ship that goes out into the unknown for 5 year spans, size-wise. jeeves fucked around with this message at 19:21 on Jun 18, 2022 |
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Jun 18, 2022 19:17
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Darth Brooks posted:That design just screams menace from every angle. Funnily enough the original concepts for it are pretty stinkin' cute 
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jeeves posted:Obligatory excellent hypothetical floorplans for the K'Tinga. There's been a few Klingon ones over the years. The Strategic Design ones are still vaguely under rights but I did add the earlier 1970s McMaster ones to my browser at one point. (I actually got permission to do the JBot ones at one point too, I need to set up an en mass conversion and do those at one point) (Don't spread that browser around it's very much a hobby project WIP) (and thus may be broken for you  )
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MikeJF posted:Funnily enough the original concepts for it are pretty stinkin' cute ... So this whole time I've watched Star Trek i never realized that Klingon ships are an inverted version of starfleet profiles with a round bridge instead of a saucer.
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Wasn’t the enterprise originally designed upside down?
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a sexual elk posted:Wasn’t the enterprise originally designed upside down? One of the avenues explored during conception, yes. 
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Supposedly Gene had some rough rules for how nacelles needed to be arranged on warp drive starships. Warp nacelles *must* be in pairs. Warp nacelles must have at least 50% line-of-sight on each other across the hull. Both warp nacelles must be fully visible from the front. The bridge must be located at the top center of the primary hull. This helps explain why the Klingon ships have a similar arrangement to the federation ships.
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a sexual elk posted:Wasn’t the enterprise originally designed upside down? The Reliant was, sort of. The original plan had the nacelles on top, but the person who approved the designs signed off on it in a way that made it clear he had been looking at it upside-down. The designers spent some time deciding whether to reply pointing this out, but ended up just rolling with it.
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Jun 19, 2022 05:28
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The Enterprise was designed the way it was, but when they were presenting the models to Rodenberry it rolled over and he liked it so much they nearly went with the upside-down version, Jeffries had to talk him out of it.
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Bucnasti posted:Supposedly Gene had some rough rules for how nacelles needed to be arranged on warp drive starships. This is why the d'dredrex has that negative space in the middle, so the nacelles can see each other. This does not explain the bird of prey or ferengi marauder lacking that design aspect.
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twistedmentat posted:This is why the d'dredrex has that negative space in the middle, so the nacelles can see each other. You can't really expect continuity and consistency from a man blasted out of his mind on coke and pills.
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twistedmentat posted:This is why the d'dredrex has that negative space in the middle, so the nacelles can see each other. Or several others. They dropped the requirement as time went on.
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IIRC, Gene only put these rules in place after Franz Joseph's Technical Manual came out and he saw it making profit that he wasn't capitalizing on. The single and three nacelled designs were his ticket to declare arbitrary rules and slow the Manual's sales. I could be pulling this memory from my rear end.
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twistedmentat posted:This is why the d'dredrex has that negative space in the middle, so the nacelles can see each other. The Marauder has a concave underside, so the nacelles have line of sight. I don't recall any explanation for the Bird of Prey though. Maybe there's a tunnel between the nacelles inside the ship.
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Hispanic! At The Disco posted:The Marauder has a concave underside, so the nacelles have line of sight. I don't recall any explanation for the Bird of Prey though. Maybe there's a tunnel between the nacelles inside the ship. The nacelles on the BoP are those two humps on the back of the ship, so they can see each other in both wings down and wings up positions. Or at least that's how Star Trek Online depicts them.
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Lemniscate Blue posted:You can't really expect continuity and consistency from a man blasted out of his mind on coke and pills. This is true. Coke, pills and harassing the women around him. Hispanic! At The Disco posted:The Marauder has a concave underside, so the nacelles have line of sight. I don't recall any explanation for the Bird of Prey though. Maybe there's a tunnel between the nacelles inside the ship. You know the one I had as a model when was I was a teen had a flat bottom. I never knew that.
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Lemniscate Blue posted:You can't really expect continuity and consistency from a man blasted out of his mind on coke and pills. Roddenberry didn't have any hard creative control over the movies after The Motion Picture, so the Bird of Prey not confirming to his rules isn't really on him
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Jintozook81 posted:
This is literally just SDF-1 and Whitebase (Macross and Gundam, the two big Japanese mecha franchises of their era)... I don't hate it, but I don't think its a very imaginative combination. Can you guys think of any ship designs where you squint and just see other ship designs? Also here, I'm curious to know what you guys think of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzwBB8ZPNyc Possibly one of my favourite channels on all of Youtube, and very high quality posting. Its a crime that more people don't follow his work. What do you think of the brick-gun-slop-ship problem?
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Less people follow him because he sounds like a pretentious poo poo head fanboy. Like I gave up after 3 minutes because he was just jerking himself off over how awesome he was and stating that there is "A PROBLEM" without ever actually laying out what THE PROBLEM is.
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CainFortea posted:Less people follow him because he sounds like a pretentious poo poo head fanboy. I'll be sure to pass that on lol he is very anti-fanboy energy though once he gets going and he does a lot of ironyposting so idk, poe's law is at work here I think Expo70 fucked around with this message at 19:54 on Jun 19, 2022 |
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twistedmentat posted:You know the one I had as a model when was I was a teen had a flat bottom. I never knew that. It was a Probert design, which meant nothing was simply flat and the whole thing was made of complex curves that the model-makers cursed him over.
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MikeJF posted:The Enterprise was designed the way it was, but when they were presenting the models to Rodenberry it rolled over and he liked it so much they nearly went with the upside-down version, Jeffries had to talk him out of it. I had heard he liked the upside-down version, but signed the drawing the wrong way, so when the model makers got the drawing, they had to flip it over so that the signature was right-side up making the ship appear as it does.
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Roddenberry didn't have any hard creative control over the movies after The Motion Picture, so the Bird of Prey not confirming to his rules isn't really on him The Bird of Prey is entirely the fault of Nilo Rodis at ILM, and to a lesser extent Harve Bennett and Nimoy; the latter two didn't really care about designs. Which is how we got the Romulan Bird of Prey becoming a Klingon vessel, even though they'd never had avian imagery before, and the idiotic mushroom design for Spacedock.
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The BoP is the best designed ship in trek so who cares if it breaks nerd rules
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The original Bird of Prey was designed to be a stolen Federation design before that was cut and it was just made Romulan, so it fits that the movie Bird of Prey was designed to be a stolen Romulan ship before that was cut and it was just made Klingon. (I wonder if the original plan before that was cut was that after Balance of Terror they'd repaint it in Federation colours and have it show up as a Fed ship) MikeJF fucked around with this message at 03:58 on Jun 20, 2022 |
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