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Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


fast cars loose anus posted:

I didn't realize when I posted that what "earned media" meant and I looked it up and its word of mouth, basically. Reviews, likes, shares, etc. i.e. the single most effective coverage anyone can get and the Dems he talked to are like "yeah they're just trying for organic word of mouth outreach :rolleyes:"

The Republicans saw an opening and immediately came up with something innovative to exploit it, apparently successfully. The Dems meanwhile fail at having any kind of Spanish language outreach in loving Florida, the Dems are historically bad at politics

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Zvahl
Oct 14, 2005

научный кот

Agean90 posted:

The Republicans saw an opening and immediately came up with something innovative to exploit it, apparently successfully. The Dems meanwhile fail at having any kind of Spanish language outreach in loving Florida, the Dems are historically bad at politics

hey that's not fair, they came up with trump's new slogan

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

fast cars loose anus posted:

I didn't realize when I posted that what "earned media" meant and I looked it up and its word of mouth, basically. Reviews, likes, shares, etc. i.e. the single most effective coverage anyone can get and the Dems he talked to are like "yeah they're just trying for organic word of mouth outreach :rolleyes:"

What you’re missing is there are no kickbacks on earned media, while paid media (esp TV ads) give a 5-15% kickback to the media consultant when a campaign purchases them.

So of course Democratic media consultants think the thing that will give them a million dollar check from the TV stations works the best. And they have the fanciest presentations to prove it too!

fast cars loose anus
Mar 2, 2007

Pillbug

Agean90 posted:

The Republicans saw an opening and immediately came up with something innovative to exploit it, apparently successfully. The Dems meanwhile fail at having any kind of Spanish language outreach in loving Florida, the Dems are historically bad at politics

The only thing I would quibble with here is that there is nothing remotely innovative about "making a place where people can go and hang and have free dinners and talk politics" its literally one of the first things organized political parties ever did

really queer Christmas
Apr 22, 2014

fast cars loose anus posted:

The only thing I would quibble with here is that there is nothing remotely innovative about "making a place where people can go and hang and have free dinners and talk politics" its literally one of the first things organized political parties ever did

Everything old is new again

Dr. Kyle Farnsworth
Apr 23, 2004

democrats are going to counter by opening a place where libs that think they're the snarky gay sidekick in a 90s sitcom lecture you on voting then fold their arms and do the pixar smirk

but they do have gluten free cookies namaste

a few DRUNK BONERS
Mar 25, 2016

Dr. Kyle Farnsworth posted:

democrats are going to counter by opening a place where libs that think they're the snarky gay sidekick in a 90s sitcom lecture you on voting then fold their arms and do the pixar smirk

but they do have gluten free cookies namaste

democrats have entirely left the physical world, if they open a place it will be in the metaverse

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


Imagine how much of a slam dunk it would have been for the democrats to just bypass legislature and have the parties buy baby formula, send it to where it's needed and hand that poo poo out for free with COURTESY OF DIAMOND JOE AND THE DEMOCRATS on a fuckoff sized banner. Imagine if everytime the Republicans stonewalled them in Congress they'd just do something like that. All these years all the donor bucks and they just sit on them

projecthalaxy
Dec 27, 2008

Yes hello it is I Kurt's Secret Son


I thought the main problem is/was there just flat wasn't any formula to buy or did I get MSM'd on that

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

Dr. Kyle Farnsworth posted:

democrats are going to counter by opening a place where libs that think they're the snarky gay sidekick in a 90s sitcom lecture you on voting then fold their arms and do the pixar smirk

but they do have gluten free cookies namaste

it will be an ethically sourced coffee shop where the workers are temps paid minimum wage

jk the dems would never do outreach

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

Best Friends posted:

it will be an ethically sourced coffee shop where the workers are temps paid minimum wage

jk the dems would never do outreach

please they'd be unpaid volunteers

fast cars loose anus
Mar 2, 2007

Pillbug

Agean90 posted:

Imagine how much of a slam dunk it would have been for the democrats to just bypass legislature and have the parties buy baby formula, send it to where it's needed and hand that poo poo out for free with COURTESY OF DIAMOND JOE AND THE DEMOCRATS on a fuckoff sized banner. Imagine if everytime the Republicans stonewalled them in Congress they'd just do something like that. All these years all the donor bucks and they just sit on them

I'm trying to imagine this but I keep getting distracted coming up with the means testing they'd put on it

projecthalaxy
Dec 27, 2008

Yes hello it is I Kurt's Secret Son


Remember during the 2016 general when the Michigan or whatever dems were like "please abuela may we have even one yard sign, a crumb of pamphlet" and promptly got embedded by ducklo lol

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

Agean90 posted:

Imagine how much of a slam dunk it would have been for the democrats to just bypass legislature and have the parties buy baby formula, send it to where it's needed and hand that poo poo out for free with COURTESY OF DIAMOND JOE AND THE DEMOCRATS on a fuckoff sized banner. Imagine if everytime the Republicans stonewalled them in Congress they'd just do something like that. All these years all the donor bucks and they just sit on them

one time the DNC tried to do something similar with donuts but the leftists threw a fit so yeah no pleasing those leftists

oscarthewilde
May 16, 2012


I would often go there
To the tiny church there

good article and more evidence the idiot democrats deserve to lose, but this is the most repugnant, awful media poo poo I've ever seen. who the gently caress thought gamifying journalism was a good idea? purely out of spite I'm never gonna read anything these dickheads write ever again.

oscarthewilde
May 16, 2012


I would often go there
To the tiny church there
gently caress, i hate this so much. the rationalisation of the social is the one of the worst consequences of enlightenment liberalism, and I hate it so much. reducing thick, indeterminate concepts to loving points is a gateway drug to neoliberal means-testing and glorifying the free market as the rational solution to all of mankind's problems. adorno, horkheimer and kaczyinsky were loving right

oscarthewilde
May 16, 2012


I would often go there
To the tiny church there
you can't meaningfully critique the dems from the left, when you're stuck in the exact same problematic paradigm as they are

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

spacemang_spliff posted:

I just say they have access to my vote and leave it at that lol

I've been doing this but more specific to whatever the issue democrats are doing nothing on at the time.

"Access to my vote is means tested for any political party that passes legislation codifying Roe into law ahead of the SC decision"
"Access to my vote is means tested for any political party that cancels at least $10,000 in student loan debt for every debtor"
"Eligible political parties that have a strong platform of reining in police budgets and banning firearms have access to my vote within 3 to 6 months"

fast cars loose anus
Mar 2, 2007

Pillbug
God dammit lol

quote:

But the RNC’s community center model works year-round rather than just the month before the election, and doesn’t pester voters at home but lures them in. Given the astonishing costs of political advertising now, the cost per voter of renting a center and doling out free pizza is not as inefficient as it once seemed. It borrows, in many ways, from the sustained organizing model of the Bernie Sanders campaign.

“It’s really smart politics,” said Chuck Rocha, president of Solidarity Strategies, who ran the famously successful Latino outreach program for Sanders in 2020. “Because they have unlimited money and support … they can go in and put these community centers up with the facade that they care about the community. What they’re really trying to do is spend a bunch of money just to get three or four more percent of the Black or brown vote.”

"It works but its not authentic" I say as the Republicans slowly chip away at demographics I used to count on

Dr. Kyle Farnsworth
Apr 23, 2004

"You gotta vote!"
"Republicans have an organized plan to challenge votes"
"That's why you gotta vote!!!!"

https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2022/06/01/gop-contest-elections-tapes-00035758

the white hand
Nov 12, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Zvahl posted:

see also: happy funbux for ukrainian nazis

wait til they discover what the bux being fun entails

ex post facho
Oct 25, 2007

this is who I voted for in 2020 :unsmith:

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

fast cars loose anus posted:

God dammit lol

"It works but its not authentic" I say as the Republicans slowly chip away at demographics I used to count on

Trying to win by appealing to voters is an unfair and underhanded tactic

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

ex post facho posted:

this is who I voted for in 2020 :unsmith:

high five, terf or no she’s at least she’s part of a socialist party that could rein her in and not the loser lib Green Party. Hawkinsmania was some fremdschaemen poo poo.

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler

oscarthewilde posted:

good article and more evidence the idiot democrats deserve to lose, but this is the most repugnant, awful media poo poo I've ever seen. who the gently caress thought gamifying journalism was a good idea? purely out of spite I'm never gonna read anything these dickheads write ever again.



Lol this is a brilliant idea to encourage engagement from the sort of people who think reading this stuff makes them well-informed, 'cos it quantifies to them just how much more knowledgable they are compared to the average joe and will make them even more insufferably smug than they are now.

fast cars loose anus
Mar 2, 2007

Pillbug

Pistol_Pete posted:

Lol this is a brilliant idea to encourage engagement from the sort of people who think reading this stuff makes them well-informed, 'cos it quantifies to them just how much more knowledgable they are compared to the average joe and will make them even more insufferably smug than they are now.

It's frankly shocking that Vox didn't come up with it first

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

D&D is going to start requiring at least 500 knowledge points to post on a subject. All knowledge points will be provided exclusively by The Washington Post.

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

Agean90 posted:

Imagine how much of a slam dunk it would have been for the democrats to just bypass legislature and have the parties buy baby formula, send it to where it's needed and hand that poo poo out for free with COURTESY OF DIAMOND JOE AND THE DEMOCRATS on a fuckoff sized banner. Imagine if everytime the Republicans stonewalled them in Congress they'd just do something like that. All these years all the donor bucks and they just sit on them

That would be a diversion of critical resources away from the sucker -> dnc -> consultant grifter -> ad buying grifter -> focus group running grifter -> ad producing grifter supply chain

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

oscarthewilde posted:

gently caress, i hate this so much. the rationalisation of the social is the one of the worst consequences of enlightenment liberalism, and I hate it so much. reducing thick, indeterminate concepts to loving points is a gateway drug to neoliberal means-testing and glorifying the free market as the rational solution to all of mankind's problems. adorno, horkheimer and kaczyinsky were loving right

You don't have enough points for this opinion, please edit your post tia

Poco
Jul 17, 2005

....I am a Tariff Man

Wow, the dems not doing anything about worsening material conditions and mass death? Shocking!

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

fast cars loose anus posted:

God dammit lol

"It works but its not authentic" I say as the Republicans slowly chip away at demographics I used to count on

the funniest part is all the talk about 'unlimited money' from republicans, as if democrats weren't having gigantically successful fundraising the last decade

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010




lmao this article is apocalyptic for dems

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



projecthalaxy posted:

I thought the main problem is/was there just flat wasn't any formula to buy or did I get MSM'd on that

they're buying formula in england and australia and then flying it over in military cargo planes

https://twitter.com/DeItaone/status/1532030762517774337

then they're giving it to target

https://twitter.com/DeItaone/status/1532031137526296580

fast cars loose anus
Mar 2, 2007

Pillbug

Shear Modulus posted:

they're buying formula in england and australia and then flying it over in military cargo planes

https://twitter.com/DeItaone/status/1532030762517774337

then they're giving it to target

https://twitter.com/DeItaone/status/1532031137526296580

lmao at not only giving it to a store but to the store that is for people who look down on Walmart

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

lol wasn't the biggest issue with the formula shortage also that the specialty ones are missing as well

but hey they did... something

the white hand
Nov 12, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Shear Modulus posted:

lmao this article is apocalyptic for dems

https://twitter.com/AdamChew1/status/1532000915384721408

lol a trojan horse. by appearing to form deep community ties,

DoubleDonut
Oct 22, 2010


Fallen Rib
i really hate that “doing anything except debates is cheating at politics” is just established democrat dogma at this point

Buck Wildman
Mar 30, 2010

I am Metango, Galactic Governor


ground level community outreach? I gave a bum a granola bar once isn't that enough for these people?

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

they’re trashing it for being similar to Bernie’s Latino outreach

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joepinetree
Apr 5, 2012
Most democrats really aren't aware of how out of touch they are. I always remember Obama's old plan to "fix" student debt. The idea was that the government would create a ranking of universities based on metrics like % who graduate on time and % who remain enrolled, and reducing student loans available to students enrolled at universities and colleges who got low scores on those criteria. And it was on the verge of being adopted, until community colleges organized themselves to point out that it is very common for students of communities colleges who also work to take semesters off, or just be part time students, and that as such this would essentially devastate community colleges.

Now, stop and think about that for a second: all the "experts" in the Obama admin simply did not think about community colleges in their college plan, despite it being by far the largest type of institution in the US by enrollment. Democrat higher ups are essentially incapable of imagining the world of people who haven't been chasing prestige and credentials from birth.

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