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Playing D2 solo feels like doing chores. I prefer to do the weekly story poo poo alone but literally everything else is better teamed up, especially the dumber PvP modes.
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The problems with Rift highlight Iron Banner's identity crisis. Is it meant to be for everybody to pile in and have fun with PvP for a week? Is it meant to be an endgame activity for sweatlords? Bungie clearly wants it to be the latter when the community clearly prefers it as the former. The version of Rift they released makes sense for people dedicated to playing an objective game mode but make no sense for a casual game mode meant to encourage participation and experimentation. They should flip the spark and the rifts. Each team spawns with a spark to pick up and a rift spawns randomly that both teams race to dunk on.
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Aqua Dracula posted:The problems with Rift highlight Iron Banner's identity crisis. Is it meant to be for everybody to pile in and have fun with PvP for a week? Is it meant to be an endgame activity for sweatlords? Bungie clearly wants it to be the latter when the community clearly prefers it as the former. The version of Rift they released makes sense for people dedicated to playing an objective game mode but make no sense for a casual game mode meant to encourage participation and experimentation. Except in their big pitch for how they were revamping IB they talked about it like it was supposed to be the former. Like that was part of the whole reason they moved IB to the seasonal event area up-front in the Tower, etc. Trials is pretty explicitly supposed to be the end-game sweatlord PVP activity.
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VanillaGorilla posted:Except in their big pitch for how they were revamping IB they talked about it like it was supposed to be the former. Like that was part of the whole reason they moved IB to the seasonal event area up-front in the Tower, etc. Trials is pretty explicitly supposed to be the end-game sweatlord PVP activity. That is what they said, absolutely. The design of Rift does not align with that philosophy in any way.
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the crucible has as a deliberate design parameter that potato players like me end up sad and miserable. i mostly deal with this by ignoring crucible pinnacles entirely, but when i'm forced into it by exotic catalysts or seasonal challenges my play is basically indistinguishable from griefing. like i'm pretty sure that when i was working on the ticuu's catalyst i had full games where i literally had a combat efficiency of 0.0 and gave up a ton of free points.
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Rift is a great mode to pile in and have a great time!
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Reiterpallasch posted:like i'm pretty sure that when i was working on the ticuu's catalyst i had full games where i literally had a combat efficiency of 0.0 and gave up a ton of free points. You are not the only one 
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Aqua Dracula posted:The problems with Rift highlight Iron Banner's identity crisis. Is it meant to be for everybody to pile in and have fun with PvP for a week? Is it meant to be an endgame activity for sweatlords? Bungie clearly wants it to be the latter when the community clearly prefers it as the former. The version of Rift they released makes sense for people dedicated to playing an objective game mode but make no sense for a casual game mode meant to encourage participation and experimentation. Ding ding ding Also Bungie supposedly wants it to be the former. quote:
Given the overwhelming response from folks not stacking has been (to put it politely) “uhhhh switch it back” it boggles the mind that Bungie thought this was a good idea. Rather than forcing it as banner they should have debuted it as its own playlist with a heavy, heavy emphasis on going in as a group. Then maybe some of the positive word of mouth from groups could have gotten ahead of things. Seems like a series of missteps and missed opportunities. As it is, having it be the banner mode and even offering a solo playlist version seems really silly. And given all of the problems of non-stacked rift from d1 either remain or are exacerbated, not sure why they spent so much time reworking d1 rift. A Buffer Gay Dude fucked around with this message at 21:11 on Jun 1, 2022 |
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Jun 1, 2022 21:07
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Rift is a great mode to pile in and have a great time! *there's nuance in which CTF doesn't suck, see my earlier post
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I remain a big fan of the game but I swear Destiny gives me the same "divided dev team" vibes as WoW - like some of the decisions they make fly in the face of so much of the rhetoric that they put out to the playerbase. It's hard not to imagine that there's some weird cabal of grognard developers on the team that insist on poo poo like holding fast to their dumb beliefs about matchmaking or the current situation with IB and Rift. Everybody in the WoW community laughed at the idea for years and then we found out it was actually true, and a bunch of them turned out to be abusive dickheads to boot. VanillaGorilla fucked around with this message at 21:32 on Jun 1, 2022 |
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A Buffer Gay Dude posted:Ding ding ding Howling that they said all this and then within an hour of reset dmg hit twitter to tell everyone to watch tutorial videos and team up to discuss strategy
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Jun 1, 2022 21:21
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Oh my god ib rift is so loving bad holy poo poo Clueless, clueless devs
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Control worked for Iron Banner because PvP tryhards could stomp all the dabblers to their hearts' content while ignoring the objectives, and all the dabblers could at least pretend they were contributing by capturing control zones. Rift punishes both groups and rewards neither. Obviously there is a learning curve and a lot of these things will alleviate over time as players adjust but, again, this completely contradicts the Iron Banner as the big come-one-come-all PvP circus event.
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Jun 1, 2022 21:27
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Taking a break from Rift to post I'm having a great time playing Rift OK going back for more Rift
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My fireteam is just out of frame, laughing too
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haveblue posted:No one cares about rep when actually playing the game is unbearable. Nobody did the challenge to get 2000 kills with a fusion rifle while underleveled either Wrong, bitch. I did 2,500 with Jotunn and Rift is fun
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Pretzel Rod Stewart posted:Wrong, bitch. I did 2,500 with Jotunn and Rift is fun lol you crazy I did like 7 of those kills and said No mas
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Jun 1, 2022 21:48
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Any time I’m doing poo poo that’s tedious and just number go up, I put on an audiobook or podcast and turn off the caring part of my brain. Highly recommended for all Crucible stuff except comp and Trials
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It really feels like Bungie was weighing a lot on this being the first seasonal update to introduce a new destination, but not only is it all recycled content, the reason destinations are only introduced in expansions are because they’re made for the casual players who check in to play the new campaign once a year - and for anyone even invested enough to be following the seasons, destinations are beyond useless. They’re big empty spaces full of enemies way below your power level where you can accomplish nothing. Not to mention that seasons usually come with two activities, and somehow they managed to pick the worst of each - the basically-a-public-event of Seraph Towers, and the barren mini-strikes of Expunge. I think I read somewhere that Bungie put the most work into Season of the Drifter during the Forsaken year and was mega proud of hit and thought it would be a smash hit with the players only to see it be the poorest-received of that year, so I don't think this was "lazy devs" or anything - acting like Bungie was trying to hide the content of Season of the Haunted with its weird secrecy and all the Bungie employees tweeting about how amazing this next season was and yadda yadda assumes a level of malice that I just don't think makes sense. Every now and then they just miss what the playerbase is actually interested. Pobody's nerfect. But I get to craft my own Austringer now so actually I will be Joe Blackburn's personal doorstep. Pirate Jet fucked around with this message at 22:19 on Jun 1, 2022 |
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Right, so the only way to win Iron Banner is to not play it. Waaaaay ahead of you on that. I liked this week's story development. When I first met Crow (before doing Forsaken, btw) he was a bit too grating, and knowing the guy he used to be I frequently used the phrase "God dammit, Uldren!" whenever he screwed up, but he's steadily earned my respect, even with the whole psion snafu. Crow-kun is my buddy and now we have Uldren's spirit crashing on the H.E.L.M. suddenly, which is probably the most Uldren thing he can do.
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I don't know why people think this is the end of Crow's arc based on the names of the upcoming Sever missions.
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Hackan Slash posted:I don't know why people think this is the end of Crow's arc based on the names of the upcoming Sever missions. Probably because there have already been two other prominently featured NPCs with nightmares, one of whom has had a previous nightmare hunt with the same name as one of the sever missions
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Panderfringe posted:Except the plot for accomplishing it was literally do a thing, it fails. Then do that thing again, completely unchanged, but it succeeds this time? And they don't even get rid of the ghost, they just become buddies. you're missing the parts where Eris tells Crow (repeatedly, over the course of a week or more) that the reason that it failed the first time was because he was doing it wrong she also explained that the nightmares aren't actually sentient entities, they're a security system of the pyramid that manifests a person's guilt and shame. all it takes to undermine them is to forgive yourself, something that we spent an entire questline doing for Eris in Shadowkeep, so it's definitely not like it came out of nowhere the only silly part is that the nightmare turned blue after Crow overcame it, but we haven't actually seen a Lightbearer get haunted by/overcome a nightmare up until now, so that might be a side effect of Crow injecting his Light into the construct and overwriting its original Darkness-fueled purpose with a Light-fueled one basically all of it makes sense and is a reasonable storyline as long as you're actually paying attention to the things that have happened up until now
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We're going to blueize fikrul and sic him on calus aren't we
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...if I play this Iron Banner with the normal non-Freelance queue there's a higher chance of quick stomps either way right? AKA faster game finishes for those pinnacles
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I just did my whole IB quest and pinnacle in like an hour of play, went 5-2 in freelance queue, it’s fine, everyone needs to calm the hell down lol
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https://i.imgur.com/VAFIlPu.gifv The longest yard....
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Bust Rodd posted:I just did my whole IB quest and pinnacle in like an hour of play, went 5-2 in freelance queue, it’s fine, everyone needs to calm the hell down lol Some people enjoy playing PVP for more than an hour and would like a game mode that is fun to play instead of a 1 hour chore.
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FlapYoJacks posted:Some people enjoy playing PVP for more than an hour and would like a game mode that is fun to play instead of a 1 hour chore. More Maps, More Maps!!! Two resets on three maps? Eat my nuts!!!
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Bust Rodd posted:I just did my whole IB quest and pinnacle in like an hour of play, went 5-2 in freelance queue, it’s fine, everyone needs to calm the hell down lol The more black screens I get during a match (not before, not after, but actually during), the less calm I get I don't give a poo poo if I'm winning or losing, it is such a poo poo game mode that is like american football, constantly stutter-stop with no flow or pacing
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Season is bad. Seems strangely halloween-esque so maybe it was season 18 before they decided to switch or something? It's so barren and bug-filled even if we got a new destination. Dungeon is cool but feels small. Also I'm one of those lore persons and it's lacking in that respect more and more every season. And now Seth Dickinson is totally gone, I think. I'm hoping maybe he'll write the yearly things because he was the best lore dude. I miss when lore was more sci-fantasy than just straight fantasy
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FlapYoJacks posted:Some people enjoy playing PVP for more than an hour and would like a game mode that is fun to play instead of a 1 hour chore. So go play Crucible or Comp???
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Bust Rodd posted:So go play Crucible or Comp??? Lol at suggesting comp. I do play control and trials. The response to “the game mode that used to be fun isn't fun” shouldn't be “lol go play a different mode then.”
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They can fix the pacing between rounds by putting up a scoreboard. That's exactly how Trials and Survival does it.
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Eej posted:They can fix the pacing between rounds by putting up a scoreboard. That's exactly how Trials and Survival does it. Or the can remove rounds altogether.
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I think the rounds need to exist otherwise first wipe would get an insurmountable snowballing lead.
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D1 rift had spawn camp issues so they added the rounds. But d1 rift also had points for different things and the person carrying the rift couldn't shoot so you actually had to play as a team.
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I played my matches as a support witha a Lumi-Sembler build and it felt...fine? Yeah it sucks when you play with pubs, but that's a part of Crucible that has always sucked. The mode itself needs that extra time before it goes into the rotator, though. Shortening round requirements and respawn timers in Freelance, fixing the spark despawn issue when multiple people grab for it / falling through the map, and general adjustment in playstyle will help with a lot of the implementation. It could just be me being optimistic about having a favorite game mode back, but none of these things feel as broken as some other things D2 has done. As others have said, it definitely feels balanced for teams with comms rather than randoms. And we still have other pinnacles and a weekly story to hold us over until the next week when Saladin leaves again to go hang out with his new friends.
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Eej posted:I think the rounds need to exist otherwise first wipe would get an insurmountable snowballing lead. So turn down the excruciating respawn time
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