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T'Pring is a cop! "Initial diplomatic discussions were undertaken by the Tellarites" oh man this show has its in jokes down
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CLAM DOWN posted:This is the best Star Trek since DS9. Change my mind. You're not wrong, and it's not because nuTrek for the most part is a low bar to clear either. I was waiting for a lower stakes, casual, more character driven episode with a proper A and B plot and it didn't disappoint. Love seeing the crew just do things on their off time like in the old Trek. What's the purpose of the green tunic on Pike/Kirk in TOS, is it just an alternative to the usual command gold? Mr. Funktastic fucked around with this message at 23:49 on Jun 2, 2022 |
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punishedkissinger posted:TOS???? Better than it so far.
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All we need now is a good classic timefuck episode with four quantum displaced Hemmers shouting at each other
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It is weird but I didn't watch the season 3 premiere of The Orville. Since SNW isn't garbage I don't need it, I guess? Maybe when SNW ends this season I will catch up, but for right now my itch is being scratched, compared to Discovery that wasn't scratching anything (except me scratching my eyes out)
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Arglebargle III posted:T'Pring is a cop! amok
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The Fuzzy Hulk posted:It is weird but I didn't watch the season 3 premiere of The Orville. Since SNW isn't garbage I don't need it, I guess? Maybe when SNW ends this season I will catch up, but for right now my itch is being scratched, compared to Discovery that wasn't scratching anything (except me scratching my eyes out) They're not making any more probably so I lost interest
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Arglebargle III posted:T'Pring is a cop! Acab Time
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 My man was about to get some lotus root pilaf but he let it get cold. Life (in space) is hard. (Lotus root is my one of my favorite vegetables and if you've never had it run down to your local Chinese market and try it out. It cooks like potato slices.)
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The Fuzzy Hulk posted:It is weird but I didn't watch the season 3 premiere of The Orville. Since SNW isn't garbage I don't need it, I guess? Maybe when SNW ends this season I will catch up, but for right now my itch is being scratched, compared to Discovery that wasn't scratching anything (except me scratching my eyes out) It was a very good episode, worth watching.
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Arglebargle III posted:
I noticed that right off too, proud Trek tradition of using Asian vegetables for alien food. The Fuzzy Hulk posted:It is weird but I didn't watch the season 3 premiere of The Orville. Since SNW isn't garbage I don't need it, I guess? Maybe when SNW ends this season I will catch up, but for right now my itch is being scratched, compared to Discovery that wasn't scratching anything (except me scratching my eyes out) You should go watch it, it was fantastic. Maybe my favorite episode of the show. It's funny that Orville is the substantial and deep show now and Trek is the popcorn entertainment. Enjoying both but in different ways. Grand Fromage fucked around with this message at 00:11 on Jun 3, 2022 |
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punishedkissinger posted:TOS???? TOS is a giant pile of trash with a few gems shining through the heap
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Charity Porno posted:TOS is a giant pile of trash with a few gems shining through the heap Not really, I don't think. It only falls apart in the third season. Most of the first and second seasons are pretty good, with the rest being ok. Season 1, the only episode I consider actively bad is The Alternative Factor, where on the other hand, it gives us The Naked Time, The City on the Edge of Forever, , The Devil in the Dark,, Space Seed, A Taste of Armageddon, Balance of Terror and Errand of Mercy. Season 2, the only episodes I think are actively bad are Catspaw and The Omega Glory, but you get Amok Time, The Trouble with Tribbles, Journey to Babel, A Private Little War, and A Piece of the Action.
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Charity Porno posted:TOS is a giant pile of trash with a few gems shining through the heap 
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So is Sam Kirk ever going to get better or was he just an elaborate joke to troll people who said "Kirk already  ?"
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I enjoyed that a hell of a lot, and I think it might be my favourite so far. I love downtime episodes, and the fact that we’ve already gotten to know these characters so well that it felt earned only at ep 5 is great. What is the terrible secret of 
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You know what I want? A season non-finale. Just like TOS when any old episode capped out the season. Make episode 9 the big drama story, and have 10 be the Enterprise holiday party or whatever.
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Charity Porno posted:TOS is a giant pile of trash with a few gems shining through the heap Correct.
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HD DAD posted:You know what I want? A season non-finale. Just like TOS when any old episode capped out the season. Make episode 9 the big drama story, and have 10 be the Enterprise holiday party or whatever. This would very much fit SNW's general vibe and I would be most down for it. (edit or if it's an actual holiday party, get Joe Dante involved and make it Gremlins in space. All horror franchises need to do an "in space" episode it would work!!!) dr_rat fucked around with this message at 01:46 on Jun 3, 2022 |
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Chapel smacking Spock 
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You can see why a soul-sharing ritual could be utterly shattering to a relationship. Big stakes! The act 2 twist! Actually this was quite interesting Vulcan characterization. Clearly Spock and T'Pring are sensitive to micro-expressions and vocal tics and assume that everyone else is as sensitive as they are, and therefore they are worried that these will give them away. It's nice to see that Vulcans do actually have personality, they're just alien, so it's not apparent to a human who isn't familiar with Vulcans. Arglebargle III fucked around with this message at 01:56 on Jun 3, 2022 |
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For a minute there I thought Lt. Devner was a CGI de-aged Aaron Paul, turns out it was just a completely different person who sorta looks like him with a slightly less weird shaped head. Also at the end are we supposed to think Chapel has a thing for Ortega?
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pik_d posted:For a minute there I thought Lt. Devner was a CGI de-aged Aaron Paul, turns out it was just a completely different person who sorta looks like him with a slightly less weird shaped head. No, Spock. She was touched by his defending of her honor with the Vulcan criminal, as well as the kind way he thanked her for her help. Epicurius posted:Season 2, the only episodes I think are actively bad are Catspaw and The Omega Glory, but you get Amok Time, The Trouble with Tribbles, Journey to Babel, A Private Little War, and A Piece of the Action. The Omega Glory is legitimately one of the worst episodes of ANYTHING I've ever seen, much less Star Trek. If you ever need proof Roddenberry was a hack who lucked into his success, the fact he submitted it for an Emmy for the script is right there. Charity Porno fucked around with this message at 01:59 on Jun 3, 2022 |
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pik_d posted:Also at the end are we supposed to think Chapel has a thing for Ortega? Pretty sure she's thinking about Spock, but can't bring herself to say it.
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"Never get in the middle of a Vulcan relationship, they will hit you with a lir'pa." Facts!
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I must be hallucinating, that was the 5th good episode in a row. It was fun, looked good and it had multiple plots that made sense (in the context of Star Trek at least) Why is this show so competent compared to disco + picard? did they finally learn their lesson?
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I think it really is just because episodic Trek works better. I remember almost all of the Short Treks despite most of them being pretty forgettable. Couldn’t hardly tell you anything from Discovery past season 1 or Picard.
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Does anyone know if the SNW bridge is the same one as the Disco S2 version? I feel like it’s a slight redesign, but I can’t pinpoint why.
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HD DAD posted:Does anyone know if the SNW bridge is the same one as the Disco S2 version? I feel like it’s a slight redesign, but I can’t pinpoint why. They’ve kept bits like the helm and captain’s chair, but everything else seems to have been tightened up. There’s no exterior corridor wrapping around the bridge now, and it’s much more nicely lit.  
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 They love to shoot these sets in widescreen on anamorphic lenses and it's not hard to see why. Looks as good as any 70s moviefilm. In fact the lenses call attention to themselves on occasions like this one, where the director is just screaming "See! It looks just like a movie!"
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Charity Porno posted:The Omega Glory is legitimately one of the worst episodes of ANYTHING I've ever seen, much less Star Trek. If you ever need proof Roddenberry was a hack who lucked into his success, the fact he submitted it for an Emmy for the script is right there. it's bad. I still stand by my believe that TOS had some solid episodes, though.
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Just on a story level, this is another episode that is tied together by a strong moral theme: honesty in relationships is the best policy.
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Finally watched the episode and it’s good. I want M’Benga to wear the hat all the time, even when he’s not fishing. Especially when he’s not fishing.
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“I’m sorry Lieutenant, I could not save the baby.” *fish hooks jingle whimsically on his hat*
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Epicurius posted:it's bad. I still stand by my believe that TOS had some solid episodes, though. yeah, those are the gems shining through the trash pile, like I said!
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I was dying at Spock and T’Pring looking at their reflections and having that understated logical reaction.
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holefoods posted:I was dying at Spock and T’Pring looking at their reflections and having that understated logical reaction. This episode has some fantastic examples of one of my favorite underused Trek tropes: “one actor has to adopt the mannerisms of another actor because their characters body-swapped/were turned into children/became vessels of a literal soul somehow”.
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This was fun as hell. The whole La'an/Una subplot felt like it came from Lower Decks, which is really all I wanted from this show to begin with. Bonus points for showing a Bolian without dramatically altering the 90s makeup. Probably one of the better shore leave episodes in the franchise, not that there's a huge amount of them.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:This episode has some fantastic examples of one of my favorite underused Trek tropes: “one actor has to adopt the mannerisms of another actor because their characters body-swapped/were turned into children/became vessels of a literal soul somehow”. I like that trope in basically anything that does it. The Magicians and The Good Place have two of my favourite bodyswaps. That kind of ep is just good for actors to get to try and show off and also highlight the mannerisms and character/acting choices of characters you might not have noticed or thought consciously of before. They both did great, Spock's voice was softened in a way that I could hear T'pring speaking through him especially when in the big alien meeting when talking about wishing to be home more.
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I would say Farscape has the classic bodyswap episode, with practically everyone doing a great impression of the other actors.
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