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Amy Pole Her posted:Just say how you actually feel Leper there's a 50,000 character limit, I don't have room
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Leperflesh posted:there's a 50,000 character limit, I don't have room poo poo sucks yo.
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Leperflesh posted:What Biden actually proposed, in the four minutes of speech I could stand to watch, was: raise the minimum age to buy guns to 21, allow gun companies to be sued again, require gun owners to use trigger locks or they're responsible for deaths caused by their unsecured guns, and renew the assault weapon ban. He reiterated that the 2nd amendment isn't absolute, just like none of the rest of our rights are, and quoted a Scalia ruling saying so. I assume he made more proposals but he's such a bad public speaker I couldn't watch the rest. Man you are cranky today. None of the proposed changes you listed would stop shootings. As long as the humans can legally buy guns then whoops more shootings. The Uvalde shooter was 18 so if the age limit was 21 it would have been tougher to get guns but he either still would have gotten guns now or he would just do a shooting in three years. It would be better than nothing, I suppose. You are acting like a dumb lib though lol
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Leperflesh posted:What Biden actually proposed, in the four minutes of speech I could stand to watch, was: raise the minimum age to buy guns to 21, allow gun companies to be sued again, require gun owners to use trigger locks or they're responsible for deaths caused by their unsecured guns, and renew the assault weapon ban. He reiterated that the 2nd amendment isn't absolute, just like none of the rest of our rights are, and quoted a Scalia ruling saying so. I assume he made more proposals but he's such a bad public speaker I couldn't watch the rest. I actually want all of those things but have zero confidence it can be done because he's a dickless centrist with no actual control over even his own party's caucus. He may as well go up there and say he wants to ban all guns, confiscate them, melt them and pour the molten slurry into Wayne LaPierre's rear end in a top hat because it's just as likely.
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Dem strategy in recent years has been to run solely on impressive rhetoric and maybe, if we're lucky, sneak some actual policy through. Someone like Biden can say that he wants these things done but it's on him and the rest of the party to act. If they can't use their vast political power to enact popular policy, then they either need to willingly cede power to someone who can get it done or they will have that power taken from them by someone who may or may not care. E: or you acknowledge that the system is fundamentally broken, but doing so would be to question their own legitimacy as the people who watched it break, if not actively worked to break it. I want a toilet made out of solid gold, and I can make all the speeches I want about how awesome it would be if I had one, but I ain't getting my toilet until I put in the work to buy or smelt(?) one myself. C-Euro fucked around with this message at 17:51 on Jun 3, 2022 |
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I mean the Dems have been saying since they got elected that they can't pass anything through the senate, so why would anyone care about what sane, sensible policy they don't plan on trying to pass because of the senate?
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Braksgirl posted:I grew up in Kentucky and I miss the Appalachians sometimes. I don't miss the winters, but Louisiana scenery is so bleak and swampy compared to the green rolling hills of home. I know I've said this before but I am the opposite of you. I grew up in Northeast Louisiana and then moved to Louisville KY at the end of 2018. I love the scenery in KY and so happy I moved. But when my son graduates high school and figures out what he is doing, I want to do more traveling
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BigPaddy posted:Heading up to Flagstaff tomorrow for the weekend. I want something small in the Prescott/Sedona because it is great in the summer to be up in the mountains. My dad just moved to Prescott from El Segundo Ca, way he describes it sounds nice. I lived in the beach communities around LA my whole life but now I’m in the mountains around LA. Least there’s a lake up here if I wanna go for a swim.
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Biden is introducing a bunch of milquetoast stuff because he knows the right and Manchin (but I repeat myself) will shut it down and refuse to consider any form of gun control whatsoever and then they can fundraise and campaign off of how the right is refusing to even consider common sense reform and it will change zero minds
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Ornery and Hornery posted:Man you are cranky today. The goal isn't to propose legislation that would literally stop all shootings, because that requires taking all the guns and that's very obviously not going to happen. It's to do anything to cut back on the shootings. And the assault weapon ban would have prevented him from buying AR-15s, and the age limit would have prevented that shooting entirely. "It would be better than nothing" is the bar, because "nothing" is the status quo from which we have to drag the country, kicking and screaming. Let's get "better than nothing" done and then if that was actually possible, we can take the next step. All-or-nothing never works in politics, you just guarantee nothing. There's this idea that if someone is the enemy, what's important is the anger, not what they say or do, so nitpicking about what they said or did just means you're not being sufficiently ideologically pure and that might erode our righteous anger or some poo poo. I reject that. I think there's more than enough factual things to be angry about, if that's the goal, that we don't need to use misleading quote snippets to add fuel to the fire. If adding context to a stupid twitter quote that completely misrepresents what someone actually said makes me a dumb lib, than so be it.
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Ornery and Hornery posted:
This issue is definitely not a binary. Every additional hurdle to access the deadliest weapons will save lives. The idea that the 18 year old shooter absolutely would have committed the same crime 4 years later or if he had to use illegal markets to get the guns isn't supported by data. You are never going to "stop shootings", but you can do a hell of a lot to make them far far less frequent. But to Kalli's point, it does feel silly offering modest changes when even the most milquetoast regulations won't get through congress.
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Leperflesh posted:If adding context to a stupid twitter quote that completely misrepresents what someone actually said makes me a dumb lib, than so be it. I mean, I agree with you and I think they are good proposals in a vacuum but the anger everyone is experiencing is from the near-absolute certainty that nothing will fundamentally change. Which is literally how Joe Biden characterized his upcoming presidency before he was even sworn in so 
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LeeMajors posted:I mean, I agree with you and I think they are good proposals in a vacuum but the anger everyone is experiencing is from the near-absolute certainty that nothing will fundamentally change. On this issue, candidate Biden was totally willing to lie out his rear end about it: https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1322976702419636225
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The Puppy Bowl posted:The idea that the 18 year old shooter absolutely would have committed the same crime 4 years later or if he had to use illegal markets to get the guns isn't supported by data. What? Where is your data? The data does support the notion that people who get stuck in cycles of extremist feedback loops due to their alienation continue to trend towards extremist behavior and poor mental health.
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Kalli posted:On this issue, candidate Biden was totally willing to lie out his rear end about it: Of course. He also still owes me 600$. Dems can't even do the small, popular things to improve our lives--what the gently caress makes us think they are capable of radically transforming our rotten society?
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Jun 3, 2022 18:20
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The whole $2000, actually $1400, thing is so comically lib. Just pure concentrated lol.
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I have a friend that was genuinely mad Joe Brandon sent him a check. Lol
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Guze posted:I have a friend that was genuinely mad Joe Brandon sent him a check. Lol They're never mad enough to turn down the money though
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Jun 3, 2022 18:47
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Intruder posted:They're never mad enough to turn down the money though My parents love for me to ask them to turn away their SS checks and Medicare coverage when they start getting wound up about socialism. I EARNED THAT
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Jun 3, 2022 18:49
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Ornery and Hornery posted:What? Where is your data? https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/05/26/1101423558/how-can-mas-shootings-be-prevented-definitive-answers-are-hard-to-come-by Research seems to correlate the extreme act of a mass shooting with the similarly extreme act of suicide. Preventing suicide is all about preventing access to easy means of suicide. The British Coal Gas study being the most well known example of that research. If people have to clear additional hurdles, it's harder to make an impulsive decision simply because additional time and planning is required. With that time and planning often comes a reduction in rash behavior. Now we don't have great data on the science of mass shootings because we generally avoid researching shootings in general for political reasons. That said, I have never seen anything confirming your opinion that mass shooters are on aggregate going to commit these violent murders regardless of barriers or institutional structures, outside of preventing them from ever touching a gun under any circumstance.
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Jun 3, 2022 18:50
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LeeMajors posted:My parents love for me to ask them to turn away their SS checks and Medicare coverage when they start getting wound up about socialism. My dad and his wife a points in their lives have been wholly dependent on the social safety net - p much what it's there for. But boy howdy when we were still on speaking terms did they love to crow about socialism and laziness and entitlement.
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Neil Armbong posted:My dad and his wife a points in their lives have been wholly dependent on the social safety net - p much what it's there for. But boy howdy when we were still on speaking terms did they love to crow about socialism and laziness and entitlement. Safety net stuff when used by me or people I like: critical and important government functions Safety net stuff when used by people I don't know or don't like: enabling laziness and welfare queens Bonus points for complaining about the system being inadequate/painful/slow/difficult in situation 1 and still being upset about its existence in general. A giant piece of poo poo from an old job complained about being behind someone paying with EBT because it is a pain in the rear end system that takes forever to process at the checkout, but was even more upset at the idea of making it easier (e.g., a debit card instead of the archaic system of small checks that need individually endorsed).
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Ornery and Hornery posted:The whole $2000, actually $1400, thing is so comically lib. Just pure concentrated lol. I remember a goon in C-SPAM having an existential crisis when they realized that Trump gave them more money for COVID relief than Biden lol Dunno if that's true for the entire US population or just certain demographics. I always thought that one more round of checks from Donny would have made 2020 close enough that their coup might have worked.
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Hot Diggity! posted:
I'm guessing yes, I didn't see it happen but the garbage truck was trying to cross from one alley to the next, having to go around that manhole with the barriers around it. White car is either part of eastbound traffic, or else came out of the parking lot just below my window, turned left, and didn't realize that Flood Brother was also there. Semi-related, I was driving north on Ravenswood Ave just past the train station and I saw a car parked with one tire up on the curb. Got next to it and yep, it had been hit and run pretty hard at the front corner.
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Leperflesh posted:The goal isn't to propose legislation that would literally stop all shootings, because that requires taking all the guns and that's very obviously not going to happen. It's to do anything to cut back on the shootings. And the assault weapon ban would have prevented him from buying AR-15s, and the age limit would have prevented that shooting entirely. "It would be better than nothing" is the bar, because "nothing" is the status quo from which we have to drag the country, kicking and screaming. Let's get "better than nothing" done and then if that was actually possible, we can take the next step. All-or-nothing never works in politics, you just guarantee nothing. People are angry bc in spite of a bunch of children being murdered the best the most powerful person in the country can do is a speech about fairly milquetoast reforms in which he spends significant time trying to appease the very people who lobbied for and built a system in which children keep getting murdered. nothing says inspiring leadership like clearly being terrified of being too bold and to be clear, what's important is actually loving doing something. that's what's important and people are understandably tired of talk. oh and as much as libs love to whine and cry about how nothing can be done even when they hold all 3 branches, the only thing that matters is whenever the republicans hold even a single branch they hammer their priorities no matter what and typically get a few of them through. as dumb as libs think the general public is, that stark difference isn't lost on them. one party will actually do some amount of what they say and the other won't even try but will belittle your intelligence for daring to ask them why the world only ever gets worse even when they have power Relentlessboredomm fucked around with this message at 20:24 on Jun 3, 2022 |
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Leperflesh posted:What Biden actually proposed, in the four minutes of speech I could stand to watch, was: raise the minimum age to buy guns to 21, allow gun companies to be sued again, require gun owners to use trigger locks or they're responsible for deaths caused by their unsecured guns, and renew the assault weapon ban. He reiterated that the 2nd amendment isn't absolute, just like none of the rest of our rights are, and quoted a Scalia ruling saying so. I assume he made more proposals but he's such a bad public speaker I couldn't watch the rest. The problem is... Right Leaning Media/Social: shows snippets of Biden talking about banning assault weapons and how your 2A rights aren't absolute. Left Leaning Media/Social: shows snippets of Biden talking about not taking away guns. Mission... not accomplished. He should have just gone all in and left the rhetoric about "responsible gun owners" out because it does zero to appeal to gun owners or centrists and just pisses off his base. So like what's the point? Yeah, he's a bad communicator. Impossibly Perfect Sphere fucked around with this message at 20:51 on Jun 3, 2022 |
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Whew. Just whew: https://twitter.com/depression2019/status/1532644636392423425
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Grittybeard posted:Whew. Just whew: hahah goddamn that guy hahaha
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Her answer is the perfect answer, it requires follow up.
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C-Euro posted:I remember a goon in C-SPAM having an existential crisis when they realized that Trump gave them more money for COVID relief than Biden lol They both gave $0, OP.
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LeeMajors posted:he wants to ban all guns, confiscate them, melt them and pour the molten slurry into Wayne LaPierre's rear end in a top hat. If this is an option, I’m voting for it.
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:The problem is... Yeah I think that's a really good summary of why I'm so pissed about twitter lately. Quoting people out of context is as old as the hills, but the twitter culture is amping it way way up. It's gotta be incredibly challenging to write any speech in such a way that it can't have a clip cut out that appears to say something bad. Biden is a terrible communicator, so it's especially bad. All that said, I do think the "responsible gun owners" part actually does appeal to the sort of blue-dog democrats that vote for guys like Manchin instead of a republican. I think that speech was mostly for Joe Manchin, who is going to be one of the most important deciding factors of whether actual gun control laws get passed this year.
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Good god. I understand being so destroyed to not be clever on the spot, but the correct response would be "her sister"
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Its Rinaldo posted:Good god. It's actually "her mother" or "her best friend."
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Its Rinaldo posted:Good god.
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One of the funniest jokes Norm told in his final special is that he and his wife had hall passes. He chose Angelina Jolie and Christine Brinkley while his silly wife chose the gardener and his brother!
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