Mola Yam posted:

Mola Yam posted:

Tempora Mutantur posted:

alright I know it's a couple days late, but I'm posting bonus meltdown-mays so skip this poo poo if you don't wanna hear it:

this poo poo blew my mind since when I first read it I was like "yeah, yeah this all checks out" not realizing that this sack of poo poo was misrepresenting socialism as somehow incapable of enabling self-actualization when socialism is literally the only known social experiment that enables this for everyone as much as possible instead of only the rich/lucky. "you can't reach the top of the pyramid without the freedom of capitalism! da commies RESTRICT your ability to find your true self!" is such a perverse loving lie.

clearly the system that says you WILL be homeless if you can't find a job or a specific person or group willing to pay for you (who you have to find and convince on your own through ~whatever means necessary~) and has the widely-accepted purpose of "maximize profit even at the cost of human suffering" is way better at enabling the bullshit concept of "self-actualization" than that OTHER system

that filthy socialism. with its social contract that you get: a modest home to share with your family; actually-affordable necessities; a stated and shared goal to progress humanity through understanding how things physically work, sharing that knowledge, and doing our best with what we have available, all for the horrible cost of: working a job doing something that at least actually mattered, with people from your area, maybe even legitimate friends you've known for a long time since you've had a stable area to grow up in.

some horrible, meaningful job like cleaning, or cooking, or assembling something in a factory or learning a subject that mattered to you like math and actually applying it in civil engineering projects, maybe working with other architects and engineers planning a beautiful walkable city that enables streamlined logistical support to keep the area well-supplied from regional distribution centers.

like, look at this ugly piece of poo poo from the 1970s in Estonia, who would want to live there and be able to get around without a car:



ugh, and to take that kind of urban planning, combined with what we've learned about engineering, transportation, logistics, and generally everything else we've learned in the 50 years since that original layout was made? fuckin impossible. it's so good that capitalism strangled that poo poo in the cradle. shareholders of the automobile and oil industries are VERY important people, far more than you or I. they obviously know best, which we can all see is plainly obvious today, everywhere you look, even in nature itself. they're expert engineers who know how stuff works, I mean, Elon is going to get us to mars!!

god how could you want any of that commie bullshit, instead of reaching self-actualization under capitalism where you can be something like an insurance adjuster? you know, assigning made-up numbers about how much money someone gets to rebuild their life after a catastrophe, instead of giving them the actual necessities they just lost, because that would be the human dumbassed sucker-parasite-commie-bitch thing to do.

...so yeah, gently caress maslow. gorgeous attack meme though. takes a brief explanation of his buttplug-pyramid to get started, but really burrows into your brain because it reaches its false conclusion so intuitively. requires a whole shitload of effort to deprogram, too. plus, literally gets all the focus over other schools of thought through media reinforcement. super cool dude, hope to piss on his grave one day, right after Rand's.

luck is definitely OP (at best it can result in dropping out of a Capital vagina at start, at worst it somewhat mitigates falling out of the many Labor ones) but charisma is probably the biggest dump stat in the current meta for non-Evil characters. Empathy/Sympathy are dead ends for all classes vs someone who is willing and able to do something for others. yeah technically that can still be empathy under some circumstances, but you can still help people while being an unlikable rear end in a top hat, and being a really likeable but useless person is universally reviled no matter what people say (unless you're determined to commit to Liberal, but that's such a loving worthless background to stick with). similarly, the Looking Good perk that high CHA unlocks just doesn't carry the same level of impact as in previous metas; it definitely helps, but it's more of a win-more perk right now if you don't have other stats/perks to back it up.

INT is still super useful, like you don't need much and can still take the Marxist Thought perks, which will unlock the Parse Reality ability to establish your own immediate survival needs before you decide what class you want to commit to (Labor, Capital, or Labor-Traitor, since Capital-Traitor is prestige-only so you really gotta plan your playthrough if that's your goal, which INT helps with a ton)

somewhat to your point, you can definitely do low-int high-charisma playthroughs and make them work but they still rely heavily on luck since luck is so OP. med/high CHA, low/no INT, med to high luck is probably the #1 way to be a useless middle manager (or to be a bootlicker for other low-tier Capital players) but the constant passive psychic self-damage-over-time of those playstyles really hurt if your INT is anywhere near decent since its negative effects scale with how high your INT (this is if you don't have the Evil alignment which automatically thrives on any psychic damage you inflict or take; Evil is far and away the real OP alignment, it's loving insane the perks it grants if you just really commit and never ever try to regain Good alignment, since that's one of the many many hidden triggers for the dreaded Chronic PTSD debuff which i mean, has so many loving causes it's insane what these stupid loving devs were thinking, like no one is hardcore enough to want to deal with all this poo poo).

CHA is really useful for evil playthroughs (except of course Cop playthroughs since they carry such a high int and cha penalty in exchange for automatic and amplified Evil perks) but ultimately worthless for good playthroughs, counter-intuitive as that may seem. like really high CHA, with good alignment? you absolutely need insanely high luck to somehow dodge the Hampton effect if you aren't going to just give in and go full Atwater for the switch to Evil/Indifferent (same alignments, really).

it's all these undocumented stat/perk/alignment effects and the completely absent UI (lazy loving devs, amirite) that causes all these low/no int high-luck dipshits saying things like "voting can effect real change" because the UI doesn't tell them how they're actually Indifferent or Evil while they think they're actually Good. they don't understand how OP luck is, like lol yeah voting for Obama really helped Flint and Newark get the lead out of their water, yup. voting DEFINITELY helped get reparations back on the table after Johnson gutted everything once Lincoln was peacefully voted out of office, and voting in 2000 DEFINITELY helped prevent the iraq war later on, oh yeah. totally real things that happened and all prove how effective voting is, among countless other examples of voting totally working. like men totally voted to give women the right to vote! that's how it happened! just everyday dudes on the street voting.

loving idiot scrubs. just total noobs acting like they know poo poo about gently caress. it's kind of funny if it wasn't so sad but ah well, can't fault people for just wanting to play the game and not be beaten over the head with ~optimal plays~ no matter how easy it is to just spend a couple points and pick up the starting Manifesto perk of Marxist Thought. they all act like "that's too much to think about, just focus on harm reduction" but it's like, you loving idiots, the Marxist perks literally get more powerful the more players take even a single point in the tree. it is *THE* most OP perk tree in the game, literally amplifying your own perks in the tree every time someone else invests in the tree until a critical mass is reached and ALL your perks from every tree get a bonus from Freedom from Wage Slavery, a unique perk that requires the playerbase to collectively unlock.

whatever. it's like when you have pubs who don't understand how striking together can mean victory while doing nothing/acting separately causes a loss.

I guess I can't really talk, being high-luck labor myself and doing nothing but the daily mission grind to meet my family's survival upkeep rather than actually helping effect change beyond the most token efforts at gaining local rep, which is still pitifully low. rep grinds suck rear end but Local Networker and Known Quantity In Your Community perks are worth it imo even if I just chase them casually.

look, I've had some poo poo going on and these idiotic walls of text are super cathartic for me because yeah, someone called it, I like workshopping rants to cope with the very real, very rapid decline of *gestures everywhere* combined with the readily-available livestreaming/reporting of a lot of the worst of it. fuckin put me on ignore me if need be, or if this is somehow annoying enough for a probe then whatever I could probably use the break; just don't be a bad-faith piece of poo poo like Some Plague Rats about it. still irks me that they called me an anti-natalist for a post where I lament that we collectively shrug at our leaders abdicating their most basic responsibilities while reaping insane rewards for themselves at our collective expense, such as (by no means the only example) not holding the people accountable for running a company that literally infected babies with disease because it was cheaper than not, a thing that was very recently as in within the last six months of this writing in multiple media outlets before being memoryholed like every other daily atrocity, which I explicitly linked to in the loving thing they shat on, presumably because Some Plague Rats enjoys seeing babies infected with disease which just saying does match their username gently caress you if you're still lurking this thread, btw; alternatively, thank you if you really do local work as you described, that's actually really cool and insanely high effort on top of maintaining your own life and I can obviously understand being so distracted by RL poo poo that my point was lost in translation, especially since I struggle to employ the non-existent concept of irony/am unfortunately pretty loving dumb as you called out, you stupid gently caress

as for these posts, gently caress me I edited all that so fuckin much and it still ended up with so many run-on streams-of-consciousness because I didn't gut enough dumb tangents and committed to WAY too many stupid edgy sarcasm bits, plus I tried and failed to find some links for some other poo poo I wanted to weave in instead of paring it down; whatever, I clearly preach -ist thought

Mola Yam posted:

Mola Yam posted:

Harold Fjord posted:

Stop taking the mass extinction site down I love it so much.

Mola Yam posted:

Tempora Mutantur posted:

he moved it to https://massextinctionevent.org/

platzapS posted:

[ed: mass extinction website has a bad reputation in my church’s filter]

Tempora Mutantur posted:

he moved it to https://massextinctionevent.org/

Tempora Mutantur posted:

he moved it to https://massextinctionevent.org/

FFT posted:

what's that bit in the disruptors' playbook about "MORE MEETINGS" again?

OSS Simple Sabotage Manual, 1944 posted:

Organizations and Conferences

Insist on doing everything through "channels." Never permit short-cuts to be taken in order to expedite decisions.
Make "speeches." Talk as frequently as possible and at great length. Illustrate your "points" by long anecdotes and accounts of personal experiences.
When possible, refer all matters to committees, for "further study and consideration." Attempt to make the committee as large as possible — never less than five.
Bring up irrelevant issues as frequently as possible.
Haggle over precise wordings of communications, minutes, resolutions.
Refer back to matters decided upon at the last meeting and attempt to re-open the question of the advisability of that decision.
Advocate "caution." Be "reasonable" and urge your fellow-conferees to be "reasonable"and avoid haste which might result in embarrassments or difficulties later on.

Managers

In making work assignments, always sign out the unimportant jobs first. See that important jobs are assigned to inefficient workers.
Insist on perfect work in relatively unimportant products; send back for refinishing those which have the least flaw.
To lower morale and with it, production, be pleasant to inefficient workers; give them undeserved promotions.
Hold conferences when there is more critical work to be done.
Multiply the procedures and clearances involved in issuing instructions, pay checks, and so on. See that three people have to approve everything where one would do.

Employees

Work slowly.
Contrive as many interruptions to your work as you can.
Do your work poorly and blame it on bad tools, machinery, or equipment. Complain that these things are preventing you from doing your job right.
Never pass on your skill and experience to a new or less skillful worker.

FFT posted:

what's that bit in the disruptors' playbook about "MORE MEETINGS" again?

Confusedslight posted:

Been reading and watching the videos on that site and everything looks so bleak lol

quote:

While the dead bodies are fuelling talk about Las Vegas' mob past, water experts warn of even more worrisome consequences. If the lake keeps receding, it would reach what's known as "dead pool" - a level so low the Hoover Dam would no longer be able to produce hydropower or deliver water downstream.
...
Farmers are already feeling the pain. About 75% of the water from Lake Mead goes to agriculture.

Over a third of America's vegetables and two-thirds of its fruits and nuts are grown in California. But tens of thousands of acres lie idle because farmers can't get enough water to grow crops.

The impact may be seen on grocery store shelves next year, Bill Diedrich, a Californian farmer, told BBC. This season's produce shows up at shops next season, he explained as he showed his bone-dry fallowed fields. Typically, he would plant tomatoes for canning on this field but he didn't have enough water.
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But the dead bodies haven't been all bad for business. New beaches have emerged and Scuba divers are flocking to the lake to search for more bodies, said Chad Taylor, who is in charge of sales and marketing for the marina.

"I'm a lake half full kind of guy," he said. "We're still open for business".

mawarannahr posted:

Biosfear Collapse: I’m a lake half full kinda guy

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

Biosphere Collapse: But the dead bodies haven't been all bad for business.

mawarannahr posted:

Biosfear Collapse: I’m a lake half full kinda guy

quote:

BiosFear [2004, canceled] is a free-to-play sci fi MMORPG that puts players into what remains of the human race after leaving the old, resource-depleted Earth behind and finding New Earth. When the mission to New Earth was ready, 500,000 people were selected to travel on the Salvation Spaceship, leaving behind the sorry polluted shell of the original Earth.

During the seven-year long space journey to New Earth, 330,000 people perished. When the last 170,000 survivors landed on New Earth, a dangerous menace was waiting for them. Three hostile races living on New Earth were waging a war. The human survivors had to face the Bulkan, Kailipton and Aidia race in ferocious battles. Diplomacy was not an option.

FEATURES

Magnificent and enormous world | An expansive continent that can support over 10 million players with a gorgeous and varied environment.
Item production and trading | Players can produce specific items with a variety of materials, and sell and buy items. Price of items will change according to demand and in-game economy.
Guild & Communities | Organize massive guilds to ally or declare war against other guilds or make small parties to explore the world.
Smooth Gameplay | The game characters' motions are very fluid. Dynamic attacking motions and sound effects, simple and intuitive interface.
Grow Pets | Grow special monsters and kit them up accordingly!

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

Biosphere Collapse: But the dead bodies haven't been all bad for business.

mawarannahr posted:

Biosfear Collapse: I’m a lake half full kinda guy

mawarannahr posted:

drat that game would have owned

WaryWarren posted:

I saw a photo of people at "the beach" on lake mead during memorial day weekend. loving disgusting lol. mmm, rotting corpses and mud flats.

Mayor Dave posted:

Stevie Lee posted:

lol

ELTON JOHN posted:

FistEnergy posted:

FFT posted:

skooma512 posted:

mawarannahr posted:

drat that game would have owned

Pobrecito posted:

https://twitter.com/politico/status/1532119428934078465