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I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

I hope he becomes the new Bruce Willis, but with a steeper onset of symptoms.

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MrUnderbridge
Jun 25, 2011

How about the new David Carradine?










Too soon?

Remulak
Jun 8, 2001
I can't count to four.
Yams Fan

I AM GRANDO posted:

I hope he becomes the new Bruce Willis, but with a steeper onset of symptoms.

The return of Bruce? Oh.

Zipperelli.
Apr 3, 2011



Nap Ghost

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

I'm curious about this demonstration though cuz like, I've seen deer hit by .308 which would be civilian AR-15 common caliber and it doesn't turn things into unrecognizeable mulch, even being oversized for deer according to some. DNA testing is normal on crime scene victims. I mention this because it feels like typical liberal response where we freak out and then nothing is done. On top of being really unconvincing to anyone that is familiar with guns.

Deer and humans are VASTLY different when it comes to body composition. Trying to extrapolate what will happen to a human based on what happens to an animal is ridiculous.

If you shoot a human in the head with a 5.56 round, you're gonna need fingerprint testing at a bare minimum to ID that person. Humans, especially children are nothing but bags of flesh. Bullets gently caress us up far worse than they gently caress up animals.

Zipperelli. fucked around with this message at 14:42 on Jun 2, 2022

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.
I subjected myself to some radio today. SOme guy named Christ Plante who's new to me. Some takeaways:

- Buffalo shooter Payton Gendron was a far left communists eco terrorist and the media won't tell us that because of course. No clue about the source or accuracy of that.

- Madonna's adopted African American child of 16 years apparently wore one of her iconic dresses to a boxing match (so?). This is indicative of...something...and it ties into what the Democrats are turning the country into. It was a weird rant and I'm not sure why anyone would give a poo poo about it.

- Apparently, tent cities, the mentally ill and the homeless population only started in the last year and a half. Listening to this RWM guy giving a rat's rear end about homelessness and mental illness sure was a take though and Plante is very sad and concerned that they can't get any help and are just tossed out on the street to fend for themselves. I mean he's right but hearing it come from a Republican was a bit much to take. Wasn't it a Reagan initiative to drastically cut mental health funding way back in the 80's and pretty much bog standard GOP policy to block help for these lazy motherfuckers? Sounded to me like he wanted more social programs and funding for this sort of thing.

- The amount of times these people interject buzzwords is impressive. Socialist, communist, eco terrorist, radical, etc. get worked in a LOT.

- Something something about Biden halting offshore drilling, fracking and drilling in national parks = our record high gas prices and "supply chain issues" is just the go to "framing" (I forget what he called it but it amounted to "excuse"). Aren't US oil drilling totals about as high as they've ever been...? Yep!

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=MCRFPUS2&f=M

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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The Madonna thing is because her son wore a dress

Gotta do the anti-trans thing even though as far as I know he’s not trans

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

FlamingLiberal posted:

The Madonna thing is because her son wore a dress

Gotta do the anti-trans thing even though as far as I know he’s not trans

Yeah, I wrote that. My point is "who gives a gently caress" and how is that indicative of some kind of political problem? Who did it harm and who had their lives negatively effected by it? Curt Cobain, David Bowie, The New York Dolls and (I think) The Sex Pistols did all that 40 years ago. Gorgeous George did it before any of us were born. Elton John. Annie Lennox went the other way and wore a business suit with a painted on mustache. Prince wore thigh boots and bikini underwear.

Who loving cares?

This Plante dude was acting it was some new thing that's Really Bad and where The World is heading under Biden like we're supposed to a give a poo poo.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

Your Gay Uncle posted:

I wonder if this is their plan for Johnny Depp. Even though he won the case I doubt any major studio or production will touch him with a 100 foot pole. Then the daily wire people show up and say " we stood by you when the mainstream media said you were a wife beater, be in our 50000 dollar movie with 3 retired ufc fighters that will play on our website."
There's no way they'll ever get any as big as Depp any other way. Maybe they're hoping he becomes the new John Voight or even dare I say James Woods.

Now that Johnny Depp has been acquitted in the court of public opinion, he can now finally begin the long journey towards overcoming the fact that he's a self-destrucive alcoholic drug abuser with sever psychological issues who was black listed by Hollywood years before his ex-wife's allegations against him for repeatedly showing up to movie sets intoxicated, late, and completely unprepared for what was being filmed on any given day and people just collectively decided to no longer hire him.

I would like to wish him an extremely non-committal statement of sentiment on his vast and lengthy road to recovery.

nine-gear crow fucked around with this message at 17:27 on Jun 2, 2022

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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BiggerBoat posted:

Yeah, I wrote that. My point is "who gives a gently caress" and how is that indicative of some kind of political problem? Who did it harm and who had their lives negatively effected by it? Curt Cobain, David Bowie, The New York Dolls and (I think) The Sex Pistols did all that 40 years ago. Gorgeous George did it before any of us were born. Elton John. Annie Lennox went the other way and wore a business suit with a painted on mustache. Prince wore thigh boots and bikini underwear.

Who loving cares?

This Plante dude was acting it was some new thing that's Really Bad and where The World is heading under Biden like we're supposed to a give a poo poo.
Any time some celebrity dresses as another gender these people flip out now

Xakura
Jan 10, 2019

A safety-conscious little mouse!

nine-gear crow posted:

Now that Johnny Depp has been acquitted in the court of public opinion, he can now finally begin the long journey towards overcoming the fact that he's a self-destrucive alcoholic drug abuser with sever psychological issues who was black listed by Hollywood years before his ex-wife's allegations against him for repeatedly showing up to movie sets intoxicated, late, and completely unprepared for what was being filmed on any given day and people just collectively decided to no longer hire him.

I would like to wish him an extremely non-committal statement of sentiment on his vast and lengthy road to recovery.

I'm sure you're right, but he had roles in pirates and harry potter that got dropped due to abuse allegations, (which is part of his damages claim?)

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

Xakura posted:

I'm sure you're right, but he had roles in pirates and harry potter that got dropped due to abuse allegations, (which is part of his damages claim?)

Yeah, those two zombie franchises where basically all he had left in terms of income sources because all his other prospects had dried up before that due to his non-allegation-related prior behavior.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

MrUnderbridge posted:

How about the new David Carradine?










Too soon?

His whole problem was not being soon enough, so no.

Xakura
Jan 10, 2019

A safety-conscious little mouse!

nine-gear crow posted:

Yeah, those two zombie franchises where basically all he had left in terms of income sources because all his other prospects had dried up before that due to his non-allegation-related prior behavior.

Last pirates movie grossed 800 mill, and crimes of grindelwald did 650. I feel like you're overstating the decline a bit.

je1 healthcare
Sep 29, 2015

BiggerBoat posted:

I subjected myself to some radio today. SOme guy named Christ Plante who's new to me. Some takeaways:

- Buffalo shooter Payton Gendron was a far left communists eco terrorist and the media won't tell us that because of course. No clue about the source or accuracy of that.

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=MCRFPUS2&f=M

In his manifesto the Buffalo shooter stated that he identified as a communist from the age of 12-15, but "drifted to the right" from then on (so starting in about 2019). Other than that he claimed to be a white supremacist but also a "far left" fascist. I don't know to what degree anyone outside of right-wing outlets reported on it, but if you're wondering why these types of incidents don't cause republicans to do any self-reflection, there's your answer. See, he's not one of us!

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin

je1 healthcare posted:

In his manifesto the Buffalo shooter stated that he identified as a communist from the age of 12-15, but "drifted to the right" from then on (so starting in about 2019). Other than that he claimed to be a white supremacist but also a "far left" fascist. I don't know to what degree anyone outside of right-wing outlets reported on it, but if you're wondering why these types of incidents don't cause republicans to do any self-reflection, there's your answer. See, he's not one of us!

The buffalo shooter's manifesto also has pictures of Sam Hyde in it, and is full of 4 chan bullshit. Nothing in it can be taken at face value because it's designed to make people run in circles trying to figure it out. It's a perfect example of that Sartre anti-Semitism quote.


quote:

Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

je1 healthcare posted:

In his manifesto the Buffalo shooter stated that he identified as a communist from the age of 12-15, but "drifted to the right" from then on (so starting in about 2019). Other than that he claimed to be a white supremacist but also a "far left" fascist. I don't know to what degree anyone outside of right-wing outlets reported on it, but if you're wondering why these types of incidents don't cause republicans to do any self-reflection, there's your answer. See, he's not one of us!

Oh, so they're lying then and he only became a violent psycho as he "drifted right". Hard to imagine a RW talk radio host misrepresenting the facts like that. Go figure. Any word on what music he listened to or what games he liked?

FlamingLiberal posted:

Any time some celebrity dresses as another gender these people flip out now

Kid's barely a celebrity. He's the son of a celebrity that hardly anyone even cares about anymore who did that in tribute to his mom. Also, what do you mean "now"? I remember these cranks freaking out about Dennis Rodman and his wedding dress and I think Mike Ditka and Ricky Williams did something similar on the cover of SI. E: They did. That was like 25 or 30 years ago.

Getting upset about something this stupid and pointing to it as a cultural or political problem in 2022 that needs to be covered is like getting bent out of shape about the Beatles having long hair, Captina Kirk kissing a black woman or Elvis swinging his hips on Ed Sullivan.

A male wore a dress!!! The HORROR! America is DYING!!!

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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Well we’re in this huge anti-trans panic on the right, which wasn’t even close to this bad a year ago

Meanwhile on Fox they had some big discussion earlier about San Francisco proposing to house homeless trans people and the host just proceeded to call this ‘wokism’ and complain that they weren’t going to house the homeless children instead

je1 healthcare
Sep 29, 2015

Dr. Arbitrary posted:

The buffalo shooter's manifesto also has pictures of Sam Hyde in it, and is full of 4 chan bullshit. Nothing in it can be taken at face value because it's designed to make people run in circles trying to figure it out. It's a perfect example of that Sartre anti-Semitism quote.

*I* know that, right-wing viewers don't, and right-wing pundits don't care, the shooter's written enough nonsense to feed any sort of narrative over which group caused him to shoot 13 people. Which is the point of a manifesto, he goes into detail listing the white nationalist websites and political ideologies, and openly credits them as the reason why he did it. He explicitly states that he wasn't born racist or right-wing, but it was other people that made him that way. He doesn't care that it will likely result in a crackdown on those websites, or even more opposition to white nationalism, the point of blaming others is to absolve himself of his own guilt. A manifesto isn't a random snapshot of inner-thoughts, it's what he wants the channers and the media to see, and as a result they're largely now referring to him as a sane child who was brainwashed by hate sites. The topics of mental illness, inceldom, childhood abuse, schoolyard bullying, substance abuse are going largely undiscussed in his case because the shooter got to choose his own identity. It's always about identity.

He decided long ago that he was going to throw away his future and murder people, it was just a matter of finding an excuse and and an identity to appropriate in the process.

In 2007, Virginia Tech shooter Cho Seung-Hu sent a video manifesto to CNN prior to shooting 30 people. They contained photos of himself decked out in a vest and backwards baseball cap, putting a knife to his neck, gun to his temple, hammer held up in two hands. Again, not random snapshots of his mediocre life, but staged photos of him imitating someone else. Past school shooters, fictional badasses from movies, whichever. Manifestos are their chance to try and convince the world of who they aren't

BiggerBoat posted:

Oh, so they're lying then and he only became a violent psycho as he "drifted right". Hard to imagine a RW talk radio host misrepresenting the facts like that. Go figure. Any word on what music he listened to or what games he liked?

Actually,

https://archive.ph/bUZfB

The two things that standout is that he had an insane amount of hours sunk into these games by a young age, and 2 of the 3 games he gave positive reviews to forced you to play as black/brown people.

je1 healthcare fucked around with this message at 22:24 on Jun 2, 2022

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.
Quite long but a real pro click right here.

One thing that struck me and that I don't think about much is how much aversion you average conservative has for the media while claiming to be true genuine american patriots when the very first amendment drawn up by the founding fathers they worship specifically addresses and establishes the right of a free press. But they'd rather listen to what are bascially used car commercials instead of honest reporting.

If I get time, I'll post some choice quotes from the story but everyone who likes this thread should read it.

https://prospect.org/politics/rncs-ground-game-of-inches-convert-minorities-into-republicans/

je1 healthcare posted:

*I* know that, right-wing viewers don't, and right-wing pundits don't care, the shooter's written enough nonsense to feed any sort of narrative over which group caused him to shoot 13 people. Which is the point of a manifesto, he goes into detail listing the white nationalist websites and political ideologies, and openly credits them as the reason why he did it. He explicitly states that he wasn't born racist or right-wing, but it was other people that made him that way.

He decided long ago that he was going to throw away his future and murder people, it was just a matter of finding an excuse and and an identity to appropriate in the process.



Weird. That's not what Chris Plante told me on the radio today. I heard he was a communist and the media won't report on it

BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 23:25 on Jun 2, 2022

Space Robot
Sep 3, 2011

Glenn Beck was with some other woman I didn’t recognize on his radio show today doing some weird bible to modern day comparison. They first started off by saying that even if you aren’t Christian, you can still see the Bible as a good book of morals and parables.

He then mentioned Sodom and Gomorra, and how the sexual revolution is similar to how the crowd of people demanded that they get to rape the angels. He specifically told the story using the words “have sex with them” instead of “to know them”, which I thought was interesting. He said that Lot offering up his virgin daughters to be gang raped was “a compromise”.

He then mentioned another similar biblical story that I don’t entirely remember, except in this story the good guy offered up both his daughter and his sex slave.

I’m not sure what the hell he was trying to portray with this.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

Space Robot posted:

Glenn Beck was with some other woman I didn’t recognize on his radio show today doing some weird bible to modern day comparison. They first started off by saying that even if you aren’t Christian, you can still see the Bible as a good book of morals and parables.

He then mentioned Sodom and Gomorra, and how the sexual revolution is similar to how the crowd of people demanded that they get to rape the angels. He specifically told the story using the words “have sex with them” instead of “to know them”, which I thought was interesting. He said that Lot offering up his virgin daughters to be gang raped was “a compromise”.

He then mentioned another similar biblical story that I don’t entirely remember, except in this story the good guy offered up both his daughter and his sex slave.

I’m not sure what the hell he was trying to portray with this.

More projection I assume.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013
Glenn Beck has been ranting incoherently with hard to follow homebrew Biblical theories and interpretations since like 2007. This poo poo ain't new by any margin.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

nine-gear crow posted:

Glenn Beck has been ranting incoherently with hard to follow homebrew Biblical theories and interpretations since like 2007. This poo poo ain't new by any margin.

Is there still a chalkboard?

Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story
There is though I think it may have become a whiteboard, but he definitely uses it as a talking point when he's shilling his shows on BlazeTV.

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

Twelve by Pies posted:

There is though I think it may have become a whiteboard, but he definitely uses it as a talking point when he's shilling his shows on BlazeTV.

Guess the chalk dust wasn't doing it for him so he needs to huff the marker fumes

Vahakyla
May 3, 2013

Zipperelli. posted:

Deer and humans are VASTLY different when it comes to body composition. Trying to extrapolate what will happen to a human based on what happens to an animal is ridiculous.

If you shoot a human in the head with a 5.56 round, you're gonna need fingerprint testing at a bare minimum to ID that person. Humans, especially children are nothing but bags of flesh. Bullets gently caress us up far worse than they gently caress up animals.

I have seen a fair deal of humans shot with 5.56. Some in the head.

They’re all recognizable despite the head injury. Don’t spread weird urban lores.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.
Well because, you see, without the chalkboard or the white board, it might sound like ravings of a mad lunatic and none of it would make any loving sense. You gotta put SOROS at the top, circle it, then branch downwards to HILLARY and OBAMA, go sideways to MARX on one side and HITLER on the other like the FBI piecing together a drug dealing gang or the mafia, then it'll all begin to make sense.

Otherwise it's just gibberish.

SamDabbers
May 26, 2003



Vahakyla posted:

I have seen a fair deal of humans shot with 5.56. Some in the head.

They’re all recognizable despite the head injury. Don’t spread weird urban lores.

I'm sorry. That had to suck :(

BIG FLUFFY DOG
Feb 16, 2011

On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog.


Space Robot posted:

Glenn Beck was with some other woman I didn’t recognize on his radio show today doing some weird bible to modern day comparison. They first started off by saying that even if you aren’t Christian, you can still see the Bible as a good book of morals and parables.

He then mentioned Sodom and Gomorra, and how the sexual revolution is similar to how the crowd of people demanded that they get to rape the angels. He specifically told the story using the words “have sex with them” instead of “to know them”, which I thought was interesting. He said that Lot offering up his virgin daughters to be gang raped was “a compromise”.

He then mentioned another similar biblical story that I don’t entirely remember, except in this story the good guy offered up both his daughter and his sex slave.

I’m not sure what the hell he was trying to portray with this.

The second one was probably from judges which is a loving insane one because the sex slave dies during the gang rape and he then chops his sex slaves body up into tiny pieces and couriers one to each of the other 11 tribes of Israel who are horrified and agree to just loving genocide the 12th one that committed the gang rape then they stop at the last minute and decide genocide is too harsh but they had already killed most of the men and all of the women so they abduct some nomads who had nothing to do with anything traveling through as wives for the survivors. L

BIG FLUFFY DOG fucked around with this message at 23:44 on Jun 3, 2022

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.
^^^WE might want to see about banning that book where he read that poo poo from schools, whatever it's called, because it sounds a little intense for children. I'd hate for an impressionable young lad to stumble upon it in the library.

Vahakyla posted:

I have seen a fair deal of humans shot with 5.56. Some in the head.

They’re all recognizable despite the head injury. Don’t spread weird urban lores.

God drat, dude.

We're you in the military, a cop or...?

I mean if you don't mind me asking

BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 23:59 on Jun 3, 2022

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

BiggerBoat posted:

Well because, you see, without the chalkboard or the white board, it might sound like ravings of a mad lunatic and none of it would make any loving sense. You gotta put SOROS at the top, circle it, then branch downwards to HILLARY and OBAMA, go sideways to MARX on one side and HITLER on the other like the FBI piecing together a drug dealing gang or the mafia, then it'll all begin to make sense.

Otherwise it's just gibberish.

OLIGARHY

tracecomplete
Feb 26, 2017


oligarheeeeeeey girl

Vahakyla
May 3, 2013

BiggerBoat posted:


God drat, dude.

We're you in the military, a cop or...?

I mean if you don't mind me asking


I’ve been a Firefighter in the gaping maws of a few American metropolises so I got hefty amount of gunshot viewings in. As an Army Combat Medic, though I never saw direct combat myself, got to treat humans in hospitals that dealt with the externalities of conflict.

I’m not some scientific source on differences of human bodies versus white tail deer anatomy and physiology or wound mechanisms, but the quoted post was pretty ”fifty cal will take legs away even when grazing!”

5.55 is like any other rifle round. It has no magical qualities or mythical properties. It tears flesh, and probably kicks a part of the skull away at exit side or whatever but it certainly doesn’t disfigure humans anymore than deer. And deer get routinely shot with jacketed hollow point 30-06 which will leave much more of a party in its wake that FMJ 5.56 that these bozos shoot at humans with.

It’s silly to perpetuate urban legends.

Vahakyla fucked around with this message at 03:28 on Jun 4, 2022

DeadlyMuffin
Jul 3, 2007

Vahakyla posted:

It’s silly to perpetuate urban legends.

My sister's drug dealer's mother-in-law saw a sewer alligator and I will not be silenced!

ErIog
Jul 11, 2001

:nsacloud:
lol, Mark Levin had on a right wing Parkland parent, and they had to dump 10 seconds of his audio because he started to spout off about how "They're hiring gays at these schools..." Then Mark had to come back in and go, "I don't think that's really the problem... I mean.."

His solution, by the way, is more police in schools and extending the carceral state to anyone seeking mental healthcare.

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

We should give all the gay staff members guns.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:

We should give all the gay staff members guns.

"Teachers are disgusting pedophile monsters who are molesting your kids until they turn them trans and getting them woke... so we need to make sure we give them all hand guns and assault rifles to protect your children from mass shooters."

:psyduck:

Screaming Idiot
Nov 26, 2007

JUST POSTING WHILE JERKIN' MY GHERKIN SITTIN' IN A PERKINS!

BEATS SELLING MERKINS.

nine-gear crow posted:

"Teachers are disgusting pedophile monsters who are molesting your kids until they turn them trans and getting them woke... so we need to make sure we give them all hand guns and assault rifles to protect your children from mass shooters."

:psyduck:

Uh, it solves both problems at once. You have these ivory tower homosexuals intellectuals shooting and getting shot by SOROS-FUNDED FALSE FLAG LONE WOLVES instead of our precious childwives. Also, if a teacher refuses to pick up the America Totem to protect our children, they're obviously a a disgusting pedophile.

Buckwheat Sings
Feb 9, 2005

nine-gear crow posted:

"Teachers are disgusting pedophile monsters who are molesting your kids until they turn them trans and getting them woke... so we need to make sure we give them all hand guns and assault rifles to protect your children from mass shooters."

:psyduck:

The idea is that guns make you pure. Like the whole mindset of pro gun and all that. It's like joining a church, you'll be expected to change.

I know it doesn't make sense.

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BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.
I always want someone to ask the RWM pundits how, if Biden and Democrats are solely to blame for inflation, shortages and skyrocketing housing and gas prices, then why is the exact same poo poo happening all over the globe? And in many countries, actually far worse.

Does Biden control the planet or is that still Soros' department?

When I overhear someone blaming it specifically and solely on Biden, sometimes I want to chime in that it's happening world wide and see what the response would be.

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