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i don’t give a gently caress it’s been like 4 years shut the gently caress up
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TLJ is the most pretentious film I’ve ever seen. It’s a bad movie that pretends to be smart. Also TFA sucked the big one and it was funny as hell when this film just completely crashed what little story they were setting up in this “trilogy”
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Jun 5, 2022 02:47
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Noob Saibot posted:TLJ is the most pretentious film I’ve ever seen. Have you ever seen a movie without lasers in it because man
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Viller posted:Its just Disney garbage written by retards who hate white men. Nodoze posted:At the end of the whole thing we are left with: Assepoester fucked around with this message at 10:37 on Jun 5, 2022 |
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Jun 5, 2022 10:29
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Luke already had a whole 'making rash decisions based on a hazy force vision of the future leads to bad consequences' thing in ESB, part of the maturing of his character for RotJ is that he should be implicity beyond that now.
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Jun 5, 2022 10:44
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No! No character development, only the same story over and over! That's why Han's a smugger again too, and why Finn's arc in TLJ is just his arc from TFA again!
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Jun 5, 2022 10:56
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LOL @ pretending it's clever social commentary or that it doesn't need an in-universe explanation rather than it just being an excuse to use the same designs to sell toys.
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Jun 5, 2022 11:16
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Alchenar posted:Luke already had a whole 'making rash decisions based on a hazy force vision of the future leads to bad consequences' thing in ESB, part of the maturing of his character for RotJ is that he should be implicity beyond that now. do you think experiencing trauma is like levelling up in a video game?
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Jun 5, 2022 11:51
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When I first watched TLJ I didn't thought it was trying to be smart at all, and also frankly I barely noticed the politics of it I though it was a very confusing movie with some cool action scenes but also some very dumb conflicts (the whole Holdo drama) and I didn't like that they wasted Finn character and that they liked the loving big bad guy without ever explaining what the hell he was or where he came from in a satisfying manner
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Jun 5, 2022 12:22
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Spermando posted:LOL @ pretending it's clever social commentary or that it doesn't need an in-universe explanation rather than it just being an excuse to use the same designs to sell toys.
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Jun 5, 2022 12:40
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This would work a lot better if the movie didn't end with the same kind of naive optimism. "We have everything we need," gently caress off Leia.
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Jun 5, 2022 12:49
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The point is that none of that is addressed in any of the films, textually or subtextually (and your tweet uses a character from a story that was written after the one with the fascists suddenly being powerful again). You never hear why the First Order came back to power--it's not because of racism or financial crises (and if you use Canto Bight as a reference for this, then that means every single important character in the series is a tool with hollow beliefs, which, why even bother telling the story then). They're just back because they have big ships and a powerful wizard backing them. And the established government is completely offscreen and we have no idea what kind of system they had. TLJ kills off Space Hitler before explaining how he rose to power, so now I find it hilarious that the movie that cuts in half the idea of explaining how fascists rose to power and reduces the conflict to a toxic relationship between two teenagers is somehow a good political allegory.
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No Mods No Masters posted:Luke is a bit of a psycho in rotj during the jabba episode, especially choking jabba's pig guy guards to apparent death for no real reason. Maybe that's a bit of a reach but I think some people take it as a retroactive sign he was slipping. I liked that though because it's Return of the Jedi - He does Yoda's big trick (lifting Jabba's Big Door like Yoda does with the X-Wing), Vader's big trick (choking fools out), and Kenobi's big trick (manipulating Bib Fortuna's mind) all in like 30 seconds. And they have him wearing all black like Vader so it does make you wonder where his character is going to go and what went down between ESB and ROTJ from the outset which is cool.
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Grendels Dad posted:This would work a lot better if the movie didn't end with the same kind of naive optimism. "We have everything we need," gently caress off Leia. That reminds me do they even actually stop or do anything against the First Order by the time RoS wraps up? Palpatine's death star destroyers or whatever was a totally separate thing right?
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Jun 5, 2022 15:33
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Luke force lifts the door? I don't remember that.
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Jun 5, 2022 16:04
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Make Cris Angel a sith
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Vintersorg posted:Luke force lifts the door? I don't remember that. The doorknob is a droid Luke wouldn't be able to mind trick, and an assole on top of that even to people who are subservient. Hard to believe it would open the door for Luke. Bit it's not obvious, you kinda have to infer it.
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Grendels Dad posted:The doorknob is a droid Luke wouldn't be able to mind trick, and an assole on top of that even to people who are subservient. Hard to believe it would open the door for Luke. I mean the way it's shot and the dialogue, this is absolutely not someone who rang the doorbell and was let in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mQooagqkWU Neo Rasa fucked around with this message at 17:13 on Jun 5, 2022 |
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Jun 5, 2022 17:10
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Hello I am here to say the best Star Wars is like ESB, TLJ, Rogue One, Mandalorian, Clone Wars Animated, that N64 game and some EU poo poo that I heard about when reading wikis. Thank you.
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Jun 5, 2022 18:09
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The best Star Wars is the one where they go back in time to save the whales
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Jun 5, 2022 18:12
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Neo Rasa posted:I mean the way it's shot and the dialogue, this is absolutely not someone who rang the doorbell and was let in: Huh, it never clicked on me that he was actually choking the guards, I always thought he was just using the mind trick on them to make them stand down, I never noticed that the one in the left actually reached for his throat like the officers Vader chokes.
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Jun 5, 2022 18:35
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STAR WARS FILMS A New Hope Empire Strikes Back Revenge of the Sith Return of the Jedi Rogue One Last Jedi Solo Attack of the Clones Phantom Menace Force Awakens Rise of Skywalker
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Neo Rasa posted:STAR WARS FILMS I can’t believe this. gently caress u for forgetting the thread’s beloved ewok adventures films
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Neo Rasa posted:STAR WARS FILMS You are missing Clone Wars, both Tartakovsky and Filoni's versions.
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Jun 5, 2022 19:39
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We doin' lists again? RotS/ESB Mando ANH/ROTJ TCW/CW Rebels BB TotJ Droids/Ewoks TPM/AotC Kenobi RO Solo/Resistance BoBF TFA TLJ ROS
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Neo Rasa posted:STAR WARS FILMS Solo is the last that I’d rewatch (the only one I haven’t rewatched, iirc). It may not be the worst of the bunch, but it’s the only one without any merit whatsoever. There’s no scene or shot in it where I go “well at least it had this bit.” Even Rise of Skywalker has a few nice shots. Solo is just muddy and boring from tip to tail.
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General Dog posted:Solo is the last that I’d rewatch (the only one I haven’t rewatched, iirc). It may not be the worst of the bunch, but it’s the only one without any merit whatsoever. There’s no scene or shot in it where I go “well at least it had this bit.” I haven't even finished Solo, in fact I tapped out quite early. It's the only Star Wars movie I haven't seen in full, I even sat through loving Rise of. That said, the scene where Han Meets Chewie is kind of nice. It's just... everything about the movie feels like such a waste.
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ESB ANH Revenge of the Sith Return of the Jedi TPM AOTC Rogue One TFA Solo tie last jedi/rise of skywalker both are poo poo I have not seen Solo since I saw it the first time and I can't remember if it's just boring or outright bad but I do know it isn't worse than TLJ or ROS. I don't remember it being better than TFA but I have zero desire to watch it again to find out, so it probably is fine where it is since I don't want to ever watch the TLJ or RoS again either
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I have also only seen Solo once but I remember thinking "that wasn't as bad as I expected" but I think that's because most of the main actors are doing their best and there's still small traces of the actually funny movie Lord & Miller wanted to make here and there Rogue One also cratered my expectations so that also helped
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Solo is helped by having a stellar cast in a poorly written movie imo. I enjoy it when I rewatch it even if I'd completely rewrite chunks of it.
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Jun 5, 2022 22:18
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My ranking: Star Wars 2 Super Star Wars Shin Star Wars Star Wars The Star Wars Star Wars (2014) Star Wars: Revelations Rise of Skywalker
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Star Wars Star Wars Z Star Wars ZZ Star Wars Victory Star Wars: Vader's Counterattack Star Wars: Origins Star Wars: Leia's Island Star Wars: Wars In the Pocket Star Wars: Stardust Memories Star Wars: Unicorn Star Wars: Narrative Star Wars: Star Savior
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Mantis42 posted:My ranking: So nearly right but any list that leaves out Star Wars: Star Ball Run is no list I can get behind
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Wolfsheim posted:I have also only seen Solo once but I remember thinking "that wasn't as bad as I expected" but I think that's because most of the main actors are doing their best and there's still small traces of the actually funny movie Lord & Miller wanted to make here and there I will say that I expected it to be worse, although it still isn't good. Also it reeks of "why did this need to be made" and "we need to show all these events in hans life because we have a list of boxes to check and look we did all the things"
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Imagine watching the Battle for Scarif and saying, “this movie cratered my expectations!!” Or even when they attempt to rescue Galen Erso. It’s a slow start and rough but once it gets going shits great. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeB-9lMKj9M Nothing in Solo or the entire new trilogy comes close to being this good.
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Vintersorg posted:Imagine watching the Battle for Scarif and saying, “this movie cratered my expectations!!” Or even when they attempt to rescue Galen Erso. There's this weightlessness to it because it's all in service of showing us a thing we didn't need to see (the rebels getting the plans) and none of the characters have enough of a personality (except film MVP Ben Mendelsohn) for me to feel anything when they all die in the span of ten minutes. This is also followed by an unrelated fan film of Vader murdering a bunch of guys, CGI Leia, and the weird choice to make it take place a few minutes before ANH begins which retroactively makes her dialogue in that film nonsense. You could argue Solo is equally weightless because no one gives a poo poo about how Han got his red stripey pants or whatever, but that movie's not trying to be a dramatic war film so it works a little better 
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Rogue One and Solo are both cool and good.
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Xenomrph posted:Rogue One and Solo are both cool and good. say that to dead-eyed CGI Peter Cushing's face 
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