Mister Speaker posted:

Holy smokes I just noticed that the arms dealer the cousins buy their vests from is Ryan McPoyle.

I generally don't share the disdain for the 'terminator twins' that some have, but that scene is maybe their most gratuitous moment. Like two hardened hitmen need to buy Kevlar vests from some hillbilly, let alone ask him if they really truly work. And then they don't even kill him in the end.

VROOM VROOM posted:

I have no memory of this. What show is this even from

ExtraQuiet posted:

I recommend the film "run ronnie run" to help fill these 6 weeks if any of you odengoons haven't watched it yet, movie rocks.
really early era saul stuff
I read somewhere that they felt the released movie was the worst version, which makes me wonder what awesome cut they're sitting on.
cause poo poo cracks me up

beep by grandpa posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7fYefWReMA&t=300s

timestamp I dunno what i expected uncle hectors actual real normal speaking voice to be but it wasnt that!

beep by grandpa posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7fYefWReMA&t=300s

timestamp I dunno what i expected uncle hectors actual real normal speaking voice to be but it wasnt that!

Zulily Zoetrope posted:

Lalo disappears for three full episodes between deciding to not go across the border and appearing in Germany. This builds suspense and sets up that he's doing something important and time-consuming, while we get to see Gus and Mike pull out all the stops and stress the gently caress out about where he's gonna show up, and when he finally resurfaces, the audience can fill in the blanks quite easily.

We don't know exactly how he got to Germany, but we have been shown that he has access to fake identities that hold up against moderate scrutiny, that he is a millionaire, and that cartel guys generally have bugout bags containing cash and fake ID. It's not hard to fill in the blanks, and showing Lalo doing all of these rather mundane things would take up screentime and diminish the mystery.

The scenes we got showed that he was extraordinarily prepared in that he even had an unwitting body double who could be turned into a charred corpse with his dental records if he ever happened to need one, that his gut reaction was to just go kill Gus until Hector told him to be smart, and that he can be both a slick James Bond investigator and a cartel sociopath interrogator when he needs to be.

Those scenes all display how fuckin dangerous Lalo is, while a scene of him digging up a bag with a million in cash and a fake passport, or chattin up a swooning flight attendant while covering a newspaper that says "Eduardo Salamanca murdered, no longer on the radar of federal agents" with his thumbs, would not add anything to the story.

Human Tornada posted:

Here's the thing about what the show decides to show and not show re: Lalo flying to Germany. The writers are making all this up out of whole cloth, so if they imagined something interesting happening as Lalo flies to Germany, they would have put it in the show. But instead they decided "no there's no story there so we're not going to show it and instead show stuff that is interesting and relevant to the story and characters", and as a bonus it will build suspense until Lalo does pop up again.

Think about the scene where Kim is lying in bed and can't sleep so she gets up and puts a chair under the door and nervously smokes and pretends to be working when Jimmy wakes up. There's a reason they decide to depict Kim on this particular night and not, say Clifford Main sleeping soundly in his bed.

mobby_6kl posted:

we see Lalo back in ABQ, where he's doing some recon (which doesn't really do anything plot-wise at least so far)

Irony Be My Shield posted:

Howard noticing Jimmy was loving with him and hiring a PI was the whole point of the plan.

Zulily Zoetrope posted:

Disagree on this, though. Lalo living in the sewers and only coming up for a couple hours to shower/eat/sleep at a truck stop (implying he spends 22 hours a day down there, watching) shows how committed and methodical he can be when needed. This is a one individual who has paralyzed every other major character that are all just waiting to see what he does next and hoping it's something they can survive. They need to establish why that fear is warranted.

Plus, he's got proof the Superlab exists, which is something Gus managed to keep hidden from both the DEA and the cartels. This establishes Lalo as the single greatest threat to the whole operation (except for Walt eventually getting in on it, of course).

mobby_6kl posted:

I'm exaggerating obviously but I hope the point makes sense. Again this is probably because at this stage it was clear to me that they were way over the line, so there was no satisfaction or enjoyment in watching it whatsoever.

Chadzok posted:

There are shades of grey that might mean more to some people, eg Hamlin convincing old lady that wheelchair was best, general disgust with the law/lawyers in general, the age/situation of the clients etc.

Takes No Damage posted:

TBF in-universe BCS Mike is what, mid 50s? He was still the grizzled pro hitman through the first half(?) of BB, so that's 4 or 5 years from where they are right now.

mobby_6kl posted:

The whole scheme turned out to be a bit of a disappointment. I get that it's just a plot device to show how they're assholes who'll make the wrong choice when presented an easy opportunity to do the right thing, so it had to work out perfectly. But it was set up over six episodes like some crazy maser plan, but turned out to be not particularly interesting and Howard, despite being a smart guy who was completely ware of it, posed no resistance. Howard confronts Jimmy? Doesn't change anything. Howard hires a PI? Well of course he's on Jimmy's payroll, what, did you think anything could challenge their plan? Even their only setback with a broken arm was fixed with the magic of five hundred bucks.

Mister Speaker posted:

Holy smokes I just noticed that the arms dealer the cousins buy their vests from is Ryan McPoyle.

I generally don't share the disdain for the 'terminator twins' that some have, but that scene is maybe their most gratuitous moment. Like two hardened hitmen need to buy Kevlar vests from some hillbilly, let alone ask him if they really truly work. And then they don't even kill him in the end.

Action Serious posted:

The plan worked perfectly, that’s why Howard is dead on their living room floor. What an underwhelming plan. Waste of 6 episodes.

Action Serious posted:

The plan worked perfectly, that’s why Howard is dead on their living room floor. What an underwhelming plan. Waste of 6 episodes.

OctaviusBeaver posted:

The plan felt underwhelming once it's revealed that the magical drug was doing the heavy lifting. At that point give him LSD and it would be just as embarrassing.

precision posted:

yeah it was some kind of amphetamine that isn't tested for. or maybe ketamine.

OctaviusBeaver posted:

If you can drug him by handing him a damp piece of paper then the rest of the scheme is pointless. Just give him drugs and he'll act weird at the hearing, why bother with the country club and fake bribe? They didn't play on his character flaws like with Chuck or the Mesa Verde guy, they just drugged him so he freaked out. It's a court room super weapon but I predict it will never come up again.

It's not the worst plot point ever, but after 6 episodes of build up it felt like a let down.

OctaviusBeaver posted:

If you can drug him by handing him a damp piece of paper then the rest of the scheme is pointless. Just give him drugs and he'll act weird at the hearing, why bother with the country club and fake bribe? They didn't play on his character flaws like with Chuck or the Mesa Verde guy, they just drugged him so he freaked out. It's a court room super weapon but I predict it will never come up again.

It's not the worst plot point ever, but after 6 episodes of build up it felt like a let down.

goblin week posted: