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nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

CLAM DOWN posted:

I haven't watched Lower Decks but I just found out there's a ship in it called the USS Vancouver which absolutely rules, as I'm a very loud Vancouverite:



It's wiki has the greatest description:

And it's shuttles are named after neighbourhoods here!!! :swoon:

The Vancouver was Titmouse Animation's little self cameo in Lower Decks, as they're based out of Vancouver. I love the fact that the Vancouver is just a better Cerritos. It's a really god mid-tier Post-TNG/First Contact era general purpose ship design.

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CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




I was hoping it could be canon that the USS Vancouver goes back in time to kill Elon Musk

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




Also, should I watch Lower Decks? Worth it? I was so burned on Discovery and Picard that I'm hesitant on nutrek stuff, but SNW has been incredible.

Arthur Bowlsworth
Dec 5, 2003

Wot wot, old boy. Might one have a toke?
Yes

Charity Porno
Aug 2, 2021

by Hand Knit

CLAM DOWN posted:

Also, should I watch Lower Decks? Worth it? I was so burned on Discovery and Picard that I'm hesitant on nutrek stuff, but SNW has been incredible.

Yeah people didn't like the first three for some reason but I thibk its all great

XboxPants
Jan 30, 2006

Steven doesn't want me watching him sleep anymore.
If you're worried about it being too jokey, I absolutely can't stand Orville and I freakin' love Lower Decks. I guess the first 2-3 episodes of LD leaned into that "Cartoon for Adults!" vibe a bit more, but it's really relaxed on it. And the comedy they've had has been funny anyway, like Spock Amuck!

On that note, I just picked up Orville and I want to like it, I do, but I'm just so, so done with Seth Macfarlane humor. Like, I was burned out on that fifteen years ago. There's bright spots, but the dark spots are absolutely dire. I've only tried early episodes, is there a point I should skip to where it's not so, like... cheap and lazy? Maybe back when Discovery and Picard were the only other source for new Trek it would have seemed okay, but putting SNW up against "computer, replicate a WEED EDIBLE LOL" just makes me feel like I'm dying inside.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

CLAM DOWN posted:

Also, should I watch Lower Decks? Worth it? I was so burned on Discovery and Picard that I'm hesitant on nutrek stuff, but SNW has been incredible.

Yes. Lower Decks, Prodigy and Strange New Worlds are all fantastic. They beclown Discovery and Picard by merely existing. LDS' first three episodes are a rough sit, but it finds it footing very quickly after that.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Lower Decks is the best new Trek, SNW is still on probation.

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006





Spock Amok effects shot in huge mode. Open in new tab for even bigger.

You can get a lot of scale info here -- the shuttle bay and cargo bay are a LOT bigger than on the TOS model. The lack of lights for suggests that the whole aft ventral quadrant of the secondary hull is cargo bay.

Also worth thinking about is where the Connie keeps the deuterium slush. It doesn't have a big hump like the Galaxy to keep it in, so it's got to be taking up a big volume in the secondary hull.

Arglebargle III fucked around with this message at 23:46 on Jun 6, 2022

Wheeee
Mar 11, 2001

When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

Sir, we found Ensign Morgan blacked out down in the East Hastings, again

Zaroff
Nov 10, 2009

Nothing in the world can stop me now!

XboxPants posted:

On that note, I just picked up Orville and I want to like it, I do, but I'm just so, so done with Seth Macfarlane humor. Like, I was burned out on that fifteen years ago. There's bright spots, but the dark spots are absolutely dire. I've only tried early episodes, is there a point I should skip to where it's not so, like... cheap and lazy? Maybe back when Discovery and Picard were the only other source for new Trek it would have seemed okay, but putting SNW up against "computer, replicate a WEED EDIBLE LOL" just makes me feel like I'm dying inside.

The first few episodes of The Orville are not great - to begin with MacFarlane had to lower the standards as the Fox executives were expecting Family Guy level humour.

Once you hit episode 4 or 5 he’s able to make the show he wanted to and it’s much better, with the exception of episode 9 or 10, which is borderline homophobic.

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

Grand Fromage posted:

There'd still need to be some energy input or eventually the atmosphere would just freeze. Accretion disk wouldn't work since that's transitory. I wonder if you could have a planet geothermally active enough with a sick-rear end atmosphere to maintain an Earthlike surface without a star.

The episode starts with the Enterprise delivering an air filtration system so that the atmosphere can remain breathable. The planet's air is not naturally hospitable. So maybe there's some hosed up stuff going on that allows the planet to be otherwise hospitable?

Crusader
Apr 11, 2002

https://twitter.com/gaghyogi49/status/1533919155988078593

punishedkissinger
Sep 20, 2017

CLAM DOWN posted:

Also, should I watch Lower Decks? Worth it? I was so burned on Discovery and Picard that I'm hesitant on nutrek stuff, but SNW has been incredible.

Lower Decks is better than most animated shows and most star trek shows.

Delsaber
Oct 1, 2013

This may or may not be correct.

Lower Decks starts slightly manic but settles down after a couple episodes and basically turns into Futurama. I think it's still the best of the modern shows, though SNW is already nipping at its heels. Prodigy is also surprisingly solid but I'm like 20-30 years outside its age range so I tend to think of it differently.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


A.o.D. posted:

The episode starts with the Enterprise delivering an air filtration system so that the atmosphere can remain breathable. The planet's air is not naturally hospitable. So maybe there's some hosed up stuff going on that allows the planet to be otherwise hospitable?

Lack of heat input is the fundamental problem. It doesn't matter what the atmospheric gas mix is if it's all frozen to the surface.

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle




Powered Descent posted:

According to original canon, in only two years or so, Chapel will have a fiancee, Roger Korby, who will go missing during an expedition to Exo III and not be heard from for five years. I wonder if they'll do something with that or just happily leave it in the dustbin.

That's the great thing about these dinky 10 episode seasons. How long has gone by in the first 5 episodes? A month, maybe? They can have another 6 seasons before she even meets Roger and still fit the timeline.

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

Grand Fromage posted:

Lack of heat input is the fundamental problem. It doesn't matter what the atmospheric gas mix is if it's all frozen to the surface.

Accretion disks can last for a long time.

xerxus
Apr 24, 2010
Grimey Drawer
If I were looking to join a colony, it would not be one with a black hole in the system.

Plenty of Class M planets in the galaxy.

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle




xerxus posted:

If I were looking to join a colony, it would not be one with a black hole in the system.

Plenty of Class M planets in the galaxy.

What if this is the one that has the best Final Fantasy X cosplay tho? Or some valuable minerals to mine, miners getting personally rich is still possible in this time. The eggheads should be able to calculate if the planet is currently safe, so if the planet is perfectly safe for at least the next 1,500 years there's no reason not to colonize now and kick the can of impending apocalypse down the road to your descendants. As one does.

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
https://linktr.ee/Cylindricule

It's probably a good place to study a black hole from

Then again, so's a warp-capable starship

XboxPants
Jan 30, 2006

Steven doesn't want me watching him sleep anymore.

Facebook Aunt posted:

What if this is the one that has the best Final Fantasy X cosplay tho? Or some valuable minerals to mine, miners getting personally rich is still possible in this time. The eggheads should be able to calculate if the planet is currently safe, so if the planet is perfectly safe for at least the next 1,500 years there's no reason not to colonize now and kick the can of impending apocalypse down the road to your descendants. As one does.

Yo sign me up for blitzball planet right fuckin now

Delsaber
Oct 1, 2013

This may or may not be correct.

I'd rather have Triple Triad planet, but that may as well be fizzbin

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




XboxPants posted:

On that note, I just picked up Orville and I want to like it, I do, but I'm just so, so done with Seth Macfarlane humor. Like, I was burned out on that fifteen years ago. There's bright spots, but the dark spots are absolutely dire. I've only tried early episodes, is there a point I should skip to where it's not so, like... cheap and lazy?

The change in tone from silly jokes to actual drama with some humor is a little over halfway through episode six. Watch the whole episode and see if your knowledge of North American car rental companies will let you spot the joke they told by omission!

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004

MichaelFlatley posted:

I also don’t like Greatest Disco for those same reasons.. try All Access Star Trek from a couple people who run trekmovie.com

This is waay more up my alley, seems like it could be what I'm looking for. I'll give it a few episodes, thanks!

Orthanc6
Nov 4, 2009

nine-gear crow posted:

The Vancouver was Titmouse Animation's little self cameo in Lower Decks, as they're based out of Vancouver. I love the fact that the Vancouver is just a better Cerritos. It's a really god mid-tier Post-TNG/First Contact era general purpose ship design.

And the shuttles aboard are named after Vancouver suburbs. Once the Eaglemoss model is out I'm buying the Gre'thor outta it

Lower Decks I would say is the best NuTrek because it took a completely unorthodox approach to Trek and yet made itself a vastly superior show to both of the live-action "serious" Treks running contemporary to it. Beyond that, it brought back the feel of 90's Trek which was arguably lost even back with Nemesis.

Strange New Worlds is doing fantastic catch-up for bringing that same feeling back to live-action, polishing TOS and updating the format all at the same time. And being visually stunning without overcrowding. But yeah, I can't blame people for holding it on probation, what with 6 seasons of really rough live-action Trek before now.

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

I told DALL E mini to make Muppet Star Trek Wrath of Khan and this came out









I spared you the horrifying human-muppet hybrids it makes when it gets confused. That's more of a Motion Picture thing anyway.

oops wrong thread

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
I would say this is definitely the correct thread

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

Arglebargle III posted:

oops wrong thread

No, no, please continue

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

XboxPants posted:

Yo sign me up for blitzball planet right fuckin now

Star Wars has a Blitzball planet now apparently.

Pyroi
Aug 17, 2013

gay elf noises

nine-gear crow posted:

Star Wars has a Blitzball planet now apparently.

sorry what


Arglebargle III posted:

I told DALL E mini to make Muppet Star Trek Wrath of Khan and this came out









I spared you the horrifying human-muppet hybrids it makes when it gets confused. That's more of a Motion Picture thing anyway.

oops wrong thread

Next time: Pike finds the muppet planet, where a Federation starship crashed a thousand years ago after being hit with a tachyon particle wave. Kermit the Frog guest stars.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Pyroi posted:

sorry what

Next time: Pike finds the muppet planet, where a Federation starship crashed a thousand years ago after being hit with a tachyon particle wave. Kermit the Frog guest stars.

Anson Mount as the unwitting love rival for Miss Piggy's affections :hellyeah:

Nullsmack
Dec 7, 2001
Digital apocalypse

CLAM DOWN posted:

Also, should I watch Lower Decks? Worth it? I was so burned on Discovery and Picard that I'm hesitant on nutrek stuff, but SNW has been incredible.

Until Strange New Worlds came out, Lower Decks was the best nutrek had to offer. It's a little too manic jokey and rough starting but settles in nicely. There's Prodigy too. It's really made for kids but if you can get past that it's good for what it is. Seems like it's going to have some story about what happened with Janeway and Chakotay after Voyager in it.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013
You're all thinking too small. They need to Legends of Tomrrow this poo poo. A Muppet Virus breaks out on the Enterprise and M'Benga and Chapel have to race to discover a cure before the entire crew is turned into puppets.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

nine-gear crow posted:

M'Benga and Chapel have to race to discover a cure before the entire crew is turned into puppets.

...why? :colbert:

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

Spock: Captain, I have an intense dislike of puppetry.

Pike: Well, you're gonna need to get over it Spock because MY HEAD IS THE SIZE OF A SOCCER BALL AND MADE OF FABRIC NOW!

Spacebump
Dec 24, 2003

Dallas Mavericks: Generations
I wish Strange New Worlds got a 20 episode season and one of the other shows got a 0 episode season.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

Spacebump posted:

I wish Strange New Worlds got a 20 episode season and one of the other shows got a 0 episode season.

SNW deserves 20 episodes. Discovery deserves 0. Picard deserves a better writers room that knows how to actually follow through on ideas properly. Lower Decks and Prodigy deserve loving Peabody Awards.

Delsaber
Oct 1, 2013

This may or may not be correct.

Lower Decks at least got nominated for a Hugo

If they wanna revive Short Treks specifically for little SNW interludes between seasons that would be cool

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Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.
I’d honestly choose Disco over Picard. Disco is dumb but I like some of the cast, it’s nice to see genuine and varied representation being given a priority, and at it least occasionally has good ideas.

Picard is just a massive disappointment. Getting to make a Star Trek show and then setting your entire season in basically-modern-day LA is an offense that should get you banned from ever working on the franchise again.

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