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510rems posted:how do people get to level 90 and higher? is it really just doing maps normally and "lol don't die idiot"? 88 to 89 is where I feel the experience stings, 89 to 90 is just more of the same. Play a lot, and don't die. 90 to 92 is uhh more of the same, then 92 to 95 there's an actual sharp increase in nolifing but it's just a matter of playing the game safely and getting those 10% experience bars faster than you don't die. At 95% the jump to 96% is considerably more painful so it's common for people to stop at 92 or 94/95 in my friends list, I feel like if you can make to 93 you end up making to 94+ based on rhythm or how good your build is at surviving. 96-97 is horrible but still manageable by just playing. To get to 98, 99 and 100 I feel like you really have to try because even if you don't die the experience requisite scales to much higher than you achieve by playing the game normally, even if "normally" is farming everything you've ever wanted. Like I think the first time I got 36 challenges I got to level 97 and I did them all by myself, so that was just exhaustively soloing everything that I had to + reaching very high levels of delve which was something I enjoyed, and delve gives a fair amount of experience. So 97 is another stopgap I see, I think Havoc stops at 97 for some of his builds because the last 3 points just take a significant time investment. 98-99 is much worse than 97-98, and 99-100 feels the same as 98-99. You can get to 100 just mapping or delving but it requires a certain level of commitment that puts the rest of the game into perspective: Whatever efforts you have to get to 90 - and I don't mean to diminish them because I often play dumb squishy builds and die a lot at 88/89 - are a tiny, tiny fraction of the time needed to get a bar at 99. However chayulas, cowards trial and 5-ways provide a relatively safe way, if expensive, to get huge chunks of experience, so some people opt to run them instead.
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Jun 6, 2022 22:09
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thanks for the replies, everyone. looking over my pob, i think mainly my life is too low and my chaos res is also very bad. amulet and my rings seem to be the places where that could be most obviously remedied. obviously, i'm sure most of my ssf armor could be better but compared to my jewelry there's at least life rolls on them. it's also completely possible there's something else in my tree that i'm missing. here's my pob, if anyone would care to look at it: https://pastebin.com/z5awEKNC 510rems fucked around with this message at 22:25 on Jun 6, 2022 |
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Jun 6, 2022 22:22
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You're basically very vulnerable to everything. The only good defensive layer you got going is a well stacked reduced extra damage from critical strikes. Otherwise, you're vulnerable to chaos damage, physical damage, and any unlucky chain of hits really. You should consider investing on spell suppression, one of the most broken things in the game. I don't know what your build is, exactly, but you're also playing an Elementalist and missing on Elemancer. Before the rest of Elementalist got buffed, Elementalist was sometimes played in SSFHC and only leveled up twice in labs because A) Liege of Primordial + Elemancer are good enough that they can carry an entire ascendancy even with 2 missing labs B) well the other options were bad really and not worth the time or risk. Since then those nodes sort of got buffed and what wasn't buffed was shuffled around to Golem Commander in the tree. Point is that being an Elementalist gives you access to one of the biggest chunks of Physical Damage Reduction in the game, the Chaos Golem.
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Jun 6, 2022 22:31
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Spell suppression seems bugged in how good it is.
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Jun 6, 2022 22:35
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510rems posted:how do people get to level 90 and higher? is it really just doing maps normally and "lol don't die idiot"? 93 is a realistic goal to shoot for while still dying fairly often. anything past that requires you to either be tanky enough to plow through whatever content comes your way (except possibly the various super bosses and maven invitations) or to buckle down and do lots of boring content that probably can't kill you but still gives okay-ish exp. or shell out for breachstones ofc
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Jun 6, 2022 22:46
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what i do is just do content, eventually i'll not die enough and get to like 30-50% xp, and then i pool all the sulfite we have with friends, and we run delve for 3-4 hours and level up this is how i got to lv96 in archnem, which is 3 levels more than i've ever been previously. i always maxed at 92-93 before i know there's better/faster ways but delve is just the right amount of braindead and cheap to work for me
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Jun 6, 2022 22:57
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my highest character ever was a lacerate gladiator in heist that got to 94
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Jun 6, 2022 23:06
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seconding that 97 is about as high as you're gonna get though normal playing even if you have a super tanky build like RF or whatever. I've only hit 97 on RF and MoM / Agnostic back when the game was better after 97 dying just loving sucks
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Jun 6, 2022 23:06
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I think my last build will be str stacker with that new boot affix from recombinations. That looks exceptionally juicy .
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Jun 6, 2022 23:09
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also yeah i should say my 96 was a pconc/plageb occultist which is just stupid for delves. throw grenades, enable plaguebearer, watch the exp bar grow in realtime lmao
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Jun 6, 2022 23:10
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Truga posted:also yeah i should say my 96 was a pconc/plageb occultist which is just stupid for delves. throw grenades, enable plaguebearer, watch the exp bar grow in realtime lmao yeah Delve is my XP bank: "well I want to level and I only have 25% left but I've got 40+k sulphite banked so, guess I'm delving"
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Jun 6, 2022 23:12
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96 is where I personally stop. Deaths are awful starting about then it seems to be not worth the stress . But no doubt getting to 100 would add a lot of power.
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Jun 6, 2022 23:15
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510rems posted:how do people get to level 90 and higher? is it really just doing maps normally and "lol don't die idiot"? What everyone else said, but the tendency is that at 89+, you want to run T16s and your build is mostly completed and limited by currencies. So people juice the maps to get more monsters, more exp, more loot. And more danger. When I'm pushing for 95, I tend to go safer with my maps and once there's 25% left, I tend to run Delve and Alva temples. Delve is ridiculously safe at <250 depth and is okay experience, better if you get vaal depths. Alva is huge quant, lots of magic and rare packs, lots of unique bosses and generally safe unless you got an atziri running around. And they're ilvl 83. Very safe for the last pushes. Also, things like untainted paradise, beach head, etc for unique maps. The safe ones, that is. I wouldn't run death and taxes.
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Jun 6, 2022 23:15
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I've got enough for a mageblood + 50ex leftover and no idea what i want to build. CoC FR only looks like it's getting more expensive, sadly.
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Jun 6, 2022 23:15
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510rems posted:thanks for the replies, everyone. Ooh, yeah, this is not a super tanky archetype and it looks like you're somewhat struggling to get damage as well with a couple of uniques with low/no life rolls but 50%+ increased damage. 16k armor isn't bad per se, but it's also not a huge amount. Swapping to Elemancer, like Elentor suggested, and keeping the flame golem will increase your base damage a little but reduce it on bosses. A stone and chaos golem will do a lot for survivability, though, giving you a good chunk of PDR that isn't reduced by large hits, and a good chunk of regen. Defiance Banner would help scale the armor further too. Getting more chaos res or max res would help a lot too. Are you committed to the SSF life? If not, trade will make it real easy to upgrade a lot of this stuff. Unless SSF is really, like, a priority for you, especially with mobility issues impacting, I'd really recommend going trade.
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Jun 6, 2022 23:19
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510rems posted:how do people get to level 90 and higher? is it really just doing maps normally and "lol don't die idiot"? The short answer is yes but the long answer is you need to get ele weakness and exposure capped so, that's like I think 60% over your max res? Probably a minimum of 15-20% chaos res, at least 4.5k life, and if you can, a shield. Also max spell suppression and determination, even with no armor bases, is still a nice chunk off of damage from enemies... Sometimes.
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Jun 6, 2022 23:22
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thanks again for the build suggestions + leveling tips, everyone. i'm gonna make the swap over to golems now and focus on chipping away at some gear upgrades. i'll keep the leveling tips in mind, but it sounds like i should probably focus on the defenses for now instead of getting myself worked up over a few more skill points.
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Jun 6, 2022 23:38
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510rems posted:how do people get to level 90 and higher? is it really just doing maps normally and "lol don't die idiot"? I have awful loving arthritis, so I feel you, exile. Here is my advice: There is no shame in doing normal maps. There is no shame in doing magic maps. You don't have to ultra-krangle your maps to enjoy POE. You can make steady progress to 90-92 this way (as others have said) and not lose your loving mind. If you want to try some spicy content to mix things up, drop down a few map tiers. My build absolutely sucks at blight, but I run blights at 5 tiers lower to adjust for that when I want to get oils. I spec'd my atlas into +guardian map drops and sell each and every one to buy better poo poo for the content I do run. POE is an extreme land of contrasts. Don't let the idea that you gotta run brisket-juicy content 24-7 to level, or even to have fun. Pick a system and run with it. To borrow from the elden ring thread: If the content sucks... hit da bricks! You can always post your POB as well for ideas from the hivemind to improve your tankiness.
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Jun 6, 2022 23:39
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does anyone havev an uber strict filter they like? suitable for juicing with 4 sextants, scarabs, etc?
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Jun 6, 2022 23:47
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510rems posted:how do people get to level 90 and higher? is it really just doing maps normally and "lol don't die idiot"? By the time you're in deep reds you need to have multiple solid layers of defense, and need to start playing much, much more carefully if you don't. There's a lot of tiny, easy-to-miss stuff that adds up: map mods (extra damage, -max res, extra crit damage, faster attack, reflect, loss of regen/recovery, curses), Eldritch Altar effects, and now piles of archnem mods on top of that. Don't be afraid to reroll maps that look spicy -- I throw chaos on any maps with no regen, -max res, or elemental ailment avoidance reflexively, even though I could probably do them if I was careful. Alternatively, don't be afraid to drop down some map tiers to an area where you're comfortable -- yes, you'll get less exp and it will take longer to level, but it will still be faster than if you're dying every 20 minutes and constantly losing huge chunks of exp.
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Jun 6, 2022 23:50
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typically at 90+ you should be choosing between accumulating experience and accumulating money/gear upgrades, since the best ways to do the latter will kill the poo poo out of you. i don't play ssf though, so i'm not sure if that's true for ssf players (i'm guessing yes? since harvest is insanely rippy). once your atlas is capped out you can easily oversustain maps, so don't feel bad about running maps white or blue if you want safe experience, too.
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Jun 7, 2022 00:01
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yeah until I got gear upgrades last night I ran my maps rare but rolled to not be too bad, and white invitations/guardians. the loot difference is significant, but mostly only on a long term. one map at a time it's not very noticeable
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Jun 7, 2022 00:24
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I just don't plan to get past 90. If I do happen to gain a level or two past it that's great, but I don't plan my builds around it. I also can't really stick with a particular build for very long before I get bored and want to try something else.
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Jun 7, 2022 00:46
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Fister Roboto posted:I just don't plan to get past 90. If I do happen to gain a level or two past it that's great, but I don't plan my builds around it. This is totally fine of course, but you do kinda miss out if you don't go at least a few levels past 90 IMO, it's not just the extra passive points it's just forcing yourself to have a build that can get to that point and then you start feeling more powerful which is fun.
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Jun 7, 2022 01:15
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I tend to push high if the build can meaningfully benefit from the points more than just another spare life node or jewel socket.
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Jun 7, 2022 01:40
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respecced into golems, followed the advice about doing the last 25% of a level in a vaal delve area, and listened to the album rumors by fleetwood mac one and half times. hit 90 and found an exalt.  thanks yall.
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Jun 7, 2022 02:59
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510rems posted:respecced into golems, followed the advice about doing the last 25% of a level in a vaal delve area, and listened to the album rumors by fleetwood mac one and half times. quote:Now here you go again What am I doing with my fuckin life, man.
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Jun 7, 2022 03:16
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I just hoard challenging stuff for when I ding a level in the 90s and then just run all of that poo poo at once. Once I zero that stuff out I focus on safely leveling. I just hit 96, and I maybe will push towards 97, but I think I can do wave 30 Sim now, so I'm not stressing it. I got to 27 last time I tried, and I got significant upgrades since then, so wish me luck in about 10 mins here. Edit: Got worked at 23 by K-sword man. DangerDongs fucked around with this message at 05:18 on Jun 7, 2022 |
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Jun 7, 2022 04:18
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Empowered haunted rogue exiles are an incredibly lucrative income source. I regret sticking with harbingers as long as I did.
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Jun 7, 2022 04:43
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boo_radley posted:Empowered haunted rogue exiles are an incredibly lucrative income source. I regret sticking with harbingers as long as I did. I'm going to want to hear more about this. This sounds juicy.
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Jun 7, 2022 05:19
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you take the rogue exile nodes and the possessed nodes and then you empower them with sentinels and they drop very good loot. The downside is that it makes them very rippy
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Jun 7, 2022 05:23
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I think I'm done leveling at 96, so I'll definitely give this a go over Harbringer.
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Jun 7, 2022 05:26
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its a strange feel to brick Maven, run sirus and clear him, then elderslayers, try Maven again, get further than I ever have before... And completely brick the fight again because it's too hard to hit her with helix lol
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Jun 7, 2022 08:59
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DangerDongs posted:I think I'm done leveling at 96, so I'll definitely give this a go over Harbringer. idk how amazing the loot is relative to a mid-high investment strat, but it's fun and a definite change of pace and rogue exiles are kind of what rare monsters should've been
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Jun 7, 2022 09:01
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I just realized I could probably solve almost all my loving boss fight positioning problems by swapping Spec Throw for Helix since you don't care about projectile coverage in a single target situation. Or get a Divergent just in case for bosses that move a lot, especially because I won't care about projectile speed in that situation either
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Jun 7, 2022 09:19
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Elentor posted:I think I've said this before, especially when I asked before why people don't play Explosive Trap and the answer was just "Seismic Trap is better" but I legit think that's just a meta thing. I apologize if I missed it, but do you have a POB for this?
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Jun 7, 2022 14:27
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I've been playing around with POB for a cold reap occultist (since awakened spell cascade is 30c), and grabbed one of the new double Impresence (frostbite/enfeeble) for 60c. it's been two years since I've looked at enfeeble/temp chains since curse/hex rework. I recall they became "worse" and defense rework has obviously overshadowed running blasphemy auras for mana reservations. am I looking at this right? end-game bosses have 66% less curse effect, so my 15% enfeeble is actually 5%? lol man they really dumpstered curses. temp chains is even sadder looking now with all the easy chill affect we have access too
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Jun 7, 2022 15:03
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Goreban Dallas 2.0 posted:I apologize if I missed it, but do you have a POB for this? https://pastebin.com/yNq0wbL5
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Jun 7, 2022 15:06
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enfeeble/temp chains still stacks on top of malediction and everything else you have going, so it's not entirely worthless, but yeah it's quite whatever on bosses. i just swap enfeeble for a dps curse when i'm doing big bosses
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Jun 7, 2022 15:08
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Truga posted:enfeeble/temp chains still stacks on top of malediction and everything else you have going, so it's not entirely worthless, but yeah it's quite whatever on bosses. i just swap enfeeble for a dps curse when i'm doing big bosses I could also spend a few exalts on lvl 4 enhance, for like 1% more enfeeble affect after reductions lmao
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Jun 7, 2022 15:29
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