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Ches Neckbeard posted:Depends on the language in the contract. If there's a morality clause which is something teams usually put in there's no cap hit or money paid. Those are even in rookie contracts. I doubt Watson would've signed any contract with that language in it though. Yeah, I’m of the mind that Jimmy’s entire gambit here is that mega extension and no morality clause were the sweeteners he used just assuming the NFL cares more about protecting its young stars than “the shield”. I have never hoped in my life for a commissioner to wreck a team I’ve rooted for, but I legitimately wouldn’t be sad if Goodell just put him on exempt indefinitely but made jimmy keep paying him as effectively a $240m fine. This ownership has set a new low in a city with the Dolans and Dan loving Gilbert, and I hope that they lose everything even if it returns the franchise to the days of Hue. Probably should punish the Texans too if they covered poo poo up, but Jimmy traded for Deshaun knowing what was out there and shouldn’t get to skate for that. Also, why the gently caress hasn’t he been on the exempt list since this all came out like 2 years ago? What’s even the point of having one if you don’t use it in a situation like this.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Void the contract, void the picks as in they no longer exist for anyone, force Haslem to sell the team. If there is any kind of deal made to keep this from killing the Browns as a franchise, which $60m a year cap hit thru 2026 and 2 more years of no firsts essentially would be, it absolutely should involve Jimmy Haslem being forced to sell and barred from future ownership. Shimrra Jamaane posted:Jon Bois needs to do a The Browns are in Hell Part 2 I keep thinking about this. The Browns briefly got out of hell, but sold their souls and if the hammer comes down on Watson they will be going straight back to hell.
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This isn't surprising but it is horrifying. The league has to see this as a monetary risk. How have they avoided taking action at all? I don't expect them to have anyone's safety at heart. I did expect any self-preservation instincts.
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Jun 7, 2022 21:27
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What is important is that the Browns are going to have to start a lovely QB against the Jets in week 2.... I'm joking.
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Forrest on Fire posted:This isn't surprising but it is horrifying. The league has to see this as a monetary risk. How have they avoided taking action at all? I don't expect them to have anyone's safety at heart. I did expect any self-preservation instincts. They spent a year probably hoping he’d be arrested and thrown in prison because then it wouldn’t be their problem anymore. Well that didn’t happen (but hey maybe it will going forward if more details of stuff comes out it’s not like he was acquitted of anything) so they’re stuck being cowards petrified to do A Thing.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:They spent a year probably hoping he’d be arrested and thrown in prison because then it wouldn’t be their problem anymore. Well that didn’t happen (but hey maybe it will going forward if more details of stuff comes out it’s not like he was acquitted of anything) so they’re stuck being cowards petrified to do A Thing. They are Monitoring the Situation. A situation where a team attempted to suspension protect an unprecedented contract. A very public situation that gets worse daily. But by God they'll monitor it.
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Forrest on Fire posted:This isn't surprising but it is horrifying. The league has to see this as a monetary risk. How have they avoided taking action at all? I don't expect them to have anyone's safety at heart. I did expect any self-preservation instincts. Goodells stance so far has been to pass the buck onto the police/feds and lawyers and go "well, lets see what happens with them" It's lazy but effective deflecting since to this point they have not had to deal with him stepping onto a field and playing yet thanks to him sitting out all last year by refusing to play for the Texans. That could all change within two months though, so Goodell is going to have to make a decision relatively soon
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Jun 7, 2022 21:35
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I have a terrible feeling that the Browns' public reaction to this when everything collapses will be "why did the league let us sign this deal knowing what Watson had done?"
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skaboomizzy posted:I have a terrible feeling that the Browns' public reaction to this when everything collapses will be "why did the league let us sign this deal knowing what Watson had done?" The NFL needs a Haslem Rule the way the NBA made the Stepien Rule.
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skaboomizzy posted:I have a terrible feeling that the Browns' public reaction to this when everything collapses will be "why did the league let us sign this deal knowing what Watson had done?" "The league forced us to do the most morally odious deal in NFL history and make sure Watson would get paid even if he was suspended!"
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They’re not going to do anything until they have to, that’s just how they work. Should they do better? Absolutely. But if he’s not been put in a situation where he could play, they’re not going to step in. Goodell is absolutely hoping the browns will give him a year off while they ‘investigate’ the new cases so he doesn’t have to do poo poo.
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https://twitter.com/KatieJStrang/status/1534261097556869121/photo/1 I know, intellectually, that there are legitimate uses for NDAs out there. But my gut reaction every time I read a news story involving them is that those damned things need to be reigned in.
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Grittybeard posted:Article is paywalled for me but this quote is, a thing. Not a good thing, but we weren't expecting any of those. This should work
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Jun 7, 2022 21:40
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https://twitter.com/kevinmdraper/status/1534259659611201537 Oooweeee
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Nodoze posted:Goodells stance so far has been to pass the buck onto the police/feds and lawyers and go "well, lets see what happens with them" I mean the league is at least pretending that these new allegations are shocking. So they might use this as some moral horizon even if it’s just kind of arbitrary
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They knew exactly what was going on the whole time. There is no other reason for them to give him the NDA.
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lol this is really an all timer. how is this tweet still up!?
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CharlestheHammer posted:I mean the league is at least pretending that these new allegations are shocking. So they might use this as some moral horizon even if it’s just kind of arbitrary Yeah, they don't quite get the benefit of the doubt on that one after Ray Rice
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Nodoze posted:Yeah, they don't quite get the benefit of the doubt on that one after Ray Rice I mean they aren’t doing it because they actually care, if they cared they would do it you know during the first 23
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RoastBeef posted:This should work Appreciated.
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Totally forgot about this one. Schefter is such a shitbag water carrier.
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Diva Cupcake posted:Totally forgot about this one. Schefter is such a shitbag water carrier. Every agent should just have his login info. Save everyone time.
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Ches Neckbeard posted:Depends on the language in the contract. If there's a morality clause which is something teams usually put in there's no cap hit or money paid. Those are even in rookie contracts. I doubt Watson would've signed any contract with that language in it though. even then, they entered into a contract with this morality issue being well known. Would be hard to justify it being somehow actionable because of additional accusers. i have a feeling they're on the hook. and god drat do they texans only continue to look worse, but the owners and league have shown they don't give af about holding anyone accountable for this.
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Oh yeah sure, 24 women are all lying and the NFL can't do anything because he wasn't indicted! loving bullshit. NFL needs to put him on the exempt list forever. Both the Browns and Texans should lose draft picks. And of course you see why the grand jury didn't move forward, because Watson's lawyer was chummy with them and they didn't even make Watson take the stand. The prosecutors absolutely tanked that and they wanted to let Watson free.
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The level of cover up by the Texan's feels criminal even if it isn't. Like they were all in on it.
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Neil Armbong posted:even then, they entered into a contract with this morality issue being well known. Would be hard to justify it being somehow actionable because of additional accusers. i have a feeling they're on the hook. Like I said depends on the language if it even exists in the contract. It would certainly end up in court if the language is there and they tried to void though based off the exact argument you're making. (not a lawyer) Codependent Poster posted:Oh yeah sure, 24 women are all lying and the NFL can't do anything because he wasn't indicted! gently caress em both and that DA . Watson plead the 5th when it came to the grand jury so putting him on the stand was pointless however the DA called 1 witness who was a manager at one of the parlors Watson used while 12 of the victims sat in the courtroom ready to testify. None were called. Ches Neckbeard fucked around with this message at 22:42 on Jun 7, 2022 |
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lol the texans actively helped him try to cover it up gently caress this loving team no wonder they tried to swerve so hard in the jesus camp direction
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YOLOsubmarine posted:Did any of the assaults happen outside of Texas? Any chance he could still be charged in another locality? I'd have to assume the grand jury inquest can be reopened. Didn't that happen with Adrian Peterson after photos came out?
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Intruder posted:lol the texans actively helped him try to cover it up gently caress this loving team For no reason at all I'm thinking about that "inmates running the asylum" comment from the previous owner.
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Browns must’ve know this was coming today. No wonder they leaked all that stuff about Watson not being upfront
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I think it was just the Browns, Dolphins, Falcons and Panthers and all but the Browns bowed out early?
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The Saints we're definitely in on Watson too. For one.
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Henrik Zetterberg posted:It was reported that 13 teams were interested. well that's disappointing
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