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OMGVBFLOL posted:i can see why making it so every foreign intelligence service on earth can gather open-source intel on every US military domestic flight would, let's say "not be a priority" they still have to share airspace with commercial and GA planes, it's not quite so clear cut as this. it's gone wrong in the past, too. would adsb magically fix everything no, is it a bad idea to be in shared airspace without it, yeah illectro posted:You can see replays on adsbexchange using the replay parameter: this is awesome, thank you. I couldn't find replay on adsbexchange when I looked but I'll remember it now. Psion fucked around with this message at 02:35 on Jun 5, 2022 |
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Just when you thought Ryanair couldn't get any worse... Ryanair Afrikaans test: South African fury over language quiz https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-61703174 quote:
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Zero One posted:Just when you thought Ryanair couldn't get any worse... Holy poo poo, I thought it couldn't possibly anything really terrible, just some language option or something 
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Ryanair learned afrikaans exclusively from binging Die Antwoord videos
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Why is an airline requiring a trivia quiz in order to take a flight?
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Cojawfee posted:Why is an airline requiring a trivia quiz in order to take a flight? Airlines are generally responsible for checking that you have the right documents to enter your destination country, and are penalized if they don't do it/gently caress up. So I'm guessing that was their extremely horrible way of doing that.
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if someone's entry gets rejected is the airline required to return them at the airline's expense?
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Yes. Even if it is for a reason the airline would have no way to know. Like if the passenger had a valid but wrong type of visa. Or if the border agent didn't like their skin color.
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Ottawa Museum has a 'moratorium' on collecting anything, Pima Air Museum makes bid for last SAR Buffalo
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Nebakenezzer posted:Ottawa Museum has a 'moratorium' on collecting anything, Pima Air Museum makes bid for last SAR Buffalo Surprising that the RCAF Museum outside CFB Trenton isn't interested in it.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Surprising that the RCAF Museum outside CFB Trenton isn't interested in it. They have one. http://airforcemuseum.ca/eng/?page_id=4812
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hobbesmaster posted:They have one. I should've probably remembered that but I visited the museum in the Before Times so  .
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There already is an Air Afrikaans though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuLL8g8ena0
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Sorry I'm not backreading the last 740 pages. This is a neat story. https://theaviationgeekclub.com/sr-71-pilot-explains-how-he-survived-to-his-blackbird-disintegration-at-a-speed-of-mach-3-2/
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Nebakenezzer posted:Ottawa Museum has a 'moratorium' on collecting anything, Pima Air Museum makes bid for last SAR Buffalo Pima buffalo Buffalo buffalo Ottowa Buffalo
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Scam Likely posted:The wife and I recently got to see an airshow where the F-35 and F-22 performed, first time seeing them in person for us. The F-35's were surprisingly loud, louder than the twin engine F-22's ad F-18's. We were in Atlanta for Memorial Day weekend and four fighter jets in formation were doing passes for unknown reasons on Friday and it was amazingly loud. Like before I saw the fighters, I legit thought it was an airliner at some very unusual altitude.
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That’s sad because the Ottawa aviation museum is pretty dope tbh.
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smackfu posted:We were in Atlanta for Memorial Day weekend and four fighter jets in formation were doing passes for unknown reasons on Friday and it was amazingly loud. Like before I saw the fighters, I legit thought it was an airliner at some very unusual altitude. I'm about 15 miles from our national guard base and if the wind is blowing in the right direction the sound of the fighters taking off will shake my windows. If it's blowing in the opposite direction, sounds like distant thunder. Just insane how loud these things can get, which is weird because I've definitely done the "laying on my car just outside the fence along the runway path" when they land and not nearly as ear splitting as I'd expect.
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GnarlyCharlie4u posted:Sorry I'm not backreading the last 740 pages. Never not blackbird post.
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GnarlyCharlie4u posted:Sorry I'm not backreading the last 740 pages. I've read this story at least 4 or 5 times, every time it's posted, and it's always worth reading.
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Aaaaaaarrrrrggggg posted:I'm about 15 miles from our national guard base and if the wind is blowing in the right direction the sound of the fighters taking off will shake my windows. If it's blowing in the opposite direction, sounds like distant thunder.
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illectro posted:You can see replays on adsbexchange using the replay parameter: I've lurked in this thread forever without posting, I just wanted to say I appreciate this link. I've poked around for a while to find archives of flight tracks that included at least some military flights and I never found this site's replay feature. I started looking because sometime last summer, I randomly heard the loudest jet noise go overhead, it honestly sounded like a full rocket launch. I've never heard anything so loud here in town, I can't imagine it was anything but a fighter jet/jets blasting by for some reason, which I've never seen here. Obviously they weren't on flightaware and I didn't know about adsbexchange at the time. I can't remember the date closely enough to see if they might be on there without sitting through a couple months of data, but I'll know where to look if it happens again.
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Serjeant Buzfuz posted:I've read this story at least 4 or 5 times, every time it's posted, and it's always worth reading. Yeah I really appreciate the detail in this story and that each step of the ejection procedure and thought process was covered even though the event essentially boiled down to 'plane disintegrated, all automatic ejection systems performed as expected.'
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standard.deviant posted:Takeoff power involves afterburners and landing does not. Goddamn it I knew this and it just escaped my memory  Well... Mystery solved!
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OMGVBFLOL posted:i can see why making it so every foreign intelligence service on earth can gather open-source intel on every US military domestic flight would, let's say "not be a priority" It's almost as if any national actor that can act upon the information can't glean that information through other means easily. No the real reason is mil types hate to think they are not the absolute priority in everything so push back on any extra effort even well within their budget.
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standard.deviant posted:Takeoff power involves afterburners and landing does not. Yeah, at the air show the best passes were when they zipped by the crowd then turned tail and cranked the afterburner sending glorious air shearing ripples right into everyones chests. Guess it's the loudest you can get barring actually breaking the sound barrier.
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Electric Wrigglies posted:It's almost as if any national actor that can act upon the information can't glean that information through other means easily. i mean, as easily as writing a script to refresh a website and database the results? although yes i have no trouble believing military bureaucrats hate having to accommodate anyone or anything besides their own butts
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OMGVBFLOL posted:i mean, as easily as writing a script to refresh a website and database the results? although yes i have no trouble believing military bureaucrats hate having to accommodate anyone or anything besides their own butts what value is there in finding out a KC-135 is doing a training/practice flight of refuelling tracks off the Oregon coast is it greater or lesser than the value in that KC-135 not getting hit by a Cessna coming out of a cloud layer it's when those planes get deployed that matters, not when they're doing donuts in the sky at home Psion fucked around with this message at 22:48 on Jun 7, 2022 |
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i'm not arguing FOR it, just speculating on what the colossal lumbering bureaucracy that is the us military may have used to justify it e: also there's definitely value in being able to see increases or pattern changes in training and logistics, and get insight on what assets are at domestic bases vs forward deployed Cactus Ghost fucked around with this message at 22:49 on Jun 7, 2022 |
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I have to assume fleet upgrades involve enough paperwork to make anyone try to avoid it no matter how logical the upgrade is, but also lol mx budget please answer the other half of that question though, I get that there are reasons for it but you acknowledge it's a tradeoff, right Psion fucked around with this message at 23:03 on Jun 7, 2022 |
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Lol we don’t even have the budget to fix the planes and helicopters we do have. Adding the hardware for adsb on platforms that don’t already included is low priority for that reason alone. The budget of the military is controlled by the lobbies of our largest military contractors.
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Bob A Feet posted:Lol we don’t even have the budget to fix the planes and helicopters we do have. Adding the hardware for adsb on platforms that don’t already included is low priority for that reason alone. i remember, years ago, posting a quote from a book about desert storm which had mission readiness rates and at least one USAF guy couldn't believe how high they were because apparently they had maintenance budgets back then?  I literally had to go check the quote again because they were so surprised e: i think it was C-5 readiness which really made them go  because even though it was on the low end in the table, it was still a pretty high numberPsion fucked around with this message at 22:59 on Jun 7, 2022 |
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The commanding officer of the initial Osprey squadron was canned due to publicly saying he needed to “make the readiness numbers better.” That is commonplace these days.
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Psion posted:what value is there in finding out a KC-135 is doing a training/practice flight of refuelling tracks off the Oregon coast If nothing else, if it's doing donuts in Oregon it isn't deployed to somewhere you're about to start poo poo.
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Psion posted:please answer the other half of that question though, I get that there are reasons for it but you acknowledge it's a tradeoff, right the part about the value of preventative measures to bureaucrats? that answers itself imo, they'll never care about something that hasnt happened yet, except in circumstances where someone is explicitly threatening their job for not caring
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Psion posted:I have to assume fleet upgrades involve enough paperwork to make anyone try to avoid it no matter how logical the upgrade is, but also lol mx budget It took almost 15 years of planning, contracts, and red tape for the AWACS fleet to start entering the depot for flight deck upgrades to become RVSM compliant. New loving seats in the back were over a decade. That's about 30 jets. Now start thinking about 800 F-15s (a few years back), 1500 F-16s, etc.
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Hi yes hello https://twitter.com/303snowwolf/status/1533931706255699968
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^^ lol, lmaoGodholio posted:It took almost 15 years of planning, contracts, and red tape for the AWACS fleet to start entering the depot for flight deck upgrades to become RVSM compliant. New loving seats in the back were over a decade. hahaha okay well I knew the paperwork would be bad but I didn't think 15 years bad, hot drat OMGVBFLOL posted:they'll never care about something that hasnt happened yet I wasn't speaking hypothetically in that example. see here. though it wasn't a cessna, and I'll be the first to admit I have no idea whether or not adsb was involved or even would matter in this specific case. But to restate generally, I don't think anyone should get exceptions to safe shared civil airspace, even if I understand why some .mil planes don't have the gear, I find the ~Opsec~ arguments to be irrelevant. that's it really! Psion fucked around with this message at 01:58 on Jun 8, 2022 |
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Psion posted:^^ lol, lmao This is part of why companies become “defense only” and “not defense” - 15 years to finalize a contract is not possible for most even medium sized companies. But if you are a huge company and have something you started 15 years ago rolling…
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