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I mean Mass Effect 1's plot involves you the brave military desperately trying to convince the ineffective and useless civilian government that the Geth have a new WMD but they refuse to believe you. It would be a bit uncomfortable in general, but considering how fresh the Forever War in Iraq still was back in 07 or whatever it was when the game came out, yeah, yikes. I loved it then and I still adit to having a soft spot for the first two games, and especially the first, but goddamn if looking back on it as an adult does it not have some seriously grotesque politics. The solution to problems is for the government to authorize a supersoldier beholden to no one with absolute license to kill and do whatever they want whenever they want.
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I haven't even got to the point the plot is starting. It's just, on its face it's the most boring possible version of this kind of setting. Desperate lack of imagination just like every other Bioware game I've seen.
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Having recently replayed the series, I have to say that I may have overestimated my love for ME1. I like its vibes the most in the series with its more mysterious galaxy-building and its musical store. But once I have to start completing quests, it feels like a slog. ME2 might actually be my favorite to play because the dialogue moves at a good pace and the missions end before they feel too long.
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Play Star Control 2 people. It's adventurous and funny and you meet many memorable characters. And the gameplay is fun. It's the best version of any mass effect.
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:I mean Mass Effect 1's plot involves you the brave military desperately trying to convince the ineffective and useless civilian government that the Geth have a new WMD but they refuse to believe you. Goddamn. When you put it like this, I’ve never actually considered the context of it. Lol
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Dabir posted:I've made two attempts to watch Woolie's first Mass Effect episode and I just can't get through it. It's not them, it's the game, it's shocking how loving boring it is right off the jump. Oh boy, the Americans are in space, everyone's racist and we respect the troops. gently caress off. Bioware was never good. Lol wait until you see Mass Effect 2 where you are forced to work for a human supremacist organization Shame on BioWare for not realizing that we just want to hang out with our alien buddies
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Jun 7, 2022 18:20
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theCalamity posted:Lol wait until you see Mass Effect 2 where you are forced to work for a human supremacist organization Everything about the resurrection of Shepard in two makes so much more sense when you learn that the original plan was for the Geth to do it. The reactions people have to it (like the council being reluctant was meant to be that you’re working with the Geth, instead of just a Human Supremacist organisation you can refute at every possible moment).
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Lord_Magmar posted:Everything about the resurrection of Shepard in two makes so much more sense when you learn that the original plan was for the Geth to do it. I had no idea it was originally going to be the geth and it makes a lot more sense Especially with Legion having a piece of your armor grafted onto them The Cerberus stuff was the dumbest. Every atrocity they committed is written off as "it was a rogue scientist" which calls into question why they keep hiring rogue scientists
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Jun 7, 2022 19:27
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theCalamity posted:I had no idea it was originally going to be the geth and it makes a lot more sense Even better Legion has recorded voice lines for stuff he literally cannot participate in because he was meant to be your first squad member. Like the Councillors calling harbinger a Geth ship. Liara was also meant to be more directly involved in Project Lazarus (which she is anyway, she retrieved Shepard’s body).
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Jun 7, 2022 19:33
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Bioware *magic*
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Rexicon1 posted:Goddamn. When you put it like this, I’ve never actually considered the context of it. Lol
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Jun 7, 2022 20:14
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9/11 happened two weeks before season 1 episode 1 broadcast.
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Pennsylvanian posted:Having recently replayed the series, I have to say that I may have overestimated my love for ME1. I like its vibes the most in the series with its more mysterious galaxy-building and its musical store. But once I have to start completing quests, it feels like a slog. ME2 might actually be my favorite to play because the dialogue moves at a good pace and the missions end before they feel too long. ME2 is absolutely the best game in the series. I honestly think Pat summed up ME1 best when he said "it plays like a fake video game"
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Dabir posted:9/11 happened two weeks before season 1 episode 1 broadcast.
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Oxyclean posted:Yeah, I think I read something about them being in the middle of production (of season 2 presumably?) when it happened. Either way, Season 3 opens with earth being attacked by an alien super weapon that kills millions (in America of course), and it's quickly revealed another more deadly attack will occur in the future, so the crew needs to go to a remote part of space to stop the aliens responsible. There's a lot of episodes dealing with moral greyness and "do the ends justify the means" - it's been awhile so I dont remember the specifics but I think it does manage to be far more nuanced the bloodthirsty vengeance of 24, but you can just really feel reality reflecting hard in some of the episodes and the general themes. That's the opening of season 1. It cuts up a good portion of Florida bugs bunny style
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Ches Neckbeard posted:That's the opening of season 1. It cuts up a good portion of Florida bugs bunny style Season 1 also has some time authority shenanigans going on, but it's mostly piecemeal moral-quandary-of-the-week episodes IIRC. I think season 3 and 4 were a lot more serialized.
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Jun 7, 2022 20:53
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gently caress that series was so awful I blanked out the 1st 2 seasons completely
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I found it tolerable enough, but maybe I have a very low bar. It sure isn't TNG or DS9, but if you can tolerate VOY I dont think ENT is that much worse. It's certainly better (or at least not as exhaustingly gritty/cynical) then modern Trek.
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Jun 7, 2022 21:10
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tthe ends are bbad
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Lord_Magmar posted:Even better Legion has recorded voice lines for stuff he literally cannot participate in because he was meant to be your first squad member. Like the Councillors calling harbinger a Geth ship. Oh man, what we could've had instead of Yoomanity
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Mcbeefcake rules tho
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James Vega? Just another boring human
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Big McLargehuge kicks rear end, but yeah I mean I'd love to have a Volus companion.
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volus? I want an elcor
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Captain Invictus posted:volus? I want an elcor There is enough MEAT in James Vega to account for both.
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There’s no meat at all. James Vegan. Self-edit: wait I’m sorry, that’s Jacob. Jacob Vegan.
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James Vega is a himbo before the times and good
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There should have been a volus on your ship to hang out with, a hanar to romance, and an elcor squadmate on a hoverboard, but Bioware are cowards. Also I can't wait for 2026 when Woolie finally gets to Mass Effect 3 and meets Ninja McWiddlesinplants.
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Nuns with Guns posted:There should have been a volus on your ship to hang out with, a hanar to romance, and an elcor squadmate on a hoverboard, but Bioware are cowards. Everything I hear about Kai Leng feels like a fale character, tbh.
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Vega rules as a guy, but as another human taking up space in the third game? Nah. Now, if he was in ME1 and the only human you ever got, that'd be another story. A better one, because literally every other human party member loving sucks.
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I don't understand, there's only one human sidekick in mass effect 1, kaiden. He's boring but that's about it. He does a great job keeping the benches on the ship warm for wrex and garrus.
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https://twitter.com/PatStaresAt/status/1534216617172684800?s=20&t=8bTQ4Gxo4uBDUPck6mMMwQ
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lol gief just sunnin
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Rody One Half posted:Vega rules as a guy, but as another human taking up space in the third game? Nah. Now wait a goddamn minute Zaeed exists and rules. He would've beaten the reapers alone if Shepard died. Only goddamn being left alive but he'd have done it.
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The ending should have had Shepard walking into the Crucible only to see Zaeed already in there telling war stories to the Star Child.
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Monitor Burn posted:Its half a controller and an MMO mouse, add it to "Things Woolie would rather do than use a keyboard for old PC games" God that is so insane to me. It's been wild finding out how Woolie has an equal number of brainworms as Pat
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