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They probably have them all written up already. They're just waiting to release the most awful ones on the last minute of the last day so they can immediately bounce and go into hiding to avoid all comments, questions, and wrath for the term.
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Ubersandwich posted:I have an honest question, is the Supreme Court sitting on a stack of decisions and releasing them a few at a time for effect/convenience or are they still technically working out details and crossing t's and dotting i's even if the decisions are decided and the wait is more more logistics and procedure. From the description of the process by literally every clerk ever, public or private, they release opinions basically as soon as they’ve finalized them, they don’t sit on opinions.
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Yeah and my homework isn't finished until the due date either.
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It definitely feels like they always mic drop, then immediately crawl under a rock and wait for the summer to pass without having to face any questions whatsoever.
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Kalman posted:From the description of the process by literally every clerk ever, public or private, they release opinions basically as soon as they’ve finalized them, they don’t sit on opinions.
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cat botherer posted:Wow, weird how every year, it just so happens that they get done with with all opinions at the same time, and always in early June. I mean, they've got vacations scheduled. They're not going to make Alito cancel his plans for the Outer Banks. Having a deadline for the end of the term gives them a little clarity just like it does for everyone else. Someone sitting on the fence will finally come down one way or the other.
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Kaal posted:Yeah and my homework isn't finished until the due date either. It's possible that basically every single source ever (and every justice's papers) have managed to conceal significant delays between completion and release. I guess. e: To be more useful and less sarcastic, it's not like this is an unstudied phenomenon. It seems like more opinions come out at the end because, well, more opinion - of all types, important or not - come out in June. In OT2018 (to avoid COVID-related disruption), 29 of 73 cases came out in June, with 18 of those in the final week. Some were big cases; some were not. On average, SCOTUS cases tend to run around 90-100 days between argument and opinion release (per SCOTUSBlog statpack); the cases decided in June are mostly, though not uniformly, argued later in the term. There are some factors that seem to be predictive of an opinion taking longer than that average - public interest, amicus filings, number of concurrences/dissents, future citations to the opinion, and certain types of cases (civil liberties cases, cases finding a statute unconstitutional). (https://scholarship.law.duke.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3799&context=dlj for the data.) Also remember that from October through April (and sometimes into May), the Court is hearing arguments as well as writing opinions; the end of term frees them up to do nothing but finalize opinions. It's not shocking that they're more productive, from an opinion perspective, when they have fewer other responsibilities on their time. Kalman fucked around with this message at 03:44 on Jun 7, 2022 |
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Jun 7, 2022 03:20
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Something like a supreme court opinion everyone is going to keep editing right up until there is a deadline.
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I wouldn’t be surprised if they “sit on things” for about a week or so and everyone in the court considers that right up to the last minute. They certainly aren’t holding stuff for months though.
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hobbesmaster posted:I wouldn’t be surprised if they “sit on things” for about a week or so and everyone in the court considers that right up to the last minute. They certainly aren’t holding stuff for months though. Yeah, they definitely sit on stuff for a week or so just for finalization, last opportunities for dissents, etc., we know that from prior leaks and court papers and whatnot. Just not for months.
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Gonna be funny when the released alito hobbs decision matches ginni's early draft leak 100%
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Personally I'm wagering on it having somehow gotten worse just to spite the public for daring to have an opinion.
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You certainly can’t rule that out
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It's important that the supreme court has a summer break, because of farming season. (?)
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coelomate posted:It's important that the supreme court has a summer break, because of farming season. Appellate courts are so loving lazy. What do you think it would be like if trial judges took a break for three months a year?
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coelomate posted:It's important that the supreme court has a summer break, because of farming season. You joke, but my state legislature is only on session January to April on that excuse.
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Ogmius815 posted:Appellate courts are so loving lazy. What do you think it would be like if trial judges took a break for three months a year? SCOTUS is the only federal appellate court that takes a summer break; the others all continue in session year round. They also usually take longer to issue opinions, with delays of a year or more not uncommon.
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coelomate posted:It's important that the supreme court has a summer break, because of farming season. It's not "farming season", it's "Washington is too goddamn hot in the summer for us Northeasterners* and we have to get back to the Cold Lands for reasons" season. *political center of gravity in the US for quite some time.
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ulmont posted:It's not "farming season", it's "Washington is too goddamn hot in the summer for us Northeasterners* and we have to get back to the Cold Lands for reasons" season. This of course seems bizarre now because Philly/NYC/Boston get just as hot and humid.
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EDIT: Nevermind, apparently that's a myth and I should check these things before posting them.
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Jun 8, 2022 01:25
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SCOTUS judges back when also rode circuit when the SCOTUS wasn't in session instead of loving off to one ethics violating Federalist Society
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hobbesmaster posted:This of course seems bizarre now because Philly/NYC/Boston get just as hot and humid. hahahaha no. Washington, DC is a literal swamp and you can't spend more than an hour there in a summer without hearing "it's not the heat, it's the humidity." Summer is breezy by comparison (although the breeze will often smell like rotting trash).
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Lemniscate Blue posted:EDIT: Nevermind, apparently that's a myth and I should check these things before posting them. coelomate posted:hahahaha no. Washington, DC is a literal swamp
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it's not a swamp anymore, but it was clearly a swamp. two rivers meet there, there's tons of water all over. it's gonna be super swampy
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"hmm but you see in 1832 there was a grain silo" yeah okay dude i'm sure those rivers always were exactly in the same place forever and it was always a big flat dry glistening marble plateau and actually basic hydrology very much respects the bedrock foundations of our democracy
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Welp, I was wrong on the internet. TIL D.C. is not and never has been a real swamp. I have subjectively suffered more during summers in DC than NYC, and lived with people telling me (a) it's a swamp, and (b) it's not the heat, it's the humidity. They have lied to me and so made a liar of me.
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It's not like we get a dry heat in the Boston area. https://twitter.com/buffalocialism/status/1534245126943518720?s=20&t=-g0YIylltQZZI6GJkkEfIg
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coelomate posted:Welp, I was wrong on the internet. TIL D.C. is not and never has been a real swamp. Not to get bogged down in the details, but yeah it's actually a wetland-area in a humid sub-tropical climate, so get it right! The National Mall isn't "built in a swamp", it's an artificial landscape constructed over a heavily-silted riparian zone. Sure DC is considered one of the most mosquito-infested cities in the country, but that's just because the shallow sewers, abandoned canals, and ample water features and non-native landscaping have catalyzed the natural marsh ecology. Thankfully we have an array of bog experts available to free us from this quagmire of technicalities.
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FlamingLiberal posted:More decisions are being released at 10 eastern Oh that's just fuckin great.
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This was the only opinion released today https://twitter.com/scotusblog/status/1534536175473631235?s=21&t=kIkNxMzt5vfL_sd3ou180Q
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What's the official last day the court has to release decisions? I get the feeling they're going to release 20 that day.
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FlamingLiberal posted:This was the only opinion released today I always enjoy reading the opinions where they rattle off all the times they were wrong and then go "so we must be wrong here too".
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Meatball posted:What's the official last day the court has to release decisions? I get the feeling they're going to release 20 that day. There is no official date, but opinions generally go through late june at the earliest, probably early july Piell fucked around with this message at 15:27 on Jun 8, 2022 |
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Meatball posted:What's the official last day the court has to release decisions? I get the feeling they're going to release 20 that day. They make their own rules. There isn't one. We will probably not get all the decisions until mid July.
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Meatball posted:What's the official last day the court has to release decisions? I get the feeling they're going to release 20 that day.
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This is what happens when people don't have meaningful power. Kavanaugh was "asking for it," to paraphrase something he has probably said after frat parties.
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