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TheFlyingLlama posted:you are absolutely correct that a lot of it is old bureaucrats getting mad and saying things that sound like a bigger deal than it ends up being, but The Untamed having to take what was pretty explicitly a relationship in MDZS and turn it into "okay still pretty obviously a relationship if you have any background in LGBTQ media but they're pretending it's a brotherhood thing"...which was then followed by more mostly useless bitching about it doesn't really make me think of a government that's thrilled with the idea of that kind of working being popular. pretending lgbtq+ stuff is a "brotherhood" thing is also followed by people who don't have that knowledge and context yelling at people who do, for being into "incest"
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Jun 7, 2022 11:14
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Really interesting writeup about LGBT+ slash fiction on china's internet post AO3's ban. https://chaoyang.substack.com/p/jokerfied-fandom?s=r S02 Episode 8: Jokerfied on Literary Pornhub posted:In 2020, the fanfiction site AO3 ("Archive of Our Own") was blocked in China. Long a safe haven for the country's diverse strands of erotica, fan works and danmei literature, its disappearance behind the Firewall was devastating. The furious drama surrounding the block spilled over into mainstream culture. When the dust settled, the question on everyone's mind was: what now?
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Jun 7, 2022 11:24
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I think there's some cynicism towards "China bans so and so" not only because there's a tendency to see a bunch of those news are usually dismantled in some way when it actually gets to people who actually interact with China (Genshin Impact changing the sexuality of some of the characters from LGBT to somewhat asexual comes to mind, Korean BL dramas getting a lot of traction on those markets), but its how they tend to be deployed in either this "Look at how stupid you babies are for liking gay stuff" or "You cannot criticism homophobia in the west, because-" fashion. Anyone can post that picture of the Raytheon socks with the rainbow and brown stripes and turn that into a rorsarch test of what are your intentions by showcasing that pic.
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Jun 7, 2022 14:12
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World of Warcraft talk was two pages ago, but there is a highly recommended write-up that lists every little controversy about the MMO, expansion after expansion. It also talks about the other Blizzard properties they ran into the ground. https://www.reddit.com/r/HobbyDrama/comments/riq4fq/games_world_of_warcraft_part_1_beta_and_vanilla/ Inspector Gesicht fucked around with this message at 16:38 on Jun 7, 2022 |
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Jun 7, 2022 14:37
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RareAcumen posted:Jesse Faden, Aloy, Harley Quinn, and Tifa are my favorite girlbosses. Jesse Faden is less of a girlboss and more of a "It's okay to be a weirdo" kinda lady. The main plot of Control wasn't the best but those characters were fantastic and Faden is one of my favorite protagonists in a video game.
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Jun 7, 2022 15:15
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Jimbot posted:Jesse Faden is less of a girlboss and more of a "It's okay to be a weirdo" kinda lady. The main plot of Control wasn't the best but those characters were fantastic and Faden is one of my favorite protagonists in a video game. I really like how everyone else in that game is just "Oh, you're the new director? Ok then" with no follow ups.
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Jun 7, 2022 15:22
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https://twitter.com/DanRyckert/status/1534176986087702529?t=y9YbseCTDyte2-hdfhOftw&s=19
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Jun 7, 2022 15:46
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Fil5000 posted:I really like how everyone else in that game is just "Oh, you're the new director? Ok then" with no follow ups. she was already cleared by the board and more importantly the facilities manager, no one’s second-guessing that
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Jun 7, 2022 16:37
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Jeffs going solo https://twitter.com/Nibellion/status/1534200766801616897
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Jun 7, 2022 16:59
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gPUdfL4IWs
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Jun 7, 2022 17:13
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May talking about House of Leaves: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bt9HwUtTFrQ
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Jun 7, 2022 17:18
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Is "girlboss" supposed to be a positive or negative term? I see it used both ways.
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Jun 7, 2022 18:21
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Kaiser Mazoku posted:Is "girlboss" supposed to be a positive or negative term? I see it used both ways. It depends on who's using the term.
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Jun 7, 2022 18:41
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Kaiser Mazoku posted:Is "girlboss" supposed to be a positive or negative term? I see it used both ways. I believe it was originally coined as a positive but it's since turned into a pejorative for just reinforcing traditional power structures. It's very "MORE FEMALE GUARDS AT GUANTANAMO," basically.
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Jun 7, 2022 18:42
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Contextual positivity. I'm find with assertive female characters taking control of their own lives. I'm not fine with Disney throwing up press junkets to pat themselves on the back for a job well done before telling us go watch their movies because they support the women Disney will readily throw under the bus if it's expedient. Essentially the difference between a genuine grassroots effort to promote women versus cynical marketing targeting those grassroots efforts in order to make a brand more palatable to a broader audience. Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 18:52 on Jun 7, 2022 |
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Jun 7, 2022 18:45
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Yeah, even as someone who's jaded about the term I wouldn't necessarily use it for Leia in that Kenobi show, personally. More for like, a landlord or something.
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Jun 7, 2022 18:48
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Arist posted:I believe it was originally coined as a positive but it's since turned into a pejorative for just reinforcing traditional power structures. It's very "MORE FEMALE GUARDS AT GUANTANAMO," basically. I thought it was when one of the poster children for girlboss on social media got outed as being a horrifically abusive and toxic person to her employees. Like, the person who "girlboss" was coined for in some Vanity Fair article. It was Sophia Amoruso the person who literally wrote the #Girlboss book.
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Jun 7, 2022 18:59
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Oxxidation posted:she was already cleared by the board and more importantly the facilities manager, no one’s second-guessing that Oh I know, I just think it gets across really economically that this place is loving weird and all you can do is go with it.
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Jun 7, 2022 19:03
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My other favorite girlbosses are Togemon, Garudamon, Isabelle from Animal Crossing, Gondul, Shiva and Cackletta
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Jun 7, 2022 19:33
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also malenia, the goddess of rot
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Jun 7, 2022 22:22
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Cersei Lannister is a girlboss
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Jun 7, 2022 23:30
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Girlboss as a term is dying of Karen disease (misuse by garden variety misogyny in a way that eclipses the original meaning of the term.)
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Jun 7, 2022 23:39
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girlboss was always a cynical Lean In style bullshit term, the fact that it got made fun of wasn't misogyny considering most of the people doing poo poo like 'gaslight, gatekeep, girlboss' memes are in fact women who were the audience that poo poo was sold to and all. You can't 'misuse' it because it was always a complete fabrication.
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Jun 7, 2022 23:48
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That doesn't actually contradict what I said
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Jun 8, 2022 03:18
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The 2010's were an amazing decade; Lady Butterfly and Lady Maria, girlbosses of a generation.
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Jun 8, 2022 03:24
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I feel like "girlboss" has different meanings depending on one's general cultural setting. I most commonly see it in anti-MLM stuff used sarcastically to describe how MLMs prey on women who want/need a source of income (and in MLM stuff to describe women working in the MLM). I've also seen it used in feminism stuff to describe promoting women to positions of power while keeping an overall oppressive system in place. I've also seen it in office supply stores used without a hint of irony on various decorations, so apparently someone is still using it without irony. It's one of those terms that, if you're not already connected to the group using them, have a kind of nebulous and unclear definition. (Kind of like how, apparently, a lot of people think "Karen" means "bossy lady who is a stickler for the rules and trying to ruin our fun  ")I think it's hard to come up with a term that's critical of something associated with women without that term fairly quickly getting stretched into "women suck!" because of how language and culture work. It'd probably require a lot more strict policing of the language than most people really want to bother with.
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Jun 8, 2022 03:40
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RareAcumen posted:The 2010's were an amazing decade; Lady Butterfly and Lady Maria, girlbosses of a generation.
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Jun 8, 2022 03:42
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Arist posted:Yeah, even as someone who's jaded about the term I wouldn't necessarily use it for Leia in that Kenobi show, personally. More for like, a landlord or something. Honestly I was just making GBS threads around to see if a discussion besides China Discourse would start. I am amazed and appreciative that it started something besides Star Wars chat though.
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Jun 8, 2022 03:47
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OK I'm gonna interrupt the China censorship/girlboss debate to share a reaction vid to an extremely  tiktok about Atlantishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YfM2SHX-Gg Also birbception https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsIDEucfTHE
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Jun 8, 2022 03:48
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Ghostlight posted:ten years earlier it was lady marmalade Right! GLADOS, Bayonetta and Cynthia how could I forget!
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Jun 8, 2022 03:52
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i always thought it was the UAE not china
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Jun 8, 2022 04:50
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Arist posted:Yeah, even as someone who's jaded about the term I wouldn't necessarily use it for Leia in that Kenobi show, personally. More for like, a landlord or something. Kenobi Leia is a larval girlboss, as will be further discussed in my upcoming treatise, "The Taxonomy of the Girlboss".
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Jun 8, 2022 04:51
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Lotus Aura posted:May talking about House of Leaves: Glad I found time to watch it. Nice little analysis if nothing earth shattering, but it's nice to have around since people really love to oversell how complicated the book is. Since it's come up, it was weird to see in the comments to the video and the original tweet how many people insist that it was the scariest book that they'd ever read or something else about how crazy it was. And all I could think was that I read it, thought it was neat and experimental, read a few of the follow-up things online and moved on thinking that it was neat and immersive but that was about it.
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Jun 8, 2022 09:24
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Parakeet vs. Phone posted:Glad I found time to watch it. Nice little analysis if nothing earth shattering, but it's nice to have around since people really love to oversell how complicated the book is. I think the Navidson record is genuinely creepy and well done, and a lot of creepy pasta writers have been living off that idea since. Anything where something is bigger on the inside than the outside is a ticket to spooksville. I don't think the book is *that* complicated, but it can definitely be overwhelming given the scattershot nature of some of the material (is what you're reading real, or are you reading a broken man's commentary on something that was fake, and maybe he's fake too), and that's before you get to the weird formatting. I liked it though, and found some of the other threads occasionally moving, or just outright sad. On that note, the script he wrote for a TV adaptation was wild and somehow managed to work as an extension of the book itself.
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Jun 8, 2022 09:43
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Apropos of nothing, Johnny Truant was a huge loving whiner. Who interrupts a fascinating horror story with their mopings about prescription drugs and women? Most literary and golden-age science fiction writers, sure, but it's easy to see why people skip his part.
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Jun 8, 2022 13:27
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Apropos of nothing, Johnny Truant was a huge loving whiner. Who interrupts a fascinating horror story with their mopings about prescription drugs and women? Most literary and golden-age science fiction writers, sure, but it's easy to see why people skip his part. Truant owns because 'rando tattoo artist LA dude who finds an absolutely strange and unnerving item in his new home and dives into the inherent horror of another human's mind, but also pauses every few scenes to mumble something about how the prescriptions made his ex a total bitch' is one of the most realistic characters in modern horror.
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Jun 8, 2022 13:58
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broke: Lovecraft writing about some nebbish bookbinder going mad as the endless chattering of rats in his walls frays his perception of reality bespoke: some dude interrupts the claustrophobic horror of going mad in his own home as he delves into the ruins of a stranger's mind to tell the reader he totally hosed the hot girl at the bar next to his shop
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Jun 8, 2022 14:01
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I read the companion book The Whalestoe Letters (which is Johnny truant 's mother writing letters to him, not realizing she is confined for an indefinite period for nearly killing him) and i thought it was alright and gave some nice background to his character
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Jun 8, 2022 14:15
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Hahaha maybe I should read it again. At the time I was warned about the Truant stuff but I never minded it all that much. Sure I thought it was invasive in parts but some of that was by design.
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Jun 8, 2022 14:16
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Metis of the Hallways posted:Kenobi Leia is a larval girlboss, as will be further discussed in my upcoming treatise, "The Taxonomy of the Girlboss". Whills, Midichlorians, and Girlbosses: A Star Wars Story
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