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Not a day action, don't modkill me, Jesus. Aight, ok, so. If Maer is a SK this is going to be fun - mislunch, double kill tomorrow and 1/1/1, no-lunch and bloodbath by night  . I'd actually want to see that, winning be damned.Anyway. I trust you, fully, tbh. I think this Maerlyn posted:You may wish you had shot me... is as close as a post written from heart as I've seen from you as of late, lol. I don't think a SK PGO fakeclaims surv - just claim town PGO, why not. They exist. So yeah. If we are right, we all win. If we are wrong... well, YOU win, nobody is going to NK you, and tomorrow you will be unvoteable so lol. You've kinda earned it anyway!
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Hi my name is Alex, I'm a PGO.
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If we mislunch Lotus and I die tonight, FFS go vote Sand tomorrow!!!!!!!!
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Jun 8, 2022 06:14
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Even a double kill tonight by any means (I hope we have all kill sources identified!) would just move us to 1/1/1, so yeah, Maer would be Kingmaker, but there would be one more day. I'm overthinking this, I'll hammer, just not sure if I want to wait for Hal or someone else to pool thoughts.
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Jun 8, 2022 06:26
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Well, alright, screw it. Let's go and not prolong this any further. Either we win here or tomorrow's LYLO and we should have Sand nailed then. Hey Maer, if I die tonight... remember me, will you? Lol. ##vote Lotus
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Jun 8, 2022 06:50
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Shellception posted:Not a day action, don't modkill me, Jesus. If it had been anyone else looking for me I wouldn't have said anything, and honestly I would have killed you when you started earnestly mentioning how I should be voted out sooner rather than later. I'm a bit surprised Lotus didn't pull the "I gunsmithed Mae, proving she's not a PGO" but maybe it's too risky to claim that after this much time has passed.
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Jun 8, 2022 06:59
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Maerlyn posted:If it had been anyone else looking for me I wouldn't have said anything, and honestly I would have killed you when you started earnestly mentioning how I should be voted out sooner rather than later. Well, that was the best course of action, mathemathically speaking. We now know a few things - barring a very unexpected surprise, Lotus or Sand are scum. (the only possibility for neither being is a redirector who could move results off the cop and into themselves, while also killing Binus. That could happen. But if that was to happen, we have no way to know or prevent it. Lotus would be redirected whatever else we said because they'd be the only living cop, so silence helped no-one but scum. We needed Hal to know Lotus' target and that could only be arranged in thread) It's risky as gently caress to leave this in the hands of a surv and... well, had it been anyone else, I'd have been way more vocal. But the alternative, lunching you, would still leave us with a gigantic D4 mess. I'm just an idiot, what can I say?
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Jun 8, 2022 07:07
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Maerlyn posted:If it had been anyone else looking for me I wouldn't have said anything, and honestly I would have killed you when you started earnestly mentioning how I should be voted out sooner rather than later. I'd say you'd have killed me when you first became paranoid I could still shoot you, tbh.
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Jun 8, 2022 07:18
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Lotus Aura posted:Quick question here, DB. Literally when? Maerlyn's the only one who asked for extra details about it. Lotus Aura posted:...Missed sentence at the end there: Lotus Aura posted:Hal's thing is just confusing. The joking implication that he's scum straight up doesn't work, yeah, so then what? He tracked someone to Maer? Doubt it, Nep flipped Tracker already, and it's unlikely there' d be two. He watched Maer? I think we can all agree it's definitely not that either. to be fair this was after Hal claimed to have knowledge of night things but before the full claim
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well I guess I didn't need to elaborate because Lotus is dead now, but there's your answer, bye 
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Jun 8, 2022 11:28
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Lotus, Robert Patrick Modell, Town Aligned Gunsmith, was killed D3 It is now N3
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Awesome. gently caress me I guess, been wrong from the beginning. I'm sorry.
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At this point, it has to be Sand. Lotus wasn't lying, now we are sure of that. I wish we'd found out differently, they played a great game, but eh. At worst we're staring at a 50-50 coin toss. I really, really doubt it, though. We know there is no busdriver, because one scum rammed into Maer and died. For that to happen, their own target would need to have been swapped - but scums knew that. While not impossible, it'd be sloppy. There can be a redirector. Someone who moved Nep's objective into Maer (accidentally getting Nep killed) and Lotus' objective into the remaining scum. We cannot really know, I think. For this to be viable, tho, the NK would need to be a free action. Or four scums, but if so, we lost a good time ago. So yeah, probably a good re-read is in order. But the simplest answer is that Sand is scum, tbh. I do
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I don't what I do, lol. That's some residual thought. Hal is very very very probably town, and Lotus flipping town does confirm this. He caught the Lotus cop breadcrumb early, didn't say anything, but scums did not try to kill Lotus at any point. And they could! Hal never mentioned the crumb until he got his night results. Nobody would know he found a cop. Maer wins whatever happens - so I guess, congratulations. I am town. It's Sand... or it's DB as a redirector.
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Jun 8, 2022 15:09
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Jun 8, 2022 15:22
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I think DB needs to claim. Is it Hal who knew I was a PGO because he knew where tpink went? That doesn't explain Lotus result on Sand though. Maybe it is DB?
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The breadcrumb thing is a good point actually...so Sand or DB.
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Jun 8, 2022 15:27
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Shellception posted:If we mislunch Lotus and I die tonight, FFS go vote Sand tomorrow!!!!!!!! Aye aye.
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Jun 8, 2022 15:41
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What did Nep think of you, Maer? (Had to be the replacing-in player, of course)
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wow ok, it's ##vote Sandwolf then (sorry lotus!!)Lotus Aura posted:It does also require me to, well, not suicide-by-Maerlyn. And any use from it is sorta predicated on people believing my results when I inevitably do not get nightkilled but, I dunno... it's worth a shot, maybe? Lotus Aura posted:Sandwolf is a killer, man. I, Dickard Bastardino, am Edmund Peacock (a sick motherfucker) who's only power is to vote and have sex with my mom producing freak offspring whom are both my sons and brothers.
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Jun 8, 2022 15:45
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Maerlyn posted:I think DB needs to claim. I think a general claim needs to happen now, yeah. Flavor probably, too, ain't nobody gonna kill you for that.
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Jun 8, 2022 15:45
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Dick Bastardly posted:wow ok, it's ##vote Sandwolf then (sorry lotus!!) I'd wait until day to vote but that's just me, lol.
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Jun 8, 2022 15:45
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Also now I kinda regret looking that guy up. Ew.
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##unvote oops, i hope im not freaking out Votefinder's robot brain with that night vote. I may or may not get killed this night, but yeah... Scumwolf all up in here
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Jun 8, 2022 15:48
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Shellception posted:What did Nep think of you, Maer? "Feel good about". That's the only comment Nep made about Maer, but it's pre-Grandi flip. Given Maer didn't vote Grandi, and given Nep has both played and scummed with Maer and knows a) she is loving good scum and b) she is very very reluctant to bus, it's completely possible Nep wanted to track Maer. Whatdya think, Mae? You know Nep way better than I do. I always seem to end up the opposite alignment from her somehow.
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Jun 8, 2022 15:57
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I can see her wanting to track me but she didn't seem to say anything about me that I can remember. It's difficult with a sub in. I was more suspicious of her (I'd have to see what she posted N1).
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Lol I mean obviously I think it’s sand, but I guess the DB thing is possible
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Shellception posted:"Feel good about". That's the only comment Nep made about Maer, but it's pre-Grandi flip. Also it’s possible whatever role enforcer is forces whoever visits them to also visit their target so Nep Nep was visiting tpink
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Maerlyn posted:I can see her wanting to track me but she didn't seem to say anything about me that I can remember. It's difficult with a sub in. I was more suspicious of her (I'd have to see what she posted N1). Not much, I checked. I see her wanting to track you, too, though that actually doesn't tell us much - for what we know, even if a redirector was in the game, Nep could have gone for you and they could have just picked someone with no powers to move.
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Hal Insandenza posted:Lol I mean obviously I think it’s sand, but I guess the DB thing is possible I'm here too. Like, it's possible, if there was a redirector, if they also had a free night kill action. Or it's possible that Lotus was right on their target, and went along with the plan from tje beginning. I kinda feel like the idea (well my idea) was to flip them and then flip their target, too, so, eh. I'd go Sand. If nothing else I cannot see much to tell them apart, and I feel like I owe Lotus to trust them. I still want to reread some things.
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As an additional data point, we know Lotus also wasn't redirected N1. They checked tpink, and didn't see anything odd, presumably got a "can kill" result, which makes zero sense to redirect into. Lotus Aura posted:It is very silly, because my target was also... too convenient. I checked tpink, though, not Nep. Toal checked Nep, and also saw nothing odd, but that one is less telling since there are more town than scum in the game anyway.
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Hal Insandenza posted:Also it’s possible whatever role enforcer is forces whoever visits them to also visit their target so Nep Nep was visiting tpink Who are you, Hal? Call it curiosity at this point. I think the fact that you knew there was a cop in the game, and that cop wasn't killed, nor redirected, is enough to prop you up to town status.
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Shell, Alien Bounty Hunter, Town Aligned Vig, was Killed N3 It is now D4
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Votecount for Day 4 Not Voting (4): Dick Bastardly, Hal Insandenza, Maerlyn, SandwolfWith 4 alive, it's 3 votes to execute. The current deadline is June 10th, 2022 at 9 p.m. PDT -- that's in about 2 days, 10 hours.
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Shellception posted:Who are you, Hal? Call it curiosity at this point. I think the fact that you knew there was a cop in the game, and that cop wasn't killed, nor redirected, is enough to prop you up to town status. Luther Lee Boggs
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2 town, 1 scum, 1 me Sand you rapscallion. I will vote Sand as asked and promised but I am mulling the idea of a redirect and no need to blow through this very minute.
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Maerlyn if I could have run an action into you last night to make this lylo fair I would have. I think it’s Hal, the “medium” role is way too powerful with a dozen cops. My theory is he just got tpink’s result as his scum bud and built this theory around it. I need to at least try and prevent Hal winning here. Motherfucker just won goose game this way.
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I guess it could be DB, I’m not totally convinced it’s not, but Hal’s role with Hal’s play feels like he found a safe claim and has managed to ride that the entire game.
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Honestly I think it's Sand. If it were DB he wouldn't give two shits about killing Shell and would have done so earlier. Sand and Shell are buds and Shell doesn't get to play much, I could see Sand leaving her alive. I'm gonna reread Hal though too.
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Oh Sandwolf, such a beautiful boy, sad to see it end like this
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