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Ross, Heenan and Gorilla Monsoon.
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Halloween Jack posted:I'm trying to think of announcers I liked less than Lawler, and not coming up with anything. Fuckin Mark Madden. Ed Ferrara in TNA. Most bad commentators I can tune out if they're just standard bad commentators but those two were the worst. Main roster Corey Graves comes close as does Pat McAfee. I think I'd have to go with Heenan, Tony, and Excalibur if they were all in their primes. Maybe swap Excal for Joey Styles. I'd almost go with a Heenan/Monsoon combo but Monsoon had hits and misses at times.
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Jun 8, 2022 15:25
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Tony Schiavone, Bobby Heenan and "Iron" Mike Tenay. (Larry Zbyszko in the first hour.)
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Jun 8, 2022 15:32
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I think I’ll go with Heenan as the heel, Kevin Kelly as the face, and Excalibur as the knowledge base.
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Jun 8, 2022 15:52
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Ganso Bomb posted:Fuckin Mark Madden. Ed Ferrara in TNA. Most bad commentators I can tune out if they're just standard bad commentators but those two were the worst.
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Jun 8, 2022 15:54
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Thanks to that video of Killer Kross doing an amazing Jesse Ventura impression, I am thinking Jesse and Excalibur would have been an amazing combination
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Jun 8, 2022 15:57
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Halloween Jack posted:They were certainly terrible, but have you considered THE PUPPIES! THE PUPPIES! THE PUPPIES! In the most annoying voice ever possessed by a human whose initials don't contain two J's I have, but Madden was horny and gross on another level entirely and Ferrara was (as I recall) terrible as a baseline and also wildly and overtly sexist in a different way than Lawler. They're all very bad, just different shades of the same pile of poo poo.
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Jun 8, 2022 15:58
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I will say that Jesse is a VERY close second to Heenan as the heel. Brain was good at a lot of things but Jesse was really good at being an rear end in a top hat.
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Jun 8, 2022 16:08
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Jesse was still really good when they brought him back for that reunion Raw in 2010, enough so you could tell Vince was incredibly annoyed that Jesse was talking circles around him on commentary
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Jun 8, 2022 16:11
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Admiral Joeslop posted:What's your ideal three person commentary team? My limited experience goes right to prime Jim Ross, Bobby Heenan, and Mike Tenay. King and Ross had a great dynamic but King is really gross. My gold standard is still Kevin Kelly, Chris Charlton and Rocky Romero, followed by Kevin, Chris and Chuck Taylor (or ELP, or Chris Sabin). So really those two guys with a wrestler for color, Kevin does the play by play and Chris gives us history and promo translations
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Jun 8, 2022 16:36
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3 people on commentary is too much Give me Gorilla Monsoon and Bobby Heenan or Gorilla Monsoon and Jesse Ventura
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Jun 8, 2022 16:45
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Rewatches through 90s Nitro I don't really like Heenan or Steve McMichael on commentary but I actually like Eric Bischoff.
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Jun 8, 2022 16:55
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Ganso Bomb posted:Fuckin Mark Madden. Ed Ferrara in TNA. Most bad commentators I can tune out if they're just standard bad commentators but those two were the worst. Main roster Corey Graves comes close as does Pat McAfee. I'd say that maybe don't swap out Excalibur, Joey Styles is kind of rough if you actually go back & watch ECW. Admiral Joeslop posted:What's your ideal three person commentary team? My limited experience goes right to prime Jim Ross, Bobby Heenan, and Mike Tenay. King and Ross had a great dynamic but King is really gross. This is not the greatest commentary team of all time, but it there was something about Larry Sweeney & Ultramantis Black on commentary in Chikara which was always enjoyable. As for a play-by-play guy to put them with, Excalibur is the best.
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Jun 8, 2022 17:07
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Going back and listening to Monsoon now is uncomfortable for how often he feels the need to joke about ongoing child molestation live on air.
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Jun 8, 2022 17:11
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Give me Kevin Gill, Chris Brookes, and Taz
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Admiral Joeslop posted:What's your ideal three person commentary team? My limited experience goes right to prime Jim Ross, Bobby Heenan, and Mike Tenay. King and Ross had a great dynamic but King is really gross. Excalibur/Taz/Chuck Taylor or Excalibur/Taz/A Chuck Taylor Cardboard Cutout that Taz and Ex are forced to pretend is real.
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Jun 8, 2022 17:20
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my ideal team is someone who knows all the moves, someone who knows what's going on out in the streets today, and someone who says 30 words per show
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Jun 8, 2022 17:26
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Any territories era heads, what can you tell me about a WWWF on MSG Network match between Bob Backlund & Greg Valentine from 19/2/1979? I was looking on Cagematch at the top rated WWE matches on there out to see what I'd put above Cena Umaga Last Man Standing & I noticed that this was the top ranked WWWF/WWF/WWE match on there. In fact it's the 15th highest rated match of all time, & everyone who has rated it has given it a 10. And yet I don't remember having ever heard of it before this. So does anyone know the deal with this? Didn't just appear on the WWE Network/Peacock recently? Because the oldest review on Cagematch is from last year, but 11 of the 13 reviews are from this year. Was someone pimping it on a podcast or something?
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Jun 8, 2022 17:28
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Cavauro posted:my ideal team is someone who knows all the moves, someone who knows what's going on out in the streets today, and someone who says 30 words per show Excalibur, Taz, and Mark Henry?
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Jun 8, 2022 17:37
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don't know
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Admiral Joeslop posted:What's your ideal three person commentary team? My limited experience goes right to prime Jim Ross, Bobby Heenan, and Mike Tenay. King and Ross had a great dynamic but King is really gross. King is too gross to overlook, Monsoon is too gross to overlook, so I'm going to go largely in line with the thread consensus and say JR, Heenan and Excalibur. If I get a second team for the secondary show, give me Excalibur again with Schiavone and Ventura.
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Jun 8, 2022 17:45
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Rob Bartlett and Corey Graves imo
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Jun 8, 2022 17:47
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It'd be interesting to see how Ventura would interplay with Excalibur, a big part of his shtick is admonishing pbp guys for having never been in the ring which he couldn't pull with Ex
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Jun 8, 2022 18:30
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I actually immediately envisioned him berating Excalibur for not having been in the ring with "real men back in the day" so clearly this pairing is developing nicely
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Jun 8, 2022 18:44
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ventura keeps on making GBS threads on excalibur for not being in the ring and excalibur mentions a match he was in where something similar happened to whatever he was talking about. ventura says, "horse poo poo" afterward, uncensored. that's a good bit to do over and over. horse poo poo
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Jun 8, 2022 18:45
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Cavauro posted:ventura keeps on making GBS threads on excalibur for not being in the ring and excalibur mentions a match he was in where something similar happened to whatever he was talking about. ventura says, "horse poo poo" afterward, uncensored. that's a good bit to do over and over. horse poo poo Yeah that's good
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Jun 8, 2022 18:46
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Ventura: You may have been in the ring but were you any good? Excalibur: Were you?
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How was Ventura as a wrestler? I don't think I've ever seen a match of his. And were he and Hogan purposely kept away from one another? I know they couldn't wrestle because Jesse was retired, but I've never even seen clips of him interviewing Hogan or anything.
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Jun 8, 2022 19:05
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What similar stories are there to Bret and DBry where their technical work overcame any limitation in character work or the stories they where given to basically propel them into main event level stuff instead of ending up as king of the midcard that people like Mr. Perfect where relegated to.
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Jun 8, 2022 19:24
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Pope Corky the IX posted:How was Ventura as a wrestler? I don't think I've ever seen a match of his. And were he and Hogan purposely kept away from one another? I know they couldn't wrestle because Jesse was retired, but I've never even seen clips of him interviewing Hogan or anything. Jesse was, like Hogan, a carbon copy of Superstar Graham. Great physique, good talker, kinda bleh/outright bad in the ring.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:I think Morrisons Starship Pain was innovated in his time there. Ganso Bomb posted:I have, but Madden was horny and gross on another level entirely and Ferrara was (as I recall) terrible as a baseline and also wildly and overtly sexist in a different way than Lawler. They're all very bad, just different shades of the same pile of poo poo. But my pet hatred is Matt Striker. In addition to being utterly irritating with his dumb obscure references, and waxing poetic to prove how educated he is, he also doesn't do his research on the wrestlers so a lot of his commentary is pure bullshit. AND he's a QAnon conspiracy idiot on top of all that. Impact got noticeably more watchable after they axed him from the table.
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What would be the worst possible combination at the commentary table? My vote is: Matt Striker on play by play, Stevie Ray and Mark Madden in the 2nd and 3rd seat
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I feel like you need someone else doing PBP so that Striker can focus on his longwinded references to geeky poo poo that don't put anyone over.
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Pinche Rudo posted:What would be the worst possible combination at the commentary table? My vote is: Matt Striker on play by play, Stevie Ray and Mark Madden in the 2nd and 3rd seat Zybysko, King, Gorilla. That's two heels so kinda cheating but
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Pinche Rudo posted:What would be the worst possible combination at the commentary table? My vote is: Matt Striker on play by play, Stevie Ray and Mark Madden in the 2nd and 3rd seat Cole, Lawler, and that bald guy on RAW who looks like great value Joe Rogan.
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Jun 8, 2022 21:40
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Pinche Rudo posted:What would be the worst possible combination at the commentary table? My vote is: Matt Striker on play by play, Stevie Ray and Mark Madden in the 2nd and 3rd seat Vince on pbp, Madden and Steve McMichael on color
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Jun 8, 2022 21:42
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Larry Zybysko on PBP Michael Cole on colour Matt Stryker trying to do both as well at the same time
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I’d love to see Ranallo do a guest spot for a AEW show. He’s not an all the time commentator, but he’s good to have as a treat on occasion. Forbidden Door would be a good one for him. He’d really sell the New Japan guys to the segment of the audience that doesn’t know who they are.
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Pinche Rudo posted:What would be the worst possible combination at the commentary table? My vote is: Matt Striker on play by play, Stevie Ray and Mark Madden in the 2nd and 3rd seat I think the worst combo already happened at least once and it was Shane McMahon and Jim Cornette.
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Heel Cole was the worst announcer I have ever seen. Like there are bad announcers, and then there's this guy going an entire show nonstop yelling about how it all sucks why is anyone watching
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