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sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

DrVenkman posted:

Hahaha maybe I should read it again. At the time I was warned about the Truant stuff but I never minded it all that much. Sure I thought it was invasive in parts but some of that was by design.

yea shitposting aside I do think it genuinely works well because, yea, he's meant to seem like a very self absorbed unreliable narrator and 'LA douchebag who keeps taking a break from the narrative to say 'maybe the pills ARE the disease MAN' apropos of nothing' is very good to do that.

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Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Everybody shut up, Atun-Shei has a new CHECKMATE, LINCOLNITES. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjsxhYetLM0

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


Dawgstar posted:

Everybody shut up, Atun-Shei has a new CHECKMATE, LINCOLNITES. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjsxhYetLM0

Shocked that he hasn't covered the states' rights myth before, but this is some good content nevertheless :discourse:

Terrible Opinions
Oct 18, 2013



He has but it was in a shorter less in depth one from ages ago.

Puppy Time
Mar 1, 2005


Archaeologist Raven talks mummies and the mindset around displaying human remains in museums:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-3ILcgDFrg

DeafNote
Jun 4, 2014

Only Happy When It Rains
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cd8Pg8q_2Qs

Brows Held High/Kyle with a new video on The Name of The Rose and Umberto Eco himself.

Puppy Time
Mar 1, 2005


Speaking of girl bosses, Savy Leiser reacts to Jenna Kutcher's advertising copy for her new book:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAntfiHnaRs

If you're into the super energetic and hyper youtube presenter style but still want someone kind of down to earth, Savy's a pretty great presenter.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Mil-Dread drops a great video on The Exorcist and how they don't get scared by it but it's still good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyTWaWh5ALw

Gertrude Perkins
May 1, 2010

Gun Snake

dont talk to gun snake

Drops: human teeth

DeafNote posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cd8Pg8q_2Qs

Brows Held High/Kyle with a new video on The Name of The Rose and Umberto Eco himself.

I really enjoyed this, having coincidentally finished the book recently. This video contains a great crash course on basic semiotics, then uses it to complicate the popular understanding of Eco's work on fascism, as well as drill down to the core ideas of the book, and Kyle gets some very good little jokes in too. I agree with the statement that movies need more weird gross old men.

Puppy Time
Mar 1, 2005


Yeah, as someone who hasn't read Eco and has a lot of trouble with semiotics, that video was interesting and enlightening.

I enjoyed the callback to the terrible Channel Awesome musical times as well

Kaiser Mazoku
Mar 24, 2011

Didn't you see it!? Couldn't you see my "spirit"!?
Youtube demonitized a content creator for pointing out that another creator has been using their platform to spread hate, lies, bigotry, and to harass people in real life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x51aY51rW1A

DeafNote
Jun 4, 2014

Only Happy When It Rains

Kaiser Mazoku posted:

Youtube demonitized a content creator for pointing out that another creator has been using their platform to spread hate, lies, bigotry, and to harass people in real life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x51aY51rW1A

Yeah I have been following that and it makes me absolutely livid and also makes me wish I could do anything about it.

Youtube is clearly trying to stop this from reaching a normal viewerbase.

edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007

DeafNote posted:

Yeah I have been following that and it makes me absolutely livid and also makes me wish I could do anything about it.

Youtube is clearly trying to stop this from reaching a normal viewerbase.

And like with most things of this nature, it's the cover-up that gets you.

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




Kaiser Mazoku posted:

Youtube demonitized a content creator for pointing out that another creator has been using their platform to spread hate, lies, bigotry, and to harass people in real life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x51aY51rW1A

Huh, I wonder if Charlie still brings weird people onto his podcast.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNlKqbRr8II

Oh hey, Wendigoon! And Karl Jobst nearly a year ago, how about that?

Shinji2015
Aug 31, 2007
Keen on the hygiene and on the mission like a super technician.
So who was the ActMan video talking about? I think it may have floated in my front page at one point, but I didn't pay it any attention

Blood Nightmaster
Sep 6, 2011

“また遊んであげるわ!”

Kaiser Mazoku posted:

Youtube demonitized a content creator for pointing out that another creator has been using their platform to spread hate, lies, bigotry, and to harass people in real life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x51aY51rW1A

Well that's heinous, the comments keep mentioning the channel that had been called out as being "Quantum TV" which I've never heard of and frankly don't want to taint my algorithm by looking into :sweatdrop: What's their deal? More white supremacist BS I'm guessing?

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
🍀👽🆚🪖🏋

RareAcumen posted:

Huh, I wonder if Charlie still brings weird people onto his podcast.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNlKqbRr8II

Oh hey, Wendigoon! And Karl Jobst nearly a year ago, how about that?

I don’t know who the heck these people are

Kaiser Mazoku
Mar 24, 2011

Didn't you see it!? Couldn't you see my "spirit"!?

Shinji2015 posted:

So who was the ActMan video talking about? I think it may have floated in my front page at one point, but I didn't pay it any attention

Quantum TV, a person who purportedly produces TV tech guides but in actuality spreads anti-LGBTQ hate speech, steals content from others and passes it off as his own, and doxxes elementary school children.

Here's an r/OutOfTheLoop that sums up the situation:

https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/v7wgm8/whats_going_on_with_the_act_mans_channel_being/

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
yea Quantum nominally does tech stuff but in reality he just spouts insane bigotry and actively harms literal children, but yea gotta protect his dignity from a joke involving a cucumber placed near a mouth.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

edogawa rando posted:

And like with most things of this nature, it's the cover-up that gets you.

Youtube's entire modus operandi is built on the Streisand Effect.

Nuns with Guns
Jul 23, 2010

It's fine.
Don't worry about it.

CelticPredator posted:

I don’t know who the heck these people are

The guy with the long hair and beard in the video is penguinz0/cr1tikal whose irl name is Charles.

Karl Jobst is one of those white nationalist speed runners that are apparently common enough to hang out together in a discord and dominate the Goldeneye speed running community. Wendigoon is a racist TERF, I think, I'm going off memory here.

RareAcumen is saying cr1tikal kind of sucks because he lets lovely people hang out on his podcast.

Ivypls
Aug 24, 2019

wendigoon hasn't shown any racist or transphobic proclivities to my knowledge but he is a conspiracy theories loving guy with a deep fondness for guns and christian texts which is too many red flags for my taste

Puppy Time
Mar 1, 2005


I'm weirded out at the whole Wendigoon thing because my only impression of them before was "extremely dumb and credulous person with lackluster presentation" in the pool of "youtube randos talking about spooky poo poo." I guess I'm not I wouldn't be terribly surprised that they're racist and/or a TERF, just because they seem like the kind of person who'd believe any old thing someone told them.

E: Fixing language in case they're not actually bigoted? They're still dumb as a post.

Impermanent
Apr 1, 2010
i'd love some receipts on wendigoon. the only mark i have against him is being dumb as a box of bricks and doing some of the least researched 'iceberg meme videos' I've seen in my life.

Kaiser Mazoku
Mar 24, 2011

Didn't you see it!? Couldn't you see my "spirit"!?
Wendigoon's fine. At least, he doesn't deserve to be lumped in with Karl Jobst.

His worst crime is getting sorta overeager about subjects he gives a 101-level surface overview of, but it's decent background noise if nothing else.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
yea that's kinda wild to read with nothing to back it up, wendigoon seems dumb and boring but lumping him with Jobst is insane

Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

https://web.archive.org/web/20220411055954/https://twitter.com/wendigoon8/status/1421880295414972417

had to pull up a web archive of it because the original tweet was deleted

this was literally brought up the last time Wendigoon was discussed in this thread

Impermanent
Apr 1, 2010
oh yep there it is. ty for context

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011
this is clearly the more important thing to fixate on

Kaiser Mazoku
Mar 24, 2011

Didn't you see it!? Couldn't you see my "spirit"!?

Alaois posted:

https://web.archive.org/web/20220411055954/https://twitter.com/wendigoon8/status/1421880295414972417

had to pull up a web archive of it because the original tweet was deleted

this was literally brought up the last time Wendigoon was discussed in this thread

Alright yeah this is a horrendously bad take.

Puppy Time
Mar 1, 2005


I mean it's a bad take but I wouldn't take it as them being a TERF. Using transphobic language, sure, but I think talking about Chris Chan in just about any subject probably shouldn't be taken as a person's general views on that subject because Chris Chan is just a big pile of bizarre, extreme examples that don't apply to real life issues because Chris Chan does not live in real life, she lives in a horrible panopticon and bizarre shutin delusions.

Like, it's a lovely, lovely take and not doing anyone any favors, and again I wouldn't be terribly surprised if Wendigoon was some level of transphobe or whatever, but it doesn't seem like evidence of TERFery so much as just... lovely and using the kind of transphobic language that just floats around Western culture as background noise bigotry.

Terrible Opinions
Oct 18, 2013



Given Wendigoon's profound inability to understand any of the real life cultures of beliefs he skims over in his videos, it would not surprise me if he is just repeating the "not really trans because they bad" stuff from Silence of the Lambs.

Nuns with Guns
Jul 23, 2010

It's fine.
Don't worry about it.
I’ll amend my prior post to “He said some grossly transphobic stuff but may not self ID as a TERF.” Because I couldn’t remember everything he said in that tweet and couldn’t find it to check, sorry.

:shrug:

Nuns with Guns fucked around with this message at 04:24 on Jun 10, 2022

Ivypls
Aug 24, 2019

yuck

Max Wilco
Jan 23, 2012

I'm just trying to go through life without looking stupid.

It's not working out too well...

Kaiser Mazoku posted:

Youtube demonitized a content creator for pointing out that another creator has been using their platform to spread hate, lies, bigotry, and to harass people in real life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x51aY51rW1A


I watched Act Man's video before it got taken down (as well as some of his other content). It started out with Quantum TV abusing the Content ID tool to take down videos dunking on his terrible Elden Ring review. He somehow managed to dig up the phone number for Act Man's mom and called her to complain. From there, other stuff started coming to light, like harassing other people in the A/V community, posting a lot of anti-LGBT stuff (from goofy insane stuff like talking about the liberal agenda trying to make him gay, to horrible poo poo like telling someone they 'should have been a Pulse victim'), evading previous bans, etc.

There's another video Act Man did about a month ago on the subject that's still up (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1OWLq2dO2c). The one that got taken down was more point-by-point, detailing how Quantum had violated virtually every rule of YouTube's TOS, but YouTube would not act on any of it. The video wasn't even technically finished; the end was Act Man saying that he had more stuff to cover, but published what he had edited at that point because of travel arrangements.

Via that post, Act Man's channel has now been demonetized, but QuantumTV's channel is still up. It's baffling.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Puppy Time posted:

I mean it's a bad take but I wouldn't take it as them being a TERF. Using transphobic language, sure, but I think talking about Chris Chan in just about any subject probably shouldn't be taken as a person's general views on that subject because Chris Chan is just a big pile of bizarre, extreme examples that don't apply to real life issues because Chris Chan does not live in real life, she lives in a horrible panopticon and bizarre shutin delusions.

Like, it's a lovely, lovely take and not doing anyone any favors, and again I wouldn't be terribly surprised if Wendigoon was some level of transphobe or whatever, but it doesn't seem like evidence of TERFery so much as just... lovely and using the kind of transphobic language that just floats around Western culture as background noise bigotry.
the core idea expressed in the tweet, that you can pick and choose who to respect the identity of in casual language, is trans-exclusionary bullshit. making identity conditional on good behaviour is the same thing that 'real' TERFs, like Abigail Shrier, do where they, personally, get to decide who is and who is not "really trans" and who is just someone with a mental illness.
there is no place for anyone to decide for anybody else what is their identity and what is their mental illness. as soon as you are doing that you are on the same side of the line as people who believe any identity outside of the societal norm is simply mentally illness (and must be corrected). people are who they say they are, regardless of why you think they're saying it.

fun hater
May 24, 2009

its a neat trick, but you can only do it once
i dont think that guy is a feminist

KingKalamari
Aug 24, 2007

Fuzzy dice, bongos in the back
My ship of love is ready to attack

Alaois posted:

https://web.archive.org/web/20220411055954/https://twitter.com/wendigoon8/status/1421880295414972417

had to pull up a web archive of it because the original tweet was deleted

this was literally brought up the last time Wendigoon was discussed in this thread

See, this is the kind of Tweet that can only be made by someone with absolutely no capacity for intellectual self scrutiny. It's just got such big "I have no idea what I'm talking about but damned if I don't have an important opinion I want to share..." energy to it.

Nuns with Guns
Jul 23, 2010

It's fine.
Don't worry about it.
Catching up on some stuff and I saw Clint reviewed the most popular reptile of all...


Rats

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlfBP-jU7nY

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Beffica
Apr 6, 2009

by Azathoth
In regards to this Act Man situation, I found this poo poo way too easy to find for it not to have come up already in the discussion when bringing up receipts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFS_HsBgqz4

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