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I will be mildly interested to see what kind of 3d printers the us mic will trial, license, procure, and use to produce these items. And at what final cost per unit. I suppose the other strategy would be to make the recipe freely available and let the free market compete to produce the highest quality item at lowest cost. Yeah, that's probably what will happen.
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palindrome posted:I will be mildly interested to see what kind of 3d printers the us mic will trial, license, procure, and use to produce these items. And at what final cost per unit. look at this chinese spy
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Why didn't they just design the new rifle to shoot steel cased ammo? The three piece cartridge seems unnecessarily complicated.
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Pryor on Fire posted:Why didn't they just design the new rifle to shoot steel cased ammo? The three piece cartridge seems unnecessarily complicated. weight
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gradenko_2000 posted:weight Maybe they should have done something about the weight of the fuckin gun then christ. If the US Army is really so worried about defeating body armor with whatever their new infantry rifle and MG combo is, because that is all I can imagine this thing is for with a cartridge hotter than 7.62x51, what I don't understand is why they didn't adopt a more aggressive steel core penetrator for the 5.56x45, even if they had to redesign the gun around a hotter case? This stuff has been around from at least the 70s and it was proven to be effective as recently as the early 2000's, so why the shift? It really reeks of american cultural caliber war bullshit and fat headed generals bringing their machismo into the procurement process. I mean I'm willing to be proven wrong and this larger caliber is the only way to reliably defeat modern body armor at 500 meters or whatever but does any of that actually matter compared to suppressive fire and heavy weapons? It just seems really half baked to go back to battle rifles.
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the average accuracy of infantry hitting their intended target that is shooting back at 300m is 0%
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GoLambo posted:Maybe they should have done something about the weight of the fuckin gun then christ. fancy new bullets mean someone gets to wet their beak
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They have tried different types of steel and carbide penetrator bullets on 5.56, but at the end of the day it's a pretty tiny bullet and loses energy quickly at range. The length of the bullet is also a limiter for penetration. Bigger bullets and the higher pressures mean the .277 has almost three times the muzzle energy. The body armor missile gap seems like BS, I am not buying it. But this round will be way more effective at shooting things like improvised suicide bomber cars that are 500 meters away and closing. That seems like the main thing the XM5 was actually designed for. Pryor on Fire has issued a correction as of 14:43 on Jun 8, 2022 |
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so who is sending suicide bomber cars at yank troops rn? You're describing the use case for these weapons during the 2030s US balkanization wars right?
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It's hard to predict where we fight next, it will probably come down to which resource lobby group spends the most $$$ in congress? In any case yeah I still think it's more likely they are shooting at people living in poverty who build IEDs rather than shooting at professional troops with fancy body armor.
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Or the Venuzuelan occupation
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Rutibex posted:fancy new bullets mean someone gets to wet their beak
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The VA is going to be wetting some beaks aka doing facial reconstructive surgery when these bad boys start exploding. The US can't procure a boat that doesn't rust and they want us to believe their high powered round of the future isn't going to grenade these guns left right and center.
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BitcoinRockefeller posted:The VA is going to be wetting some beaks aka doing facial reconstructive surgery when these bad boys start exploding. The US can't procure a boat that doesn't rust and they want us to believe their high powered round of the future isn't going to grenade these guns left right and center. you talk as if the VA (and cops) aren't already outspending the entire PLA
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i assume if a contractor is compensated in a fixed % per round, they will be incentivised to answer ridiculous procurement requirements with the most expensive solution
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yea we can uh, 3d print um, a million of these things over the next two years, yea a million no problem, just pay us now
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what was that cool silenced rifle from the stalker games? Just use them duh
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why don't they just make silent bullets
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Rutibex posted:why don't they just make silent bullets They do, lol
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Does a suppressor even do anything if you're not using subsonic ammo? the muzzle velocity of the Spear is around Mach 3.
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Retromancer posted:Does a suppressor even do anything if you're not using subsonic ammo? the muzzle velocity of the Spear is around Mach 3. yes it substantially lowers the decibel value of the report even if the bullet is supersonic
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It also makes it harder to locate the weapon- the bullet doesn't sound in the same position as the gun
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https://twitter.com/snekotron/status/1534770264164147202 https://twitter.com/snekotron/status/1534771534815952897 it turns out that war manufacturing is quite involved and requires a wide industrial base
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its almost like liberals get surprised everytime when reality bites them in the rear end
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osprey down. 5 killed in southwest.
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Pryor on Fire posted:Why didn't they just design the new rifle to shoot steel cased ammo? The three piece cartridge seems unnecessarily complicated. Unnecessarily complicated means you get to bill for more consultants. The waste is entirely the point.
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Real hurthling! posted:osprey down. 5 killed in southwest.  one bird full of marines at a time o7
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Danann posted:https://twitter.com/snekotron/status/1534770264164147202 the best thing about the 3d printing is its easy to do onshore manufacturing. build a factory floor, stock with 3d printers and technicians, and you have a domestic supply of manufactured suppressors. i assume the printers are made in china lol
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Delta-Wye posted:the best thing about the 3d printing is its easy to do onshore manufacturing. build a factory floor, stock with 3d printers and technicians, and you have a domestic supply of manufactured suppressors. 3d printers don't work like that. Besides some fringe cases, raw parts from a 3d printers are still going to require a ton of machining and post processing in order to achieve any kind of tolerances that can be used. anyone that wants to actually make money with 3d printing will be using a chinese 3d printers
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They really want to believe in the promise of 3D printing: the output of industrialization without any of the workers.
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Bar Crow posted:They really want to believe in the promise of 3D printing: the output of industrialization without any of the workers. It's just another machine tool.
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https://twitter.com/PDChina/status/1534792411179896834 just small botes atm but i wonder how far away from the coast these can be used
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Real hurthling! posted:osprey down. 5 killed in southwest. lol
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Danann posted:just small botes atm but i wonder how far away from the coast these can be used this is a lie I see two people on the deck of that boat
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Danann posted:https://twitter.com/PDChina/status/1534792411179896834 what is this "unmanned" bullshit there are clearly people on that boat
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Rutibex posted:this is a lie I see two people on the deck of that boat Foo Diddley posted:what is this "unmanned" bullshit there are clearly people on that boat Those are women obviously.
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