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Red_Fred
Oct 21, 2010


Fallen Rib

a.p. dent posted:

i'm enjoying this songwriting workshop so much because of the deadlines, and i'm trying to figure out how i can recreate that without the class structure. i also don't want to be too hard on myself. i dunno. there's absolute zero urgency for me to write songs, so i can always fall back on that

it's not like i want to write a song every 4 days forever, but that structure seems to help me a lot so it'd be nice to find a way to recreate it when i want to

This is a big reason I got on to finding a teacher quickly this time around. I really work better with some external accountability when it comes to learning new things.

Related, I had my first lesson last night and it was great. Guy seems really good and organised. Learned some cool subtle palm muting techniques.

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a.p. dent
Oct 24, 2005

Ok Comboomer posted:

have you thought about songwriting for other people’s work (ie for podcasts, YouTube, etc)?

great idea, a friend was always doing these and he was extremely prolific when i knew him. he also is (or was) a goon, so hey Adhesion if you're out there

almost 20 years ago now, i recorded a few of these: http://crapart.spacebar.org/aad/. it's a good way to get yourself making stuff.

Sweaty IT Nerd
Jul 13, 2007

My pedal chain is currently mosky golden horse into mosky plexi-m. That's fun.

landgrabber
Sep 13, 2015

guitar situation really starting to bum me out again.

i was trying to deal with it for a while but it’s getting on my nerves… the tone pot goes exponentially instead of smoothly, and my volume pot doesn’t do much at all… slightly lowers the volume, while the tone pot lowers the tone and the volume at an exponential rate. can’t get either all the way down to zero. i have a feeling it’s effecting my EQ, because i haven’t been able to get as much of that classic mid JB sound out of it, that i did out of one of faust’s guitars, and when i played an ed o’brien strat (JB jr).

endlessly frustrating. i’m getting sad… i just wish stuff would work.

and the push pot is set so that when it’s up, the humbucker is _not_ in series.

Huxley
Oct 10, 2012



Grimey Drawer
Didn't you pay for this work? Send your tech an email, I'm sure they'd rather make it right for you than you be dissatisfied.

TEMPLE GRANDIN OS
Dec 10, 2003

...blyat
I'm a punkins fan boy so corgan has been god since i was a kid. bury me has a great solo, mayonnaise is another.

I like solos!

I like what thordendal does in meshuggah. In some of their early stuff he was using a breath modulator thing to sound saxy. huge holdsworth influence.

slayer fuckin rule because slayer fuckin sucks. reign in blood fit on one side of a cassette so when I had to drive 90 minutes to work I could listen to it 3 times.


Big Jim from faith no more is another legend.

Jack Pearson is another player I don't see talked about much. He played with the allmans for a while before dickie blew his ears out. I think he plays around in Nashville now. He does a solo in a version of Elizabeth Reed with tedeshci trucks that is psycho.

this is half an hour long lol

https://youtu.be/RjXMi5DKmDg

Sweaty IT Nerd
Jul 13, 2007

Favorite solo?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54CK8JlfJRk

Dr. Faustus
Feb 18, 2001

Grimey Drawer

landgrabber posted:

guitar situation really starting to bum me out again.

i was trying to deal with it for a while but it’s getting on my nerves… the tone pot goes exponentially instead of smoothly, and my volume pot doesn’t do much at all… slightly lowers the volume, while the tone pot lowers the tone and the volume at an exponential rate. can’t get either all the way down to zero. i have a feeling it’s effecting my EQ, because i haven’t been able to get as much of that classic mid JB sound out of it, that i did out of one of faust’s guitars, and when i played an ed o’brien strat (JB jr).

endlessly frustrating. i’m getting sad… i just wish stuff would work.

and the push pot is set so that when it’s up, the humbucker is _not_ in series.
Did you want the humbucker to be in parallel with the knob down?
Don't be sad, lg. It's frustrating when gear issues happen but your electronics really are fixable. If you cannot roll the guitar off to silence there is a grounding problem. If it is a new problem, it can easily be tracked down by a tech with a multimeter. Since you just had this re-done (after I failed miserably, I am still really sorry about that) there should be no problem (except for the drive and the hassle) getting the tech to sort it out.

It's a lot more fun reading your posts now that you are speaking in actual music vernacular. You've come a really long way and eventually you will be an expert in all this stuff. As long as you stay passionate about it.

I've got 11 guitars with fresh strings on them. You swing through Charlotte again feel free to waste time at my place, you can play all of them. I'll plug in my bass and accompany you.

E: I even got out the FF338 (which also has the JB/59 loadout):

Dr. Faustus fucked around with this message at 08:25 on Jun 10, 2022

Red_Fred
Oct 21, 2010


Fallen Rib

Dr. Faustus posted:

Did you want the humbucker to be in parallel with the knob down?
Don't be sad, lg. It's frustrating when gear issues happen but your electronics really are fixable. If you cannot roll the guitar off to silence there is a grounding problem. If it is a new problem, it can easily be tracked down by a tech with a multimeter. Since you just had this re-done (after I failed miserably, I am still really sorry about that) there should be no problem (except for the drive and the hassle) getting the tech to sort it out.

It's a lot more fun reading your posts now that you are speaking in actual music vernacular. You've come a really long way and eventually you will be an expert in all this stuff. As long as you stay passionate about it.

I've got 11 guitars with fresh strings on them. You swing through Charlotte again feel free to waste time at my place, you can play all of them. I'll plug in my bass and accompany you.

E: I even got out the FF338 (which also has the JB/59 loadout):


This rules.

landgrabber
Sep 13, 2015

Dr. Faustus posted:

Did you want the humbucker to be in parallel with the knob down?
Don't be sad, lg. It's frustrating when gear issues happen but your electronics really are fixable. If you cannot roll the guitar off to silence there is a grounding problem. If it is a new problem, it can easily be tracked down by a tech with a multimeter. Since you just had this re-done (after I failed miserably, I am still really sorry about that) there should be no problem (except for the drive and the hassle) getting the tech to sort it out.

It's a lot more fun reading your posts now that you are speaking in actual music vernacular. You've come a really long way and eventually you will be an expert in all this stuff. As long as you stay passionate about it.

I've got 11 guitars with fresh strings on them. You swing through Charlotte again feel free to waste time at my place, you can play all of them. I'll plug in my bass and accompany you.

E: I even got out the FF338 (which also has the JB/59 loadout):


i don’t remember which guitar it was but there was one that you had me play with a JB in it, and i went for a little bit, and then said “this is the sound”.

as far as going down to zero, that’s been the case for me last couple months i had it done. i don’t remember if it was like that with single coils or not. i guess it could be that i changed the pickguard which didn’t have as much shielding. though i feel like maybe you put some on? or maybe i’m misremembering.

the person i took it to didn’t re-do the whole thing — there was just one wire, and then of course she’d installed the pickup switch.

funny thing is she said she looked at what you’d did and said it was all correct, so as far as i’m concerned she’s equally at fault here in terms of “my tone knob exponentially turns down my volume”.

i would like to do it when i’m not financially drowning again… finished a semester of school when i didn’t have the time to have a job. now my car needs all the yearly car stuff plus a new brake hose + caliper

blahhh

Dr. Faustus
Feb 18, 2001

Grimey Drawer
Not to mention the price of gas. I get it.

Just didn't like seeing you down. It's an open-ended offer. You are always welcome.

E: You played this 1991 RG770DX and yeah, it has the signature JB bump, you hear it right away.

Dr. Faustus fucked around with this message at 08:58 on Jun 10, 2022

landgrabber
Sep 13, 2015

Dr. Faustus posted:

Not to mention the price of gas. I get it.

Just didn't like seeing you down. It's an open-ended offer. You are always welcome.

E: You played this 1991 RG770DX and yeah, it has the signature JB bump, you hear it right away.


i haven't been able to get The JB Bump with this guitar weirdly... or maybe it's there but it's just obfuscated by my amp

BizarroAzrael
Apr 6, 2006

"That must weigh heavily on your soul. Let me purge it for you."
I've got to thinking about trying a Jaguar, I like the body shape on the Jazzmaster kit I built, and it turns out rather than the JM having a longer neck than the other guitars I have, actually the Jaguar has a shorter one than them all. I'm interested in finding a pretty dark tone, which Jags seem to offer. Is the shorter scale length particular difficult?

I'm considering going the kit route again, although the promising kit I've found isn't quite authentic to the standard layout and is HSH. I'm pretty used to 2 pickups, is there such a thing as "too many" for some or can I just ignore the single coil at worst?

Are there any other good models for a dark sound? I'm kicking around some pickup ideas. Maybe a kit would lose something from a real Jag, I just want to keep exploring gear really.

Major Operation
Jan 1, 2006

BizarroAzrael posted:

I've got to thinking about trying a Jaguar, I like the body shape on the Jazzmaster kit I built, and it turns out rather than the JM having a longer neck than the other guitars I have, actually the Jaguar has a shorter one than them all. I'm interested in finding a pretty dark tone, which Jags seem to offer. Is the shorter scale length particular difficult?

I'm considering going the kit route again, although the promising kit I've found isn't quite authentic to the standard layout and is HSH. I'm pretty used to 2 pickups, is there such a thing as "too many" for some or can I just ignore the single coil at worst?

Are there any other good models for a dark sound? I'm kicking around some pickup ideas. Maybe a kit would lose something from a real Jag, I just want to keep exploring gear really.

I have a Fender Duo-Sonic that I play sometimes, which also has 24-inch scale, and I wouldn't say it is more difficult. The short-scale Fender guitars were originally meant to be student guitars, and I would say the shorter scale is a little easier to play because there is less string tension.

The dark character that you are familiar with from some Jaguars may be due to the rhythm circuit above the strings. It is the same circuit that is on Jazzmasters, and cheaper Jaguar-shaped guitars sometimes omit those controls because they are complicated and weird. I don't know how often people really play using those controls, to be honest.

Here's a video from Fender where Mike Adams demos the controls on a Jaguar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c90Htzq7E5k

Mike Adams has his own YouTube channel with videos about offset-style guitars.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzQXeVjg90o

That Jaguar kit in the link seems a little suspicious to me. I can't tell what the controls actually are, but they don't seem to match normal Jaguar controls. I don't think an HSH pickup topology is inherently bad or hard to use but not knowing what the controls are makes it hard to say if that kit would sound even remotely like a real Jaguar. It also seems suspiciously cheap (edit: maybe not, after looking around), and you would have to drill the hole for the jack socket.

Jaguars sure are cool though. Johnny Marr has a signature model from Fender. The nicer ones usually come with the legit Jaguar pickups. Having humbuckers and/or Strat single coils would remove some of the character Jaguars are known for, I think. The question remains whether or not that character is something you actually want.

Major Operation fucked around with this message at 03:27 on Jun 11, 2022

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

WHITE NOISE
GENERATOR

🔊😴
Yeah, jag pickups look a little like strat pickups at a glance but they're fairly different. They have this metal enclosure on the sides that shapes the field in a different way, I think it's kind of a figure 8?

landgrabber
Sep 13, 2015

oh i forgot to mention this when we were talking about guitar youtubers...

my favorite one currently is pushien. he's a scholar of weezer guitar tone, which is not everyone's thing but also, he's super super knowledgeable about offsets. love his reviews of them

landgrabber
Sep 13, 2015

i'm actually GASing for a mustang now.

it's the first electric i ever really played (my sister used to have a MIJ 70s reissue mustang that was super nice) and it's girly and feminine as hell which i like.

and they're all light and small which is great if you're small and fragile as i am

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp
i bought a $119 IYV that's half mustang, half jaguar. I had to do a fret level and polish on it, but it's a hell of a lot of fun now and sounds like rock and roll through that little Vox amp

Oxygenpoisoning
Feb 21, 2006
I have a Squire Mustang, it’s a fun little guitar. They’re pretty cheap even new, so not a huge investment if you go for a used one.

landgrabber
Sep 13, 2015

me when i started playing guitar, thinking i wanted to play clean: buys telecaster and eventually a hot rod amp... decides to play dirty

me upon getting humbucker distortion machine: decides i want a thin/small/cute guitar, to play clean/sparkly and do lots of chord work with

this is cursed. but at least breaking free of relying on distortion so much is kind of a sign that i'm a developing player

muike
Mar 16, 2011

ガチムチ セブン
that's why fat strats with a coil split on the bridge rule

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp
i bought a tele with a neck bucker from Rondo and ended up doing a swap with a big pole piece bridge pickup and then i found a humbucker sized p90 for the neck and i loving love that guitar now. Threw in a 4-way switch so i can do both in series, too. aces

lazerwolf
Dec 22, 2009

Orange and Black
My favorite solos are ones that feel like they are barely hanging on

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SW8ASYIHRI

landgrabber
Sep 13, 2015

lazerwolf posted:

My favorite solos are ones that feel like they are barely hanging on

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SW8ASYIHRI

casually dropping this... this song is like extremely my type of music... melodic mix of punk/garage/post-hardcore

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

WHITE NOISE
GENERATOR

🔊😴
Also I'm pretty sure the frontman is chewing gum the whole time.

Major Operation
Jan 1, 2006

I did some more looking around at offset guitar kits, and I guess that one from Guitar Fabric isn't as suspiciously cheap as I thought. It is, however, the wrong scale length to be a Jaguar at 25.5 inches, and I still have no idea what the tone would be like on it. Might just sound like a cheap strat with humbuckers.

For something to use as a comparison, StewMac has a few offset guitar kits, including one with a trem: https://www.stewmac.com/sale/offset-trem-electric-guitar-kit

That still isn't short scale like a Jaguar, but I would expect the tone to be darker than a JazzMaster thanks to the P90 pickups and mahogany body. Those surely aren't their "Golden Age" P90s, which would be 80% of cost of the kit otherwise, but I guess that is expected at this price point.

I suppose StewMac has some incentive to make their kits good enough to be playable, at least; having a bad experience trying to build a guitar would make you less likely to continue acquiring a bunch of their overpriced tools in the years to come.

Doctor Dogballs
Apr 1, 2007

driving the fuck truck from hand land to pound town without stopping at suction station


NGD.
I finally finished this beautiful thing.


It's a warmoth single piece mahogany body, fender MIM strat neck, ugly-rear end pau ferro board. Fender locking tuners. graphtech non-stick nut. Kluson trem (identical to fender's though) graph tech saddles. One pickup. The pickup is a seymour duncan Duckbucker. it sounds ridiculously good. The volume control is the middle knob and the tone is the lowest. The upper-most pot and the pup selector switch aren't wired to anything.


You can see where I had to drill out some wood so that the Strat style pickup mounting screws can actually go in, as well as the channel for the pickup wiring to go out from the middle cavity.


Notice how the black empty pickup covers are in there. In this pic I had not put them in with the little rubber springs that normally go between a pickup and the pickguard. This was a mistake. When I put the guitar together for the first time, those things were super tall and rubbed on the high strings. Had to take it apart again and add those rubber things to space them properly as if they were real pickups. Also, notice the electrical tape on the lowest pot. That's my cop-out solution to the old "can't get solder to stick to the pot" problem. Anyway, it works.


Sometime in the middle of this last winter I posted asking what to do about a neck can actually wiggle side to side a little bit in its pocket. Well, this is the answer. This is a piece of drywall sanding screen, 100 grit ("fine" grit - I guess by drywall standards that's "fine".) Costs almost nothing and was very easy to cut into the right shape. It is in there between the neck & body and it works perfectly. No wiggle whatsoever.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

landgrabber posted:

i'm actually GASing for a mustang now.

it's the first electric i ever really played (my sister used to have a MIJ 70s reissue mustang that was super nice) and it's girly and feminine as hell which i like.

and they're all light and small which is great if you're small and fragile as i am

I have a Mustang short scale bass and it rules, you should def look into one of those. Every guitar player needs at least two basses (one regular and one short)

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011
The worst think about buying new gear that has to be shipped to you is mashing F5 on the tracking page repeatedly despite knowing that it's 9:30pm on a Friday and it won't arrive until Wednesday at the earliest.

I want my helix noooooooooooow

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph

Baron von Eevl posted:

Yeah, jag pickups look a little like strat pickups at a glance but they're fairly different. They have this metal enclosure on the sides that shapes the field in a different way, I think it's kind of a figure 8?

I would say the neck pickup on my jaguar sounds very close to a strat neck pickup if you EQ it right. The bridge is like in between a tele bridge and a strat bridge which is cool. The strangle switch that darkens the sound a bit (don't remember the actual name of it, not the rhythm circuit though that thing is way darker than I'd ever use) was the thing that surprised me the most, I only thought of jangly surf sounds with jags but that switch turns it into a p90 les Paul special and sounds a lot fatter

Red_Fred
Oct 21, 2010


Fallen Rib

lazerwolf posted:

My favorite solos are ones that feel like they are barely hanging on

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SW8ASYIHRI

Yeah this is cool, I also happen to randomly have one of their songs on my normal rotation playlist.

Today I spied the JACKSON JS1X RR MINION and now I really want one…the cutest V. Although all the cheap Jackson’s I’ve played didn’t feel very nice to be honest…

darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

GENE TRAITOR

Wowporn posted:

I would say the neck pickup on my jaguar sounds very close to a strat neck pickup if you EQ it right. The bridge is like in between a tele bridge and a strat bridge which is cool. The strangle switch that darkens the sound a bit (don't remember the actual name of it, not the rhythm circuit though that thing is way darker than I'd ever use) was the thing that surprised me the most, I only thought of jangly surf sounds with jags but that switch turns it into a p90 les Paul special and sounds a lot fatter

Strangle works the opposite way round - it's a bass cut so the dark sound is actually when it's off. Works great for cutting through fuzz and drives.

Sweaty IT Nerd
Jul 13, 2007

I like the Godzilla leads

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myqSETD5_bs

landgrabber
Sep 13, 2015

more than rivers cuomo actually, my Lead Guitar Icon is joey santiago.

the sort of melodic parallax effect of octaves moving over different things.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuHeAs0rw5M

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

Top Class!

landgrabber posted:

more than rivers cuomo actually, my Lead Guitar Icon is joey santiago.

the sort of melodic parallax effect of octaves moving over different things.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuHeAs0rw5M

Pixies are very cool as a person learning guitar, because they pretty much have an easy mode and a hard mode for every song and both sound pretty good.

luchadornado
Oct 7, 2004

A boombox is not a toy!

Everytime I hear about Weezer, all I can think about is the time I saw them open for Foo Fighters. The whole set sounded incredibly rough, and they spent like 15 minutes trying to get someone to come up from the audience and (un)successfully play the intro to Undone (Sweater Song). It was really painful.

Silver lining was that was the night I realized that Dave Grohl wasn't overrated and that he was a rockstar.

Gramps
Dec 30, 2006


landgrabber posted:

i'm actually GASing for a mustang now.

it's the first electric i ever really played (my sister used to have a MIJ 70s reissue mustang that was super nice) and it's girly and feminine as hell which i like.

and they're all light and small which is great if you're small and fragile as i am

I really think you'd dig the supersonic if you can find one

lazerwolf
Dec 22, 2009

Orange and Black

landgrabber posted:

casually dropping this... this song is like extremely my type of music... melodic mix of punk/garage/post-hardcore

Awesome they seem right up your alley considering the bands you’ve shared in the past.

SwissDonkey
Mar 29, 2007

landgrabber posted:

i'm actually just really getting upset at the hot rod deville lately. it's so dark.

i will not get a boss katana please do not tell me to get one

Did you get a boss katana yet?

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Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN
Are there any other good modelling amps sub $600?

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