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Has this stupid thing finally started? Why did they delay so long?
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Toaster Beef posted:I could be a naïve idiot, but it feels a whole lot like over the past month or two we've been seeing cracks in the foundation of Trump's support within the party that just weren't there before. More and more chatter around DeSantis as the heir apparent, those straw poll results from out west, right-wing outlets being a bit more willing to come out against Trump ... it's little poo poo here and there, but for me it adds up to the feeling that the party's slowly coming around to jettisoning him. I wonder if what comes out of these hearings is considered the turning point — a convenient spot for the stakeholders to cut bait and start prepping the runway for DeSantis. Historically authoritarians/flagrant liars like Trump seem untouchable right up until 5 minutes after they're not. Even then it's sometimes not clear for some time that that moment has passed, and many of the things that seemed to bounce off them actually caused deep damage that piled up until the end. I feel like this could be one of those moments, but it could be nothing. I felt like that in the immediate aftermath of Jan 6th as well.
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Jun 13, 2022 15:59
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TulliusCicero posted:Has this stupid thing finally started? A birth, I think.
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Jun 13, 2022 16:00
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TulliusCicero posted:Has this stupid thing finally started? One of the people subpoenaed had a family emergency and they had to substitute in his pre-recorded statements.
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Jun 13, 2022 16:01
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Ivanka looks like a CGI facsimile of herself. edit: "The mayor was definitely intoxicated" Experts:, "You didn't win" Drunk guy, "Go say you won" Trump, "I won!" Murgos fucked around with this message at 16:21 on Jun 13, 2022 |
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Jun 13, 2022 16:10
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rudy was shitfaced and told trump to declare victory and that it was stolen.
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Jun 13, 2022 16:16
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Jarmak posted:Historically authoritarians/flagrant liars like Trump seem untouchable right up until 5 minutes after they're not. Even then it's sometimes not clear for some time that that moment has passed, and many of the things that seemed to bounce off them actually caused deep damage that piled up until the end. I have my doubts but it really doesn't matter since the thing moving forward will be the Trump BRAND and STYLE, even if it doesn't have to be Trump himself. Hell, if someone can ape the same bullshit without all the faux pas and hard to defend word salad, they'll probably be even more effective. Right now I think Trump is a lock for 2024. I don't see anyone on the Democratic bench with a whole lot going for them and the few I like are doomed because they're "way too far left and radical". Most of the country think that what's happening right now is because of Biden's "Far Left" policies.
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Jun 13, 2022 16:16
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I love that Drunk Rudy is a central figure in this story
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Jun 13, 2022 16:22
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This Kevin Marino guy is trying really hard just to cover his own rear end.
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Jun 13, 2022 16:22
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BiggerBoat posted:
Oh for sure - I was at a weekend city event in Illinois just recently and there was a vendor section for people to sell stuff from local markets and business owners. Saw plenty of MAGA 2024 and TRUMP 2024 merch. There are a lot of people that want to go back to “how things were” under Trump, where they were incensed and even encouraged to act aggressive and hateful. They have even motivated groups to shut down story time given by trans people at a local event. The Democratic Party is doing jack poo poo when it comes to getting people energized and motivated to vote, while the GOP is feeding off of the “DEMS ARE GOING TO PUT GAYS AND TRANS IN THE BATHROOMS AT YOUR KIDS SCHOOLS” energy and getting their voting block ready for midterms and the upcoming election in 2024, no matter the candidate at this point. On topic though - I am really hoping that these hearings will spawn enough discussion amongst the general public to go “huh, yeah, that was bad what happened, and we need to not have that happen”. But alas, the overall population will forget about this by the midterms, and definitely by 2024. The only way anything major happens is if Trump and his people are perp-walked on TV, but we know that won’t happen.
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Jun 13, 2022 16:24
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gently caress me, I missed the beginning of the hearing. Is there somewhere I can watch from the beginning?
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Jun 13, 2022 16:28
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Captain Melo posted:gently caress me, I missed the beginning of the hearing. Is there somewhere I can watch from the beginning? just open the AP stream and click at the start of the stream, you'll have to skip around because it started real late https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtM9Itv6tj8 https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1536361664601374721
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Jun 13, 2022 16:35
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I swear I can hear someone giggling while they’re playing this Giuliani clip.
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Jun 13, 2022 16:36
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duck.exe posted:I swear I can hear someone giggling while they’re playing this Giuliani clip. It's me
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Jun 13, 2022 16:42
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Big Massive Dumps
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Jun 13, 2022 16:43
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SwimNurd posted:Big Massive Dumps the biggest most beautiful massive dumps
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Jun 13, 2022 16:46
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https://twitter.com/ReallyActivist/status/1535516732458053632?s=20&t=BY9d3YoVLFdTYOclNIJdxA
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Jun 13, 2022 16:49
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Barr is a true rat: will always cover his own rear end Lmao that Trump thought this toad was ever loyal to his dumbass
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Jun 13, 2022 16:51
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CommieGIR posted:https://twitter.com/ReallyActivist/status/1535516732458053632?s=20&t=BY9d3YoVLFdTYOclNIJdxA "Oh poo poo I'm going to jail. I'm out." Anyway, I loved the reminder from Steppian that he was the guy who took over after all the fraud that previous spring where the campaign almost tanked.
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Jun 13, 2022 16:52
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TulliusCicero posted:Barr is a true rat: will always cover his own rear end Finally someone as loyal to Trump as he is to others.
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Jun 13, 2022 17:00
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I just got back from doctor appointments. Did I miss anything good? Anything we didn't already know?
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Jun 13, 2022 17:04
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:I just got back from doctor appointments. Did I miss anything good? Anything we didn't already know? Read the thread and find out!
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Jun 13, 2022 17:15
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:I just got back from doctor appointments. Did I miss anything good? Anything we didn't already know? Rudy was apparently inebriated.
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Jun 13, 2022 17:15
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Barr told Trump there was nothing questionable about elections in Detroit, he went into depth about all the claims Trump had about it. The next day Trump went on TV and showed a chart about how impossible it was he lost Michigan (even though he got more votes than he did in 2016!) This is delicious. At the moment a new panel of experts is debunking fraud claims, specifically one at a time, and explaining exactly how there was no fraud. Dr. Faustus fucked around with this message at 17:25 on Jun 13, 2022 |
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Jun 13, 2022 17:21
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Nothing will happen to Trump, but it would still be delicious to be a fly on the wall as he rage shits his Depends while watching this.
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Jun 13, 2022 17:25
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:Nothing will happen to Trump, but it would still be delicious to be a fly on the wall as he rage shits his Depends while watching this. You know he's watching it because it's about him and he can't not look.
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Jun 13, 2022 17:27
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The DOJ charges of Seditious Conspiracy levied against the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers indicates DOJ is pursuing a case that absolutely targets Donald Trump. Beside that, the Grand Jury in GA will announce by or on June 30th they intent to prosecute. Unless something happens to him first, Donald Trump is going to prison. Dr. Faustus fucked around with this message at 17:55 on Jun 13, 2022 |
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Jun 13, 2022 17:27
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 Barr just admitted Trump was the weakest part of the Republican ticket in 2020 Lmao
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Jun 13, 2022 17:27
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"Allegations of 800,000 dead voters in PA, in actuality we couldn't find 8."
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Jun 13, 2022 17:29
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Dr. Faustus posted:The DOJ charges of Seditious Conspiracy levied against the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers indicates DOJ is pursuing a case that absolutely targets Donald Trump. Beside that, the Grand Jury in GA will announce by or on June 30th they intent to prosecute. It’s possible at this point. I think he will probably drag it out in court forever and die before guilty or innocent and probably pull some of the chuds down with him.
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Jun 13, 2022 17:34
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Oh hey, even the Bush v Gore fucker thinks this poo poo is stupid
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Jun 13, 2022 17:34
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So, what's the chance of Trump getting indicted? Are there any sites like electionbettingodds that show some kind of live "market"? I'm very curious. I had thought it was only a pipe-dream but all of this ramping up makes me think that it might be a "double digit percentage" chance.
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Jun 13, 2022 17:38
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Where's the juicy Barr stuff? I'm watching the CNN stream and as far as I can jump back and forth, it's just some Ginsberg or Al Schmidt guy. https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/january-6-hearings-june-13/index.html
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Jun 13, 2022 17:40
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Keisari posted:So, what's the chance of Trump getting indicted? Are there any sites like electionbettingodds that show some kind of live "market"? I'm very curious. I had thought it was only a pipe-dream but all of this ramping up makes me think that it might be a "double digit percentage" chance. There's a PredictIt market for this: https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/7774/Will-Donald-Trump-be-indicted-by-Sept-1
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Jun 13, 2022 17:41
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Dr. Faustus posted:Unless something happens to him first, Donald Trump is going to prison. I'll believe it when I see him in prison issue orange and not a moment before. Because regardless of the evidence, I don't think you find 12 people to convict. Of course, on the chance you did, if, facing the prospect of time behind bars, maybe the remainder of his life given his age and health, he decided to off himself, well that'd be just fine.
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Jun 13, 2022 17:42
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B B posted:There's a PredictIt market for this: Thanks! Much better than nothing, although I recall seeing predictit's odds in the past weirdly distorted compared to other markets. Probably due to all the restrictions. But according to that, the chance of an indictment has roughly doubled. A big shift! EDIT: Well, not quite doubled, but has increased dramatically
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Jun 13, 2022 17:44
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He grifted his own election defense campaign Holy lmao This loving owns He committed fraud on top of Insurrection
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Jun 13, 2022 17:44
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Knowing he probably will never go to prison my biggest hope is that he will suffer some rage stroke from all this.
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TulliusCicero posted:Has this stupid thing finally started? Why do you think it's stupid? Also, wondering, how is "apparently inebriated Rudy Giuliani" different from regular Rudy Giuliani ? Keisari posted:So, what's the chance of Trump getting indicted? zero chance
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And thats what it all boils down to. The entire thing was just to fuel Trump fund raising. And he suckered the entire Republican party to fund raise for him.
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