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Atopian
Sep 23, 2014

I need a security perimeter with Venetian blinds.

Karia posted:

So? Do you have a diagnosis?

Diagnosis? No. We have only just finished collecting... insurance information.

Meanwhile in China you've had two X-rays in ten minutes, and been handed a fistful of medicines for mutually exclusive diagnoses, plus pills made from concentrated Buffalo squeezings.

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COPE 27
Sep 11, 2006

In the past year I've had eye surgery and like 8 hospital visits for tests and specialist visits and my total out of pocket is like $6 the one time my appointment went over the 2 hours of free parking.

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
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Atopian posted:

Meanwhile in China you've had two X-rays in ten minutes, and been handed a fistful of medicines for mutually exclusive diagnoses, plus pills made from concentrated Buffalo squeezings.

So it's quick and cheap but the efficacy is inscrutable? Is this better or worse than the usa? Who knows!

Escape From Noise
Jul 27, 2004

When the subject of health insurance comes up sometimes I wish I learned Italian.

champagne posting
Apr 5, 2006

YOU ARE A BRAIN
IN A BUNKER


Escape From Noise posted:

When the subject of health insurance comes up sometimes I wish I learned Italian.

There’s still time

BrideOfUglycat
Oct 30, 2000

blackmet posted:

I broke my foot in late April and ended up at the ER.

The bill might be $1600. It might be $5000. I have no idea. I think the ER closest to us is out of network, but the insurance is treating us like it's in? I guess I'll know when I get the bill.

The Husband had to go to the ER on Easter due to a leg infection. He came out with a diabetes and high blood pressure diagnosis. We are still getting bills from that. We had a similar issue with "What is covered and what isn't" especially since they had to do an ultrasound of his leg. As a result, everything is coming in piecemeal. 2k for the ultrasound, 5k for the ER stay, $150 for the 5 minute consult with the dietician as we were getting ready to go... Plus meds. All of them marked as "We have submitted to insurance, NOT A BILL" while we wait to see what's covered and what isn't.

We're trying to adjust ADHD meds for our kid at the same time. We chose a medication that was listed on the formulary for our insurance. We go to pick it up, and sure enough, insurance covered $50 of it... Leaving us $350 to pay. A month. I ended up asking the PCP to cancel that prescription and switch to a different one that actually ISN'T covered by our insurance because the manufacturer has a savings plan where the first fill is free and uncovered refills are *only* $75 a month. I ended up arguing with the pharmacy for 20 minutes because "We didn't order this; it's not covered by insurance"... It had been sent in to be filled 5 hours earlier and they didn't contact us or the doctor's office about any issues filling it. Then, they didn't even want to try the savings card because (again) "It's not covered."

I DON'T CARE THAT IT'S NOT COVERED. I HAVE A REASON FOR THAT.

Sadly, my husband's company doesn't offer health insurance because they are tiny and can't get any good deals on it. We've been making do with the Marketplace, but prices are getting more expensive and what they cover is less and less.

Zero One
Dec 30, 2004

HAIL TO THE VICTORS!

blackmet posted:

I broke my foot in late April and ended up at the ER.

The bill might be $1600. It might be $5000. I have no idea. I think the ER closest to us is out of network, but the insurance is treating us like it's in? I guess I'll know when I get the bill.

At least they gave us more options than a single high deductible HSA plan this year.

I stuck with the HSA

mikerock
Oct 29, 2005

I broke my collarbone in January and have been going to regular doctor and physio visits and I think about $150.00 came out of my pocket. :canada:

Ranidas
Jun 19, 2007
Is the Cost Plus Drugs from Mark Cuban any good? Curious if anyone with these expensive monthly prescriptions has tried it. Our family isn't on any meds so I don't have a reason to sign up, but have seen it various places online.

boar guy
Jan 25, 2007

company is only at 15% of projected revenue for the year as anyone with any sense told them would happen

the meeting to discuss the bonus plan adjustment gonna be very interesting lol

TheSpartacus
Oct 30, 2010
HEY GUYS I'VE FLOWN HELICOPTERS IN THIS GAME BEFORE AND I AM AN EXPERT. ALSO, HOW DO I START THE ENGINE?

boar guy posted:

company is only at 15% of projected revenue for the year as anyone with any sense told them would happen

the meeting to discuss the bonus plan adjustment gonna be very interesting lol

Working as intended then.

Thomamelas
Mar 11, 2009

Ranidas posted:

Is the Cost Plus Drugs from Mark Cuban any good? Curious if anyone with these expensive monthly prescriptions has tried it. Our family isn't on any meds so I don't have a reason to sign up, but have seen it various places online.

I've only done some price comparisons so far and the cost plus drugs site seems to come out way ahead. Like $9 for a 30 day supply of a drug that would be $400. Even if they are a pain in the rear end to work with, it's not like insurance + pharmacy isn't.

Hardawn
Mar 15, 2004

Don't look at the sun, but rather what it illuminates
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Killswitch
Feb 25, 2009
Goddamn you guys need to fix your health care, I can’t even comprehend the idea of considering if the ambulance or hospital is in my network or whatever.

:canada:

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

Yeah, this is the "Dumb poo poo your work does" thread not the "Dumb poo poo your country does" thread.

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

How much do you pay if you're shot in a mass shooting? Seems like a good business opportunity for hospitals.

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth
Healthcare in America is appropriate for dumb stuff at work because hospitals are for-profit businesses in the land of the free.

naem
May 29, 2011

McGavin posted:

How much do you pay if you're shot in a mass shooting? Seems like a good business opportunity for hospitals.

if you are shot in the hospital they wheel you out, put you in to an ambulance anyway then wheel you back in and charge $30k for ambulance fees (before checking if you have insurance and if not they leave you in the hallway with the covid patients)

naem fucked around with this message at 18:47 on Jun 13, 2022

YeahTubaMike
Mar 24, 2005

*hic* Gotta finish thish . . .
Doctor Rope


:rolleyes:

Samuel L. Hacksaw
Mar 26, 2007

Never Stop Posting

Lol.

I threw my back out a couple weeks ago and one of our leadership team helpfully offered 'I take advil when my back hurts' and I just left that poo poo on read.

Suck my dick you bossman.

Evilreaver
Feb 26, 2007

GEORGE IS GETTIN' AUGMENTED!
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Samuel L. Hacksaw posted:

Lol.

I threw my back out a couple weeks ago and one of our leadership team helpfully offered 'I take advil when my back hurts' and I just left that poo poo on read.

Suck my dick you bossman.

I do court reporting for Social Security Disability hearings. There is one ALJ (judge) who has absolutely no sympathy for anyone and it's rough to listen to (most judges are okay). It's hard for me to judge how cases turn out because (a) I'm not told and not supposed to know, and (b) I don't get to see the medical records people bring in which may support/contradict their testimony.

ANYWAY! Two cases with this judge stick with me. First, we had a multiple-cancer survivor who was basically that one bit from Spongebob: "I have glass bones and paper skin. I break my legs when I wake up and my arms every night. I cry in bed each night until my heart attacks put me to sleep. I'm depressed because I can't take my dog out for a walk anymore."

After the hearing off the record, :jerkbag: "I'm not giving that guy SSD just because he has a dog."

The other was much less dramatic, but along the lines of "I have multiple slipped discs in my back and can't stand or walk for more than a minute before I have to lie down for the rest of the day."
:jerkbag: "You got back pain? Have you tried one of THESE?" :smug: [pulls out lumbar support pillow]

Lazyfire
Feb 4, 2006

God saves. Satan Invests

McGavin posted:

Yeah, this is the "Dumb poo poo your work does" thread not the "Dumb poo poo your country does" thread.

I'd make the case that workplace based insurance, while a hilariously American institution, falls under the category of dumb poo poo your work does. Watching a company choose a dental insurance that doesn't have a single in-network dentist in the state is pretty dumb!

MarxCarl
Jul 18, 2003

For my old jobs insurance you had to do a yearly biometric screening for employee and spouse if they were on the plan. BMI too high, better get on an exercise plan or $500 more a year. Smoker and not on a cessation plan, $500 more a year. They were mighty nice to waive it in 2020 and 2021 for Covid, but rumor was if you weren't vaxxed, that was gonna be another fee coming this year.

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:

Evilreaver posted:

I do court reporting for Social Security Disability hearings. There is one ALJ (judge) who has absolutely no sympathy for anyone and it's rough to listen to (most judges are okay). It's hard for me to judge how cases turn out because (a) I'm not told and not supposed to know, and (b) I don't get to see the medical records people bring in which may support/contradict their testimony.

ANYWAY! Two cases with this judge stick with me. First, we had a multiple-cancer survivor who was basically that one bit from Spongebob: "I have glass bones and paper skin. I break my legs when I wake up and my arms every night. I cry in bed each night until my heart attacks put me to sleep. I'm depressed because I can't take my dog out for a walk anymore."

After the hearing off the record, :jerkbag: "I'm not giving that guy SSD just because he has a dog."

The other was much less dramatic, but along the lines of "I have multiple slipped discs in my back and can't stand or walk for more than a minute before I have to lie down for the rest of the day."
:jerkbag: "You got back pain? Have you tried one of THESE?" :smug: [pulls out lumbar support pillow]

Something something in Minecraft. What a piece of poo poo.

Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously

Evilreaver posted:

I do court reporting for Social Security Disability hearings. There is one ALJ (judge) who has absolutely no sympathy for anyone and it's rough to listen to (most judges are okay). It's hard for me to judge how cases turn out because (a) I'm not told and not supposed to know, and (b) I don't get to see the medical records people bring in which may support/contradict their testimony.

ANYWAY! Two cases with this judge stick with me. First, we had a multiple-cancer survivor who was basically that one bit from Spongebob: "I have glass bones and paper skin. I break my legs when I wake up and my arms every night. I cry in bed each night until my heart attacks put me to sleep. I'm depressed because I can't take my dog out for a walk anymore."

After the hearing off the record, :jerkbag: "I'm not giving that guy SSD just because he has a dog."

The other was much less dramatic, but along the lines of "I have multiple slipped discs in my back and can't stand or walk for more than a minute before I have to lie down for the rest of the day."
:jerkbag: "You got back pain? Have you tried one of THESE?" :smug: [pulls out lumbar support pillow]

Ugh holy cow that's bad

blackmet
Aug 5, 2006

I believe there is a universal Truth to the process of doing things right (Not that I have any idea what that actually means).

Zero One posted:

At least they gave us more options than a single high deductible HSA plan this year.

I stuck with the HSA

So did I. I don't think they're going to keep those additional options for more than a year or two, I'm fairly sure they were only introduced to keep the merger employees from mutinying. Why bother getting used to something better?

That reminds me, I need to track my water intake to get 20 points to put towards my HSA award...oh, who am I kidding, I'm never going to do that!

Zero One
Dec 30, 2004

HAIL TO THE VICTORS!

blackmet posted:

So did I. I don't think they're going to keep those additional options for more than a year or two, I'm fairly sure they were only introduced to keep the merger employees from mutinying. Why bother getting used to something better?

That reminds me, I need to track my water intake to get 20 points to put towards my HSA award...oh, who am I kidding, I'm never going to do that!

:ssh: a bunch of those activities you just self certify with no verification. "Learn about your 401k plan"? Sure I know of the 401k. Done. "Take a screen break". I'm sure I look away sometimes. Done. "Go to the doctor". Oh yeah. Totally. Done.

Atopian
Sep 23, 2014

I need a security perimeter with Venetian blinds.

Zero One posted:

:ssh: a bunch of those activities you just self certify with no verification. "Learn about your 401k plan"? Sure I know of the 401k. Done. "Take a screen break". I'm sure I look away sometimes. Done. "Go to the doctor". Oh yeah. Totally. Done.

Beware.
It is possible to use self-certification as an attack later, or to dispute/deny claims.

A MINIATURE LLAMA
Jul 30, 2009

IT'S SO TINY

boar guy posted:

"failure to plan on your part does not constitute an emergency on mine"

The entire project ended up getting delayed until September.

blackmet
Aug 5, 2006

I believe there is a universal Truth to the process of doing things right (Not that I have any idea what that actually means).

Zero One posted:

:ssh: a bunch of those activities you just self certify with no verification. "Learn about your 401k plan"? Sure I know of the 401k. Done. "Take a screen break". I'm sure I look away sometimes. Done. "Go to the doctor". Oh yeah. Totally. Done.

I look away about 4-5X each day when I go to my backyard and smoke a cigarette!

Eh, it could be worse. I did get to go full remote in a completely different city. The job isn't really that bad -- I've been around long enough that I can do it in my sleep, I get along with my manager and most of my coworkers most of the time, the vacation time is generous, I can self direct a lot of the time provided I'm available to put out fires, and the pay is good enough at this point that the emergency room bill won't be a life-altering catastrophe, even in the worst case.

I'm mostly just bored. At the moment, I'm phone posting, drinking coffee, and just sort of sitting around in available just in case someone needs me on Teams. Later I get to learn how to use a macro that's literally written in Comic Sans font to be the backup to the backup for creating reports that nobody reads or understands!

Machai
Feb 21, 2013

Evilreaver posted:

:jerkbag: "You got back pain? Have you tried one of THESE?" :smug: [pulls out lumbar support pillow]

Does he just have that on hand to use as a prop to deny people social security?

COPE 27
Sep 11, 2006

I think they just deny everything and the appeal is where the decision is really made.

Like all American social programs the goal is to weed people out through attrition, thereby technically not discriminating against poor/black people but also not having to tax corporations and rich people to pay for the provisions of an advanced society.

boar guy
Jan 25, 2007

lol HR just mandated that you're not allowed to discuss who has had covid and who hasn't or who doesn't and who does with co workers

edit: hipaa i guess?

boar guy fucked around with this message at 16:46 on Jun 14, 2022

Evilreaver
Feb 26, 2007

GEORGE IS GETTIN' AUGMENTED!
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Machai posted:

Does he just have that on hand to use as a prop to deny people social security?

No he uses it to cure his back pain, so other people just aren't trying hard enough, obviously

Edit: to be perfectly clear he may very well have approved both of those claims. I don't have access to that information, but ALJs have their hands tied by regulations in a lot of ways

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


It's probably not actually a HIPAA violation but lol if HR understands or cares about the nuances of the law.

boar guy
Jan 25, 2007

ultrafilter posted:

It's probably not actually a HIPAA violation but lol if HR understands or cares about the nuances of the law.

oh i guarantee it's just because the owner said that he didn't want people talking about it

wonder if it has anything to do with the 40% callout rate yesterday after the allhands in person event last friday, lmfao of course it does

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

yeah, hipaa applies to health care providers and insurance companies and maybe people with privileged access like HR, not to random people discussing other people's health.

There would probably be some kind of argument if, for example, HR was publicly posting a list of people who had been vaccinated. This is just them trying to avoid drama in the office. Which is itself them trying to avoid people having important yet uncomfortable discussions about matters that directly affect them by throwing it under the headline of "drama."

You know, kind of like they also do with discouraging employees from discussing compensation with each other.

Dongsturm
Feb 17, 2012

boar guy posted:

lol HR just mandated that you're not allowed to discuss who has had covid and who hasn't or who doesn't and who does with co workers

edit: hipaa i guess?

Unless you work at a hospital, it's probably not HIPAA. Go ahead and gossip.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIQLqQA_hyA

Johnny Truant
Jul 22, 2008




I have worked with HIPAA for almost a decade now and it's not a HIPAA violation, put signs up, create COVID groups in Teams, whatever the gently caress!

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Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously

ultrafilter posted:

It's probably not actually a HIPAA violation but lol if HR understands or cares about the nuances of the law.

I'm working on a project with HR and my main contact learns fast, cares about successfully implementing a program that will measurably help the company, and is pleasant to talk with. Because it's our Canada HR dept.

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