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In terms of accent crimes, who can forget Kendra's...whatever that was. I heard the actress playing her could do a proper Jamaican accent, but the production thought the audience would struggle with it and this was the compromise they came up with.
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"dees ees a vompiyah, i om a vompiyah suh-laaayah" Perfect...cut!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFhkKOLbo5Y lol @ there being a slayer handbook but giles not giving it to buffy
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Khanstant posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFhkKOLbo5Y It’s the giant gently caress off book from episode one. That’s the joke after the joke.
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Jun 14, 2022 07:15
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That giant gently caress-off book got SO much power in the comics. To write in it meant to change reality to fit what you wrote. WTF. I'm glad Buffy and Angel didn't continue. To have no impediments in a comic makes the writing go up its own rear end.
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Pan Dulce posted:That giant gently caress-off book got SO much power in the comics. To write in it meant to change reality to fit what you wrote. WTF. I'm glad Buffy and Angel didn't continue. To have no impediments in a comic makes the writing go up its own rear end. The current comic from Boom, what I've read of it is... fine. They don't do anything wild but reading the comic month to month it honestly feels like it skips an issue with how things progress. One of the main cast is a villain now, nobody seems to care very much. It's weird. Again, fine, but weird.
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an animated series would probably be a good fit for buffy, i'm surprised they've never tried it. they destroyed the world of the show in s7 with all that infinite slayer stuff, so they'd have to either ignore or walk it back, but i think it would suit how cartoonish the world is anyway and also probably be a good fit with the audience demographics. probably just invent a new slayer in a new fake town. it would need some good writers though, who understand that the quotidian stuff was more important to the appeal of this world than the mythology.
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roomtone posted:an animated series would probably be a good fit for buffy, i'm surprised they've never tried it. Awwwww 
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Jun 14, 2022 17:19
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ahahaha, i see. they did try in 2002 - okay, well that was a different era. they should try again.
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roomtone posted:ahahaha, i see. they did try in 2002 - okay, well that was a different era. they should try again. For what it's worth, iirc, one of the Buffy Comics did a whole issue set in what that Cartoon Universe would have been like
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roomtone posted:ahahaha, i see. they did try in 2002 - okay, well that was a different era. they should try again. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnUvZP7-5LM For those who haven't seen it, here was the mock-up. Even if it doesn't have Sarah Michelle Gellar's voice, it still was a pretty good match.
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roomtone posted:an animated series would probably be a good fit for buffy, i'm surprised they've never tried it. they destroyed the world of the show in s7 with all that infinite slayer stuff, so they'd have to either ignore or walk it back, but i think it would suit how cartoonish the world is anyway and also probably be a good fit with the audience demographics. probably just invent a new slayer in a new fake town. As noted it was tried, but also there's plenty of supernatural poo poo in the world and there's no reason a show couldn't focus on Muffy the Vampire Slayer in Cleveland or something and maybe have Buffy guest star.
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The crazy-go-nuts post-show Buffyverse seems perfect for the kind of multiverse canonstravaganza many media properties are today. Into the Buffyverse.
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Ooh a Buffy thread!Khanstant posted:The crazy-go-nuts post-show Buffyverse seems perfect for the kind of multiverse canonstravaganza many media properties are today. Into the Buffyverse. Unfortunately the comics have also been getting a bit off the rails incomprehensible as well, but ehh that's comic books for ya Still, the one great thing about this particular series is that it was eventually revealed, two years and twenty-five issues into its run, that it all takes place in the world without shrimp. No, seriously. 
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BrianWilly posted:Ooh a Buffy thread! So Red Lobster had a much harder time in that world?
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BrianWilly posted:Ooh a Buffy thread! sign me up, i made some friggin jalepeno poppers the other day and they had friggin shrimps hidden inside where i assumed cheese would be and im still mad at shrimp about it!!!
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Pan Dulce posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnUvZP7-5LM It's kind of funny they have everybody else's actor, but this was pre-HIMYM for Hannigan I guess. BrianWilly posted:Someone mentioned the 2019 Boom Studios comics earlier; they've recently leaned hard into the multiverse thing, with one large storyline outright culminating in gathering a bunch of Buffys from a bunch of worlds. I swear I read it month to month and it still feels like it's skipping things.
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BrianWilly posted:Ooh a Buffy thread! Do any of them have an eye-patch? This is an important metric for judging quality.
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Xiahou Dun posted:Do any of them have an eye-patch? This is an important metric for judging quality. No, but there's a Buffy who's built like a brick shithouse and benchpresses U-Hauls. A buff Buffy. I've seen it compared to Marvel's Ultimate imprint and with the pacing it does kind of feel like that. The non-Bendis stuff at least.
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The art through the arc unfortunately does no one any favors. As you can tell from the dialogue...that's supposed to be Joyce 
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The Boom comic has plenty of ideas and changes I like, and I think (as far as I can tell) they've done away with the whole notion of "soul" the way Buffy used it for vamps. But unfortunately it's so confusingly written that I can't recommend it. It's not even that the plot is convoluted, it's that it fails to properly explain what's happening in a relatively straightforward plot. That twist with the shrimp though... now that was 
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On Target's Buy 2, Get 1 Free book sale, I took advantage and bought a ton of Buffy Boom! comics. They only go up to 4 on that site and the side comics, but I'm looking forward to having them, maybe posting here sometimes about them.
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BrianWilly posted:
Ha, have they also shown the universe that is nothing BUT shrimp that Illyria mentioned in Angel?
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Gnome de plume posted:No, but there's a Buffy who's built like a brick shithouse and benchpresses U-Hauls. A buff Buffy. Yeah, sorry. That is a dropped ball right there.
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Buffy is a concept that only works because of SMG and the other core actors (but mainly SMG who perfectly understands how to thread the serious/sincere poo poo with "this is campy trash just embrace it") Without her and to a much lesser extent ASH, AH, NB, EC, ect its just awful generic fanfic (what all comics are)
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i never really appreciated buffy/smg at all when i watched it as a kid. she wasn't as funny as the other characters, and i probably was less interested in her by default because she was a girl and that wasn't interesting to me at the time, but she gets asked to do just about everything over the course of the seven seasons and while the other main cast (except anthony stewart head, probably) struggles at SOME point, especially when the writing is degrading, i don't think she misses a single moment. there's no bit she does that puts me off. her career afterwards never really happened for some reason, and it might just be that she played buffy so well that anybody who knew about her wasn't interested in seeing her not be buffy
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roomtone posted:i never really appreciated buffy/smg at all when i watched it as a kid. she wasn't as funny as the other characters, and i probably was less interested in her by default because she was a girl and that wasn't interesting to me at the time, but she gets asked to do just about everything over the course of the seven seasons and while the other main cast (except anthony stewart head, probably) struggles at SOME point, especially when the writing is degrading, i don't think she misses a single moment. there's no bit she does that puts me off. her career afterwards never really happened for some reason, and it might just be that she played buffy so well that anybody who knew about her wasn't interested in seeing her not be buffy It probably doesn't help the movies she did while Buffy was hot were, you know, like Cruel Intentions and I Know What You Did Last Summer even though she's fine in both but turd polishing and the impossibility thereof.
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She did Cruel Intentions, too. And the Scooby-Doo movies which were just blonder buffy
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Anyone ever see Ocean's 8? The ending that Anne Hatheway's character got is the ending/life that Sarah Michelle Gellar should have gotten for being just a consummate loving professional in everything she ever did. Even the weird movie with the crab.
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SMG is really impressive. Getting started in soap operas, or at least having your early career now, is like the acting version of special forces camp. (Gellar won a Daytime Emmy there, even.) It probably explains her professionalism because soap opera filming doesn't have time to mess around.
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Buffy herself is definitely a character I appreciate more with age. She's not as kooky as the others and doesn't have huge character development spikes like them but she doesn't need all that to be interesting and likable. SMG was the perfect choice for the role.
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Dawgstar posted:SMG is really impressive. Getting started in soap operas, or at least having your early career now, is like the acting version of special forces camp. (Gellar won a Daytime Emmy there, even.) It probably explains her professionalism because soap opera filming doesn't have time to mess around. You left out the part that's most impressive. She got started in soap opera at 14 and went to All My Children at 16. And on AMC she played Kendall Hart main diva character Erica Kane's 23 year old daughter-by-rape. So, not a kiddie role on that show either. Stretching your analogy a bit further, SMG trained as a actor Navy SEAL and then had to go kill bin Laden.
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Still astounds me that SMG auditioned for Cordelia and got the lead and Charisma Carpenter auditioned for Buffy and got Cordelia Chase. In some alternate universe, they got both of them in the roles they auditioned for. Wonder how that would've looked?
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Pan Dulce posted:Still astounds me that SMG auditioned for Cordelia and got the lead and Charisma Carpenter auditioned for Buffy and got Cordelia Chase. In some alternate universe, they got both of them in the roles they auditioned for. Wonder how that would've looked? Sarah Michelle Gellar would have done fine as Cordelia Chase because consummate professional. I don't think Charisma would have done quite as well playing Buffy. She'd likely have leaned hard into the Kristy Swanson characterization unless I miss my guess. It might have made the Buffy/Angel scenes slightly less creepy since Carpenter looked like the late 20s she was.
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Yeah, Carpenter never quite managed to pull of 'teenager.' At least on Angel they politely ignored she was just out of high school.
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Yeah. I got the intention in the first few episodes was to suggest that she was just out of highschool and struggling to stay above water in a big city, but the character always read completely differently -- like it'd been at least five years since highschool, and she'd been stuck in a rut doing humiliating part-time work. She feels a lot more beaten down right from the start, like she's normalised surviving in the big city. There's not a lot of naivety there. By the time you get to late Season 3 she's completely transitioned into an hippie earth mother (which I'll always argue was Jasmine's influence) and she's suddenly calling people "honey" and "baby" and it feels like she's just zoomed into her late thirties. Honestly, Carpenter does a decent job differentiating the two different versions of the character early on in Season 4. I think her acting isn't the greatest midseason, particularly during Orpheus -- though the more I've heard about it, I can see why she'd be checked out -- but I really like what she does for a lot of the show.
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She felt like a college graduate more than high school. Plus their actual high school looked like a college campus and they were constantly hanging out at that bar. That whole setting of meeting friends and events going down at a central venue location didn't make much sense to me until a decade later when I was in college, working in service industry where the social circle & web naturally congregated at bars. I forget that it's not "her" show. In my head and memories she's the Buffy of Angel, it's funny when rewatching it because I forget about and still halfway tune out the long Angel only stretches. He wasn't my favourite when show was new either, but nowadays feel just rotates between creepy, corny, and boringly mopey.
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i listen to buffy podcasts at work sometimes and i finally found a good one that wasn't just two theatre nerds in their 30's with occasional ukelele skits, but they only did up until ep 1 of season 2 then abruptly stopped because the joss complaints were revived/expanded around that time and so the guy just said he didn't want to do the podcast anymore. loving joss!!! this one was actually making me laugh.Open Source Idiom posted:Honestly, Carpenter does a decent job differentiating the two different versions of the character early on in Season 4. I think her acting isn't the greatest midseason, particularly during Orpheus -- though the more I've heard about it, I can see why she'd be checked out -- but I really like what she does for a lot of the show. yeah she was pregnant and most of her scenes had her minimally mobile, the story loving sucked and this was probably the nadir of her and the producers' relations, so i wouldn't hold any crappy performance in s4 (and it was crappy) against her actual abilities. she did great with everything before that. roomtone fucked around with this message at 07:07 on Jun 16, 2022 |
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Speaking of Cordy, I saw this and immediately agreed with the sentiment: Willow has never been my favorite since the college years. She's inherently selfish and motivated by what she thinks is best for everyone, imposing her own will on things, literally.
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