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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:
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Electro-Boogie Jack posted:As we can see, though, 'protective equipment' like a crosswalk absolutely does not protect people; paint is not protection. And I'm pretty clearly not drawing an equivalence between walking and cycling per se but rather between the danger you're exposed to as a pedestrian or cyclist, and that danger is not by any means a false equivalence based on how many cyclists and pedestrians end up dead or disabled every year. Very interesting chart, but fatalities is kind of a crude metric. Wearing a helmet can spare you from brain damage and the ensuing disabilities. Really though, I don’t understand why helmet wearers get so bent out of shape over it. Not wearing a helmet is a big self-own. If you wanna risk your health like that, have at it
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Gripweed posted:done grinding my rear end into dust on my cyberpunk bike seat,
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Gripweed posted:done nice car rear end in a top hat
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mawarannahr posted:nice car rear end in a top hat that’s right
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Gripweed posted:done how many large dogs can you fit in that thing?
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BIG-DICK-BUTT-gently caress posted:Very interesting chart, but fatalities is kind of a crude metric. Wearing a helmet can spare you from brain damage and the ensuing disabilities. I know a couple of people who are only alive because of wearing a helmet biking. I think it's bad when people die completely preventable deaths or get preventable brain damage 
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Just snuck in a nice long ride before the storm stared. Feeling blessed today
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:grinding my rear end into dust on my cyberpunk bike seat, it doesn't look like it has pedals so this is less of an issue. actually, I can't tell where the hell your feet are supposed to go. do they just dangle down by the propeller?
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Clark Nova posted:it doesn't look like it has pedals so this is less of an issue. actually, I can't tell where the hell your feet are supposed to go. do they just dangle down by the propeller? Grats on thinking more about this than the guy who made this mock-up.
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Clark Nova posted:it doesn't look like it has pedals so this is less of an issue. actually, I can't tell where the hell your feet are supposed to go. do they just dangle down by the propeller? 
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https://twitter.com/CarlZha/status/1536719441680928768 wtf 
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by the year 2030 or 2040 the china / us divide is going to be hilarious. they're going to have teleporters and food replicators, while we drive rusted hulks to walmart to pay $100k for expired dog insulin
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Polo-Rican posted:by the year 2030 or 2040 the china / us divide is going to be hilarious. they're going to have teleporters and food replicators, while we drive rusted hulks to walmart to pay $100k for expired dog insulin Our media will still talk about how America is the greatest country on earth and will refer to residents of more developed countries as "villagers" like they did the Japanese during the Fukoshima disaster.
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Anything China does is automatically bad so it's going to take like 30 years of the rest of the world massively expanding investment in transit before it will even start to occur to the US that it might have done something wrong by continuing to focus on cars. Also for at least 50% of americans it doesn't matter because the lovely suburban lifestyle where you spend half your life in traffic is what they want even if trains in the entire rest of the world start being massively faster than cars. Plus, self driving cars are going to magically make driving faster in the future so why bother doing stuff? It really sucks to think how much money the world has poured into loving everything up with cars and how great transit could have been by now with all that money instead. mystes has issued a correction as of 16:21 on Jun 14, 2022 |
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Gripweed posted:https://twitter.com/papapishu/status/1536530942080212992?s=21&t=9a6P6__2WHdTqrnyMj2Mhw Buy a golf cart, why do I keep having to say this.
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I think that's basically what Smart was but I guess they stopped selling them in the US. Also, all new cars are too expensive now though. But luckily making cars cheaper isn't the problem we need to work on anyway mystes has issued a correction as of 16:37 on Jun 14, 2022 |
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mystes posted:Anything China does is automatically bad so it's going to take like 30 years of the rest of the world massively expanding investment in transit before it will even start to occur to the US that it might have done something wrong by continuing to focus on cars. Also for at least 50% of americans it doesn't matter because the lovely suburban lifestyle where you spend half your life in traffic is what they want even if trains in the entire rest of the world start being massively faster than cars. Plus, self driving cars are going to magically make driving faster in the future so why bother doing stuff? racism is a major factor so the US is completely brain damaged and self inflicted because cars were the dogwhistle segregation with urban planning revolving around it. Who do you think were first in line to get cars and could afford them in the first place. The demon crackers, thats who thats why there's still a social status myth tied to it, and people are too indoctrinated to see how batshit that is
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I don't think it's entirely "the US rejects everything China does BECAUSE of racism." A lot of it is just "the US can't accept the idea that any country could be better than the US in any way, so it latches on to any excuse (including racism) for why what China is doing isn't actually better even when it's complete nonsense." We also do the same thing about transit in other countries, but China is more comparable to the US in various ways including size, so some of the excuses we use for other countries don't really work for China and we have to fall back on "building trains is evil communism" or "the trains must secretly be defective" or something which can be quite racist but I feel like a lot of the underlying motivation is just Americans being so fragile that they literally can't accept even the teensiest tiniest bit of criticism whatsoever. mystes has issued a correction as of 16:43 on Jun 14, 2022 |
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crash requirements are probably the biggest hurdle but small cars are so much better than anything. My first car that i bought myself, for better or worse, was a brand new base model 2004 honda civic coupe which weighed 2200lbs and i could stick my foot out the door and pedal it along it was so light and it made me really appreciate weight (or lack of really) as a feature of a vehicle
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Gripweed posted:https://twitter.com/papapishu/status/1536530942080212992?s=21&t=9a6P6__2WHdTqrnyMj2Mhw This is the least expensive new vehicle on the Ford lot closest to me  lmaooooo
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:This is the least expensive new vehicle on the Ford lot closest to me If car prices continue to go up because of supply chain issues/inflation/car companies not bothering to make cheaper cars/americans refusing to by non-SUVs, IMO the most plausible solution that that the US will try to come up with is probably.... something like Fannie Mae to ensure most Americans can take out loans to buy $200,000k cars. As this gets worse, any attempt to discourage cars will just be dismissed even more strongly as being anti-poor people.
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mystes posted:I don't think it's entirely "the US rejects everything China does BECAUSE of racism." A lot of it is just "the US can't accept the idea that any country could be better than the US in any way, so it latches on to any excuse (including racism) for why what China is doing isn't actually better even when it's complete nonsense." im more referring to a historical precedent that shapes cultural attitudes in invisible ways so its absolutely a factor to the intransigience agents of white supremacists use cars as a culture war cudgel without being aware of the tradition, but they know that it feels right to do so instinctually without having to look up the history because cars are american as apple pie  the superiority mentality literally comes from that, and the criticism is percieved as an attack on their vacuum reality and way of life our economic ethos, modus operandi, is predicated on racism 100% baked into it. Being sinophobic only bolsters that unwillingness to concede and adapt Lastgirl has issued a correction as of 17:04 on Jun 14, 2022 |
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BIG-DICK-BUTT-gently caress posted:Very interesting chart, but fatalities is kind of a crude metric. Wearing a helmet can spare you from brain damage and the ensuing disabilities. A helmet may do this, yes. Overall the odds are pretty good that it will. But it definitely won't do anything about serious or fatal injuries sustained by any other part of the body. The only way to prevent that is to prevent people from being hit in the first place, which is why it's useful to distinguish between the helmet as a piece of protective gear that's fairly effective at preventing certain types of injuries and the helmet as it exists for car-brained policy-makers, police, politicians, and the public at large, for whom it's a substitute for safe streets and a means of shifting the responsibility for injuries and deaths away from drivers and traffic engineers and the guys who design 9000 lb trucks and towards cyclists instead. Take another look at that chart with our sky-high helmet use rates and also sky-high death rates and then think about the hierarchy of controls used to prevent workplace deaths and injuries. It's the same principle, and that's what every PSA about bike helmets promoted by a city/state/national government that insists on maintaining insanely dangerous roads is trying to paper over.  in summary, i hate cars
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:This is the least expensive new vehicle on the Ford lot closest to me that same vehicle where I am is 30k lol this was the cheapest vehicle I found I think my parents actually got one of these, they are going down to one car which is good, but they can't really do electric because they live in a giant senior co-op, and the logistics of providing chargers for all the ~100 parking spots wouldn't work, mainly from the standpoint of how to bill each unit for their space's usage
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actionjackson posted:that same vehicle where I am is 30k lol Ecosport is discontinued now The issue is that these things are getting insanely more expensive and there's nothing replacing them, no other options, no humancentric development, just the idea that Americans should just pay half their gross income to commute to work forever.
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if people are truly concerned about people surviving their bike trips please start posting "twenty is plenty" at everyone, tia. People drive way too loving fast and they must be stopped
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Jokerpilled Drudge posted:if people are truly concerned about people surviving their bike trips please start posting "twenty is plenty" at everyone, tia. People drive way too loving fast and they must be stopped
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Just a reminder that drivers pass closer to bicyclists who wear helmets: https://www.bicycling.com/news/a25358099/drivers-give-helmet-cyclists-less-room/ Gee, I wonder if that has anything to do with the high helmet-wearing rates along with the simultaneously high fatality rates in the US, a country with some of the worst bicycle infrastructure in the world?
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Jokerpilled Drudge posted:"twenty is plenty" our absolutely worthless department of transportation, which is currently just a few years away from closing out a decade-long Vision Zero campaign with a higher death rate than when the campaign began, had a huge rollout for lawn signs here last year. this picture of the department director is somewhere so deep on the infuriating/cringe axis that I can't bear to look at it for long https://twitter.com/DDOTDCDirector/status/1432363495585107973 holding a sign too small for drivers to see, facing the opposite way of oncoming traffic, desperately begging drivers to slow down in lieu of doing anything that would actually make drivers slow down. loving humiliating. and meanwhile if you have a request for a new stop sign on your block or a protected bike lane to get you around town, they're happy to say no to that.
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Electro-Boogie Jack posted:our absolutely worthless department of transportation, which is currently just a few years away from closing out a decade-long Vision Zero campaign with a higher death rate than when the campaign began, had a huge rollout for lawn signs here last year. this picture of the department director is somewhere so deep on the infuriating/cringe axis that I can't bear to look at it for long Minnesota ftw
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Ham Equity posted:Just a reminder that drivers pass closer to bicyclists who wear helmets:  Love the stock image for "a car just cut me off but an extermination-level meteor is about to hit the earth so I guess it doesn't matter, huh" mystes has issued a correction as of 18:13 on Jun 14, 2022 |
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