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twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

OnimaruXLR posted:

I know there's a lot of debate about what Christ looked like, but I am pretty sure he wasn't made of black and yellow pixels, nor did he have ridiculous triangular hair

why do they have hair like that anyway? Aren't they supposed to be avian? Is there some genus of triangular birds I'm not aware of?

Jay and Miles don't call the Shi'ar Space Bird Jerks for nothing.

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SlimGoodbody
Oct 20, 2003

site posted:

i really get why he has to have a different hair color, beard, and glasses irl because if someone ever saw homelander starr in the street he'd probably get ran over in the grocery store parking lot

I feel kinda bad for him cause he kills it so hard at being this disgusting, pathetic, terrifying manchild slimebag genocidal murderer that I could easily see people's knee jerk reaction being to yell "gently caress Homelander!" as they drive by.

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!


OTOH they're doing a good job this season showing how the kinds of people who would do that would fully agree with and be on board with Homelander

Barry Convex
Sep 1, 2005

Think of the good things, Pim! The good things!

Like Jesus, candy, and crackerjacks! Ice cream and cake and lots o'laffs!
Grandma, Grandpa, and Uncle Joe! Larry, Curly, and brother Moe!
no spoilers but Ms. Marvel is still good. seems like next episode will start leaning harder into the superhero aspect and less into the family dramedy that's taken up most of the first two episodes, so we'll have to see how well it handles that transition

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


I laughed at the Paul Rudd joke.

Codependent Poster
Oct 20, 2003

Ms. Marvel is great.

I'm actually surprised how much I like Bruno too, since in the comics I was mostly meh on him.

site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch

muscles like this! posted:

I laughed at the Paul Rudd joke.

same

the kingo dynasty callback was good too

Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Say Watt?

Kind of annoying that both this and Kenobi come out the same day. I know Disney+'s output was always going to increase to the point they had multiple new shows happening at once but I feel like there must be other days for new episodes to drop. Not a huge deal but I wonder why they did it. I imagine there's some good overlap between the two shows so it's not like they're counterprogramming.

site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch
star wars used to be fridays i don't know why obi wan and mm are both wednesdays this time around

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


I feel bad for Kamala since even if Kamran actually liked her its not like she can trust him after this. Also since the bangle was a family thing I'm wondering if there's going to be a thing where she's part alien since there isn't a ton known about her mother's side of the family.

site posted:

star wars used to be fridays i don't know why obi wan and mm are both wednesdays this time around

They put Loki on Wednesday and it got super ratings so they decided that everything TV related is going to drop on Wednesday now.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Yeah, it wasn't a Star Wars vs. Marvel thing. All their shows were Fridays but then they moved Loki, it worked out, and they're all Wednesday now.

They even already had Loki simultaneous with Bad Batch.

Obiwan was meant to be the 25th but was pushed 2 days for the premiere episodes only. They never explained why.

Aphrodite fucked around with this message at 01:40 on Jun 16, 2022

Karma Tornado
Dec 21, 2007

The worst kind of tornado.

I bet it put enough episodes before the Emmy nominations cutoff for the year, like they needed a percentage of them to air before the end of May for it to count as this year instead of next.

howe_sam
Mar 7, 2013

Creepy little garbage eaters

Aphrodite posted:

Obiwan was meant to be the 25th but was pushed 2 days for the premiere episodes only. They never explained why.

The most obvious answer was so they could do a premiere event screening at Star Wars Celebration.

I mean yes, they knew when celebration was happening when they originally announced the obi-wan premiere, but that still seems like the simplest answer.

TwoPair
Mar 28, 2010

Pandamn It Feels Good To Be A Gangsta
Grimey Drawer

muscles like this! posted:

I feel bad for Kamala since even if Kamran actually liked her its not like she can trust him after this. Also since the bangle was a family thing I'm wondering if there's going to be a thing where she's part alien since there isn't a ton known about her mother's side of the family.

After the Kingo mention my theory is that he knocked up Kamala's great-grandma and maybe the bangle activates some latent Eternal powers.

However I don't like this because anything that tries to make me care about the Eternals is a big negative in my book

SlimGoodbody
Oct 20, 2003

TwoPair posted:

After the Kingo mention my theory is that he knocked up Kamala's great-grandma and maybe the bangle activates some latent Eternal powers.

However I don't like this because anything that tries to make me care about the Eternals is a big negative in my book

Someone on Twitter was making the fair criticism that the MCU is really weirdly sexless, and it made me try to remember any times the MCU wasn't rather dry and prudish in its approach to human interactions. The only thing that came to mind was that one truly impressively bad attempt at a sex scene in Eternals. It had all the chemistry and eroticism of a bag of UNICEF pennies. That entire film is so bizarrely stilted. It's like an AI wrote it, and it might have the most boring, least consequential antagonists of the entire MCU.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!
The Avengers was pretty much the tipping point for that, before that hit big the movies had the occasional bit of PG level thirst scenes.

IM had the morning after scene with Leslie Bibb, IM2 had Scarlet Johanson doing yoga poses and Captain America and Thor both had the female lead thirsting for a shirtless hero scenes.

Macdeo Lurjtux fucked around with this message at 15:20 on Jun 16, 2022

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.
I'm trying to remember a single on screen kiss in the MCU and can't, they have to exist, right? like RDJR and Gwyneth Paltrow or Hemsworth and Portman? but I can't actually remember it.

Oh there was a scene in Winter Soldier where Cap and Black Widow went to a mall to use a computer and she kisses Cap to hide from Hydra people

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


Steve and Sharon in Civil War

howe_sam
Mar 7, 2013

Creepy little garbage eaters

The last shot of Endgame is a kiss!

Sentinel Red
Nov 13, 2007
Style > Content.
Hank catches Scott and Hope kissing in one film, no?

For the most part though, it feels like those who complain the most about it are just using it as another stick to batter them with and don't actually want or care about such scenes anyway. I mean hell, there are countless genre flicks from the last 40 years with practically zero romance going on but you never hear about people making a big deal out of them for being 'sexless' for not shoehorning in some smooching.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Sentinel Red posted:

Hank catches Scott and Hope kissing in one film, no?

For the most part though, it feels like those who complain the most about it are just using it as another stick to batter them with and don't actually want or care about such scenes anyway. I mean hell, there are countless genre flicks from the last 40 years with practically zero romance going on but you never hear about people making a big deal out of them for being 'sexless' for not shoehorning in some smooching.

What genre films from the last 40 years don't have sex?

Joe Fisto
Dec 6, 2002

And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him.

Skwirl posted:

What genre films from the last 40 years don't have sex?

Oh poo poo the Marvel movies are undercover Mormon films!

LennyBriscoCountyJr
Oct 20, 2005

Don't Gamora and Quill kiss in Infinity War? The scene with Drax moving so slowly he thinks he can't be seen.

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

Sgt. Politeness posted:

I was a little worried about colorism when they announced her casting but I have to admit they really nailed it(again), she's perfect.

At this rate whoever is doing Marvel's casting should get paid RDJ money.
Her name is Sarah Finn and she is absolutely Marvel's secret weapon. 80% of the MCU's success is because of Kevin Feige, and she's the other 20. And yeah, she's done it again; I don't know how they keep pulling movie stars fully formed right out of thin goddamn air, but goddamn if they haven't done it again. Iman Vellani's gonna be huge.

Also, having a full on musical dance sequence in her own show is the most Kamala Khan thing possible and I loved it so much.

Opopanax posted:

OTOH they're doing a good job this season showing how the kinds of people who would do that would fully agree with and be on board with Homelander
Oh god yeah. That single moment when Homelander is giving his unhinged "I am superior and the rules don't apply to me" rant and they cut to MM's ex-wife's boyfriend, the Averagest White Boy, leaning forward like he's finally found true love? That was the most chilling thing I've seen in the entire series so far. It loving dropkicks anything they tried to accomplish with Stormfront right into the garbage.

Skwirl posted:

What genre films from the last 40 years don't have sex?
Every Star Wars, every Harry Potter, every Lord of the Rings, every Star Trek, Pacific Rim, Independence Day, both Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Aquaman, both Venoms, Justice League, Superman I, III, IV, and Man of Steel, Shazam, Morbius, technically the Hunger Games and Twilights but those are both very horny franchises, the Raimi Spider-Mans, the Amazing Spider-Mans, every Fantastic Beasts...

this is more of a "try to remember every genre film from the last 40 years" exercise than anything.

Barry Convex
Sep 1, 2005

Think of the good things, Pim! The good things!

Like Jesus, candy, and crackerjacks! Ice cream and cake and lots o'laffs!
Grandma, Grandpa, and Uncle Joe! Larry, Curly, and brother Moe!
I guess this is the Disney+ comedy series Cretton was doing?

https://twitter.com/THR/status/1537512083251765256

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

CapnAndy posted:

Every Star Wars, every Harry Potter, every Lord of the Rings, every Star Trek, Pacific Rim, Independence Day, both Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Aquaman, both Venoms, Justice League, Superman I, III, IV, and Man of Steel, Shazam, Morbius, technically the Hunger Games and Twilights but those are both very horny franchises, the Raimi Spider-Mans, the Amazing Spider-Mans, every Fantastic Beasts...

Most of these movies are horny as gently caress what are you on about

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!


I assume they won't but I really hope they keep Fillion

SlimGoodbody
Oct 20, 2003

ruddiger posted:

Most of these movies are horny as gently caress what are you on about

Star Trek literally got in trouble for being too horny

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to
It kinda reminds me of the complaint i saw about MoM where America wasn't "gay enough" in the movie. Uh when could they insert a scene of her kissing another woman? The whole movie is her running from being murdered, there wasn't really time for romance in that.

Ditto Strange and Other Christine, like they're trying to stop the end of all existence, oops gotta take some time out for smooching.

ilikedirt
Oct 15, 2004

king of posting
Im glad theyve stopped shoehorning romance subplots into movies tbh, i dont really give a gently caress about superheroes love lives. It always felt very lazy and forced and im not looking to watch people gently caress in my people punching each other while wearing a wrestling costume movies

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


Most of the time it seems like it was just there to make sure the audience knew the hero has a case of the not-gays.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

muscles like this! posted:

Most of the time it seems like it was just there to make sure the audience knew the hero has a case of the not-gays.

Batwoman and Batgirl exist for exactly that reason.

Also girls might watch/read it and you need to give them something. Women don't care about action and adventure, they want to see if they get together!
I am pretty sure I saw a documentary about old hollywood and some old producer would tell the writers that, and they'd also go "where's the kiss? everyones here for the kiss!"

OnimaruXLR
Sep 15, 2007
Lurklurklurklurklurk
Action movies in general are not particularly textually horny apart from a big triumphant kiss at the very end anyway (even the Matrix, which went on to have four more-romantic-than-average sequels, was pretty dry except for at the very end) so I'm not sure where the disdain with superhero movies in particular comes from

Maybe these are all people who get very horny when in life/death situations complaining. But if Keanu and Sandra Bullock could keep it in their pants until after they got off the bus, I'm not sure what you expect from the brightly colored characters who are trying to sell toys to children.

and even then, you still have something like Deadpool 1

Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Say Watt?

I missed the mid- or end-credits scene from the first ep of Ms. Marvel so I was kinda confused when the DODC people showed up. And are they the main villains? We're a third of the way through the series so it seems like it.

Madkal
Feb 11, 2008

Fallen Rib
When I hear the thing about Marvel movies being sexless I take it to mean that there just isn't a huge amount of chemistry between the romantic leads, which I kind of agree with for the most part. Not that the actors are badly miscast or anything but just for the most part there doesn't seem to be much of a feel like the two leads just want to get it on. It's not vital for movies about superheroes fighting big bads or anything but if, let's in the case of Dr Strange for instance, we are told Strange really misses his gal it would be nice to actually have a connection between Strange and his gal that makes us understand why he misses her.

Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Say Watt?

Madkal posted:

When I hear the thing about Marvel movies being sexless I take it to mean that there just isn't a huge amount of chemistry between the romantic leads, which I kind of agree with for the most part. Not that the actors are badly miscast or anything but just for the most part there doesn't seem to be much of a feel like the two leads just want to get it on. It's not vital for movies about superheroes fighting big bads or anything but if, let's in the case of Dr Strange for instance, we are told Strange really misses his gal it would be nice to actually have a connection between Strange and his gal that makes us understand why he misses her.

Sexless does not just mean a lack of actual sex, yeah. But as much as it relies on actors to be sexy and and have chemistry with one another it also comes down to writing. There needs to be a reason why the characters can't have sex in the moment even though they want to, or a reason for the audience to be worried/excited about how sex will resolve or complicate things.

The most sexual tension I can remember from the MCU movies is Natasha and Steve in Winter Soldier. Their relationship in that movie is written like it would in some other thriller or adventure movie or rom-com, except that nothing actually happens and it stays platonic. For the first two acts they are headed towards getting together, then Mackie shows up again and goes It's Falc-in' Time and it's totally shut down.

Lobok fucked around with this message at 16:44 on Jun 17, 2022

site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch
well despite there being a lot of sexual tension between Nat and Steve we know they couldn't get together because Steve's boyfriend showed up

Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Say Watt?

site posted:

well despite there being a lot of sexual tension between Nat and Steve we know they couldn't get together because Steve's boyfriend showed up

There's a potential third act where Natasha and Steve and Bucky share scenes together where the tensions and subtexts would be a lot more interesting!

With Falcon and his cockblock energy showing up in the final helicarrier like

notthegoatseguy
Sep 6, 2005

Lobok posted:

I missed the mid- or end-credits scene from the first ep of Ms. Marvel so I was kinda confused when the DODC people showed up. And are they the main villains? We're a third of the way through the series so it seems like it.

If you've read the comics, the trailer showcases one of her early villains and shows a scene with her dealing with the aftermath of another villain.

I don't think Damage Control are the Big Bad Guys, but are the We-Can't-Use-Shield stand-in for a government agency. Antagonists sure, but I don't think they're the Big Bads.

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site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch

Lobok posted:

There's a potential third act where Natasha and Steve and Bucky share scenes together where the tensions and subtexts would be a lot more interesting!

With Falcon and his cockblock energy showing up in the final helicarrier like



the porn parody giving the people what they want

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