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Ackles never had to do hardcore pornographic gay sex on Supernatural, though (at least not dutring the first 8 seasons, when I watched it a decade ago)
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Jun 16, 2022 14:06
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I wouldn't take that stuff at face value, it's just marketing to generate clickbait titles. "Boys actor refused to do this one scene that was TOO EXTREME"
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Jun 16, 2022 14:20
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Hmm a double post. Jeffrey 
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Jun 16, 2022 14:20
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No Dignity posted:Just a hunch but I think the old strongest hero who also now has the power to negate supe abilities might be a factor in the attack on Homelander Apart from the anti super beam, soldier boy didn't seem very powerful by the standards of modern supers. I guess if he actually knows how to fight and has real army training that would go a long way though
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Jun 16, 2022 14:34
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Paul Reiser will be The Legend  I know it's a marketing thing so they can rollout these stunt casts as news items, but it's weird how they word it like he just joined the cast like they're shooting the episode today
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Jun 16, 2022 14:40
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Crespolini posted:Apart from the anti super beam, soldier boy didn't seem very powerful by the standards of modern supers. I guess if he actually knows how to fight and has real army training that would go a long way though He doesn't. That's the point.
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Jun 16, 2022 14:53
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That fits, this season has been all about Homelander loving with people over a percentage.
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Jun 16, 2022 15:00
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Crespolini posted:Apart from the anti super beam, soldier boy didn't seem very powerful by the standards of modern supers. I guess if he actually knows how to fight and has real army training that would go a long way though In the trailers, there's a scene that gives us an idea: Soldier Boy standing on a sidewalk looking stunned and kinda angry, then another scene with Butcher and Hughie on a very similar(same?) sidewalk looking shocked and horrified, and then a cut to a giant hole burned through a building. As for how that translates to Homelander-blasting powers, I guess we'll see.
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Jun 16, 2022 15:06
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The characters in the show certainly think he is. When Maeve is telling Butcher about the supe-killing gun that killed Soldier Boy, he says something like "must be a hell of a gun, Soldier Boy is almost as tough as homel-" and then it dawns on him
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Jun 16, 2022 15:08
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Chamale posted:I wonder if she would win if they fought inside an electrical substation, amplifying her powers greatly. Homelander might be wondering the same thing, and won't take the risk if he can avoid it. I mean, end of the day there's always just Homelander lasering the substation from a distance or at super speed. It's comic book powers, so I'm treating it like that. The needs of the story determine if a power works to hurt him or not.
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Jun 16, 2022 16:13
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zoux posted:Paul Reiser will be The Legend For a hot second i saw Hans Reiser in the headline and went WTF
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Jun 16, 2022 16:14
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Jedit posted:He doesn't. That's the point. Is it? Then I don't get why people who know all about vougt propaganda still seem to think he was such a big deal
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Jun 16, 2022 16:33
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As Nero Danced posted:In the trailers, there's a scene that gives us an idea: Soldier Boy standing on a sidewalk looking stunned and kinda angry, then another scene with Butcher and Hughie on a very similar(same?) sidewalk looking shocked and horrified, and then a cut to a giant hole burned through a building. I believe in that first scene you see Soldier Boy clearly doing the "charging up glow."
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Jun 16, 2022 16:52
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Crespolini posted:Is it? Then I don't get why people who know all about vougt propaganda still seem to think he was such a big deal The point of of Grace's flashback seemed to be that superpowers don't make arrogant, untrained morons good soldiers.
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Jun 16, 2022 16:59
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Avasculous posted:The point of of Grace's flashback seemed to be that superpowers don't make arrogant, untrained morons good soldiers. right...but then we're kinda back to the beginning here
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Jun 16, 2022 17:04
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Soldier Boy seemed to actually be fighting pretty competently and not doing friendly fire so at the very least he was miles above the others
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Jun 16, 2022 17:06
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Crespolini posted:right...but then we're kinda back to the beginning here What I mean is that him having strength and durability comparable to Homelander is probably true, since Butcher and Maeve seemed to buy it. The propaganda part is that he was a trained or competent soldier. christmas boots posted:Soldier Boy seemed to actually be fighting pretty competently and not doing friendly fire so at the very least he was miles above the others He did seem like the only halfway effective one in the fight, but he also almost blew up half the base in a prank.
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Jun 16, 2022 17:12
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yeah iirc he literally was a soldier boy but also let the fame get to his head
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Jun 16, 2022 17:13
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Butcher's genius plan of opening the mystery tube and letting Soldier Boy wander off. The only thing stopping this guy being the worst is Homelander being the worst
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Jun 16, 2022 17:14
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Avasculous posted:What I mean is that him having strength and durability comparable to Homelander is probably true, since Butcher and Maeve seemed to buy it. It may well turn out like that. I guess it's a just me thing where I didn't get that impression of him from the flashback
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Jun 16, 2022 17:15
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Crespolini posted:It may well turn out like that. I guess it's a just me thing where I didn't get that impression of him from the flashback Yeah, I guess we just saw him punching soldiers into the air, which it seems like most Supes can do. It might have sold it more if we saw him take a rocket to the face or kick a tank to death or something. Trying posted:The only thing stopping this guy being the worst is Homelander being the worst He was an arrogant douche before he could deactivate other Supes so this might be a contest.
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Jun 16, 2022 17:18
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Avasculous posted:He did seem like the only halfway effective one in the fight, but he also almost blew up half the base in a prank. Yeah, he's a soldier.
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Jun 16, 2022 17:20
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Avasculous posted:He was an arrogant douche before he could deactivate other Supes so this might be a contest. Why wouldn't it be the case that he could *always* deactivate Supes with that energy discharge and that that wasn't some side effect of Russian or Vought experimentation?
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Jun 16, 2022 17:24
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christmas boots posted:Soldier Boy seemed to actually be fighting pretty competently and not doing friendly fire so at the very least he was miles above the others He'd also be miles above the rest of the US Army. The issue is that he's not a good taker of orders and he's apparently not capable of planning beyond the moment. He's the reverse of Steve Rogers in The First Avenger - instead of being a soldier sent out to do PR stunts, he's a PR symbol sent out to fight.
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Jun 16, 2022 17:27
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Habibi posted:Why wouldn't it be the case that he could *always* deactivate Supes with that energy discharge and that that wasn't some side effect of Russian or Vought experimentation? I've been asking myself this every time someone suggests he wasn't always able to.
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Jun 16, 2022 17:33
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Habibi posted:Why wouldn't it be the case that he could *always* deactivate Supes with that energy discharge and that that wasn't some side effect of Russian or Vought experimentation? Doesn’t MM mention that being new in the episode itself?
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Jun 16, 2022 17:34
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Serge would not be panic-yelling, "why is she not healing" if it was a known thing he could do.
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Jun 16, 2022 17:36
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What about instead of a natural consequence of the things we have seen previously they did some insane bullshit that follows the logic of a schizophrenic? p. likely IMO
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Jun 16, 2022 17:41
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How do we know Soldier Boy didn’t kill Supersonic, anyway?
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Jun 16, 2022 17:42
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Why would he have opened up on a supe before? Maybe it was an unknown side effect if his hyper beam was only ever used against people who die instantly
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Jun 16, 2022 17:44
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oh jay posted:Serge would not be panic-yelling, "why is she not healing" if it was a known thing he could do. I still can't help but wonder if it's related to the brain hit. I'd imagine regenerating that would tax her system more than anything else, and maybe she just didn't wait long enough for her healing factor to kick back in. At least they didn't give her amnesia afterwards.
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Jun 16, 2022 17:46
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If he could always do it then instead of a rocket launcher it would have been Soldier Boy showing off his sweet firepecs way too close to the ammo dump in the flashback instead.
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Jun 16, 2022 17:46
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oh jay posted:Serge would not be panic-yelling, "why is she not healing" if it was a known thing he could do. It not being a generally known thing he could do and him actually being able to do it this whole time are not mutually exclusive propositions. There are countless reasons why Serge may not have known about that effect or even that energy discharge itself, but even simply Vought being coy and secretive about having an anti-Supe capability (and Soldier Boy being all too happy to retain an ace in the hole) makes fewer assumptions than "secret experiments did this," IMO.
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Jun 16, 2022 17:48
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Habibi posted:It not being a generally known thing he could do and him actually being able to do it this whole time are not mutually exclusive propositions. There are countless reasons why Serge may not have known about that effect or even that energy discharge itself, but even simply Vought being coy and secretive about having an anti-Supe capability (and Soldier Boy being all too happy to retain an ace in the hole) makes fewer assumptions than "secret experiments did this," IMO. From what they’ve shown of Soldier Boy there’s no way he’s be reserved enough to not be firing that thing off left right and center. He was an arrogant piece of poo poo. Plus Cold War era Russian government abducting and tinkering with a supe, a potential weapon that was predominantly an American asset, is 100% plausible and doesn’t really require any assumptions that are super far-fetched.
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Jun 16, 2022 17:57
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did his costume have a chest flap? I think that would settle this imo
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Jun 16, 2022 17:59
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Goast posted:yeah iirc he literally was a soldier boy But Vought said cya later boy.
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Jun 16, 2022 18:01
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He's fairly strong. We see him lobbing people in the air during a fight. Last time we saw something comparable was Homelander lobbing that dude down the street in the first episode when Maeve tanked the armored car. There's been moments of "oh ew" where someone gets their head ripped in half or whatever but not that many where they go full tilt crazy on aeronautics. I guess we just don't know, since they've changed the character so much from the comics. He seems to be an arrogant douche from the flashbacks but we only have Mallory's pov on that. Kinda wondering what will happen when Black Noir meets him again. He wasn't mute or scarred last time. I can easily imagine Jensen going "Holy gently caress man what in the poo poo happened to you? C'mon, spit it out Tommy boy!" Personally I'm wondering if they are going to go the culture shock "I understood that reference" route. Jensen has great comedic timing, I can see that working well if it's written well. drat it's not Friday yet.
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Jun 16, 2022 18:19
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Open Source Idiom posted:I can see some people signing up to be killed by Homelander, but not a lot. George W Bush breakfast cereal Dick Cheney breakfast cereal Ronald Reagan breakfast cereal Stalin breakfast cereal etc. yeah they'd sell
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Jun 16, 2022 18:24
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Habibi posted:It not being a generally known thing he could do and him actually being able to do it this whole time are not mutually exclusive propositions. There are countless reasons why Serge may not have known about that effect or even that energy discharge itself, but even simply Vought being coy and secretive about having an anti-Supe capability (and Soldier Boy being all too happy to retain an ace in the hole) makes fewer assumptions than "secret experiments did this," IMO. They say it explicitly: “Soldier boy was always an hard bastard but not like that. They just have done something to him.” -Butcher
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Jun 16, 2022 18:30
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Soldier Boy was found in a top secret lab that was doing experiments with powers and immediately used something no one recognized or knew he could do -- lab experiment does not seem like a stretch in the slightest.
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