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clean ayers act posted:Torts hated being on espn so much he voluntarily agreed to go to philly lol This is a actually amazing to me
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Jack Johnson has played over 1000 NHL games He was pretty highly touted as a prospect and halfway decent at first I think.
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I hope he punches Carchidi
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https://www.capfriendly.com/ltir-faq#offseason
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I have nothing to base this off, but I feel like Torts is going to loving hate Travis Konecny
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Am I missing something here. Why did Vegas trade Dadonov for an essentially dead player while I was at work today?
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Welcome back, Torts. I hope you do good things when you're not coaching against my team. Rangers do thing: https://twitter.com/CapFriendly/status/1537555616180363264
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Kale posted:Am I missing something here. Why did Vegas trade Dadonov for an essentially dead player while I was at work today? because they can bury him on LTIR, and Vegas is ~$3m over the cap for this coming season with only 16 players under contract
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Aye Doc posted:because they can bury him on LTIR, and Vegas is ~$3m over the cap for this coming season with only 16 players under contract Oh one of those situations. A books trade rather than player trade.
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Praying for Weber to receive a couple magical cadaver ankles and heal enough to suit up for the Golden Knights and absolutely gently caress the team up cap-wise
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https://twitter.com/BDubi17/status/1537591435469459463 lol
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As a fan of a team that went from Alain Vigneault to John Tortorella... Good loving luck. Hopefully Torts will at least try and fight an opposing coach so you can at least be entertained a bit.
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Worst that happens is the Flyers tank for Bedard, who they pass on for a someone who looks like a thumb
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Isnt this the third team to bring in Torts after firing AV? Do people really think the third time will be different?
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Jordan7hm posted:Man I dunno, I don't think getting bottom of the lineup guys or AHLers through the draft is particularly valuable. You can sign those guys for basically nothing every single year. I think it's an argument for pro scouting more than amateur scouting. You don't just draft grinders though. The forecasting models don't just identify borderline scrubs that would be useless. They just increase the frequency at which a draft pick hits across the board. Some will be scrubs. Some will be consistent roster plates. A few will be superstars. The more you hit the higher your chances of that all important final category. Assume you draft quality players at the same rate between traditional scouting and models. Say for every five guys you draft that play 100 games one is what you would consider a top six/top two pairing type. If a statistical approach can give you a success rate of just one more NHLer per draft, you add an extra quality player for free every few drafts. That's if your model is just marginally better than traditional scouting. Oftentimes they've been shown to be much, much better and teams basically talk themselves out of drafting good players because they skate funny or quit on combine drills. Over time that adds up significantly. Get a bit of luck and you run three or four drafts like that consecutively and you have a powerhouse on your team with zero additional roster construction. If nothing else you've stockpiled a significant amount of cost controlled trade capital.
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Eric the Mauve posted:Weber is retired AFAIK and won't count against the cap, but does Vegas still have to pay him his salary? If so, then they've essentially paid Montreal a lot of money to take Dadanov's contract and free up desperately needed cap space. Vegas actually save 500k overall.
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T-Bone posted:Yeah of course, but also just using offensive production is pretty rudimentary as well...what's really needed is better analytics in leagues under the NHL. If someone just tried to rank NHL players by production it would be a lovely pro model, there's a ton more that could be gleaned if a NHL team had the resources/drive to do advanced statistical analysis on the CHL/NCAA/USHL/Tier 1-2 Euro Leagues. ThinkTank posted:We definitely need better stats everywhere. I don't think anyone refutes that. The point is that just sorting by standardized point totals like NHLe is consistently significantly better than CSS lists. https://twitter.com/JFreshHockey/status/1537462316551348224?s=20&t=XoSNM4T-dUTM3Esi0Uy9kg Point 2 is what I was getting at. Obviously a prospect's ability to rack up points in the NHL is a great way to predict their ability to put up points in the NHL, and their ability to rack up points in the AHL is more predictive than their ability to rack up points in the OHL, etc. But what weight do you place on those points based on the league and the player's age? William Eklund looked like a sure thing, 70% chance of a star based on his 23p in 40gp as an 18 year old in the SHL. Almost unprecedented. Yet his points regressed and from the eye test he looked like the exact same player he was last year. Seider's and Raymond's NHLe looked like poo poo in their draft year but they appear to have hit. Determining the right weight is just harder in the SHL and DEL etc. where you have (alot) less data to work with. sedative posted:lol Keith Mars fucked around with this message at 03:21 on Jun 17, 2022 |
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Furnaceface posted:Isnt this the third team to bring in Torts after firing AV? Do people really think the third time will be different? Rangers brought in AV after firing torts So, second team (first being Vancouver)
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Torts needs 27 wins to get into the Top 10 in all-time wins assuming nobody hires Babcock.
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CBJSprague24 posted:Torts needs 27 wins to get into the Top 10 in all-time wins assuming nobody hires Babcock. Paul Maurice is 7th on this list. 10th is no great achievement
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reportedly the buyer is Bill Haslam. multi-billionaire who made his money from running Pilot truck stops, former TN governor, and a Tennessee Vols mega-booster who infamously tried to get Greg Schiano hired as head ball coach. this resulted in a fan revolt and massive protests in Knoxville. his brother Jimmy owns the Browns and reportedly decided to draft Johnny Manziel because a homeless man told him to do so. he's now signed DeShaun "Accused Of Sexual Assault By 27 Women" Watson as QB.
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Troy Queef posted:his brother Jimmy owns the Browns and reportedly decided to draft Johnny Manziel because a homeless man told him to do so. he's now signed DeShaun "Accused Of Sexual Assault By 27 Women" Watson as QB. He didn't just trade a bunch of picks for a serial rapist, he also gave him a $230 million contract that is the first ever fully guaranteed contract in NFL history, royally pissing off the other 31 owners. The Haslam brothers basically dream of growing up to be Donald Trump.
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Troy Queef posted:reportedly the buyer is Bill Haslam. multi-billionaire who made his money from running Pilot truck stops, former TN governor, and a Tennessee Vols mega-booster who infamously tried to get Greg Schiano hired as head ball coach. this resulted in a fan revolt and massive protests in Knoxville. A friend of my dad's goes to the same church as Bill Haslam! The pastor got fired for being at the capitol on January 6th. edit: different governor of Tennessee named Bill, they are indistinguishable, sadly. AsInHowe fucked around with this message at 04:16 on Jun 17, 2022 |
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So does this we get the Cleveland Barons back finally
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Kale posted:Am I missing something here. Why did Vegas trade Dadonov for an essentially dead player while I was at work today? Vegas gets $5m in usable cap space, Montreal gets an additional $4m in accruable space which can be sold at the deadline. Well, I'm assuming Montreal intends to stay under the cap. For teams under the cap, LTIR and active players are functionally equivalent -- either one reduces the amount of daily space they can accrue. For teams over the cap, there's no cost to taking on more LTIR.
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CBJSprague24 posted:Welcome back, Torts. I hope you do good things when you're not coaching against my team. Does his sister come with the contract
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It's official https://twitter.com/NHLFlyers/status/1537787171821731842?t=hiQz0vX790i44nwxPWuWOg&s=19
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triple sulk posted:i hate it so loving much https://twitter.com/CamAtkinson89/status/1537788998218928128?t=sojYyjJ4I6LcihkMkq9DCg&s=19
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I think he means "LFG to anywhere other than Philadelphia"
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https://twitter.com/KevinWeekes/status/1537545646860709889 I love the guy, but four years, huh?
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shyduck posted:Next team captain seems to like it laughton is going to be the next captain
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shyduck posted:Next team captain seems to like it Looking For Goalie
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So the external group they hired to find a coach shortlisted two of the most experienced coaches in history who have a reputation for alienating their players? Really thinking outside the box
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I don't really get the Torts hire. I like Torts, but what is the Flyers goal here? They're in rebuild mode, and Torts doesn't strike me as a rebuild coach. Then again being it's the Flyers and they *hate* rebuilding with a fiery passion I'm guessing they think they can somehow make a contender out of that roster. I think they'll be sorely disappointed if that's what they're thinking.
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mentholmoose posted:https://twitter.com/stapeathletic/status/1537788600993079297?s=21&t=bPPAD5f1DhZ35YMk7Tp2rQ JackCap??? Jesus christ
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