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Khanstant posted:Big BetterBorg fan and nobody can claim ownership of the idea since it's the first idea anyone has when learning about the borg way of life. "oh this would all work infinitely better for literally everyone including the borg with one simple tweak of 'don't be assholes for counter productive reasons'" I'm not saying its original, what I am saying that it's pretty appalling that the official MMO of the Star Trek did this thing in 2014. And the showrunners could not make anything more interesting out of it, but decided to make an action movie-esque recall of movie released in 1989 based on that idea. And then we got what Picard S2 was. I mean, it was entertaining while binging it, but its "TNG but action dramedy", while not presenting any new ideas, or if you think about it. riddled with plot holes, with no reason to rewatch it ever again. While the IMDB rate of 5/10 isn't fair IMHO, its maybe 7/10.
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So is Chapel a civilian? Did I hear that right, she's on rotation from a civilian institute?
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nine-gear crow posted:Also Prodigy's a better place to take a swing at that bat too. That said I don't think many people in this thread seem to be sleeping on it, at least back when it was putting out new episodes every week. I think like only one or two dudes ITT seemed to vocally dislike it out of everyone posting about it. as hard to watch at first mostly because the 'main character' was a piece of poo poo but as it went along he realized that he was a piece of poo poo and did some growing. By the last episode they were a crew instead of a group of lovely teenagers and realized that they could be stronger together. So the first episodes were pretty much the opening for the entire show and I look forward to watching it when it returns because it is really good Trek.
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Der Kyhe posted:I'm not saying its original, what I am saying that it's pretty appalling that the official MMO of the Star Trek did this thing in 2014. And the showrunners could not make anything more interesting out of it, but decided to make an action movie-esque recall of movie released in 1989 based on that idea. And then we got what Picard S2 was. No resistance from me that Picard Season 2 executed the idea in the worst way
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Yeah the worst fault of NuTrek is Picard and Disco past s2 are not anything I think I'd ever rewatch
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Jun 16, 2022 22:20
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I definitely wanna know how Pike and Co managed to take over the bridge like that "prematurely," lmao. I really liked this episode a lot.
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I kinda guffawed at Angel saying that Spock growing up on Vulcan and learning Vulcan culture is "just geography" and the moral is "who you are matters more than what you are." It's a bit oversimplifying of his situation but, at the same time, isn't necessarily wrong. Whoever the writers are for this show, they deserve a solid pat on the back for bringing Star Trek back. If there were awards for the space genre specifically, I'd give it to these guys before anyone else right now. I say "space" because Severance might be in the sci-fi category. DaveKap fucked around with this message at 22:47 on Jun 16, 2022 |
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Jun 16, 2022 22:45
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The preview for the next episode is the most TOS-rear end poo poo I've ever seen in my life. drat do I wish I had the money for Paramount+ right now.
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Arglebargle III posted:So is Chapel a civilian? Did I hear that right, she's on rotation from a civilian institute? yup; i think she actually joins starfleet later once she's engaged to Korby and he disappears
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DaveKap posted:I kinda guffawed at Angel saying that Spock growing up on Vulcan and learning Vulcan culture is "just geography" and the moral is "who you are matters more than what you are." It's a bit oversimplifying of his situation but, at the same time, isn't necessarily wrong. I'd say Severance is definitely sci-fi
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I'm sure it's probs been said in this thread already but just realized how Angel contacted Vulcan like, instantly, despite them making a point of saying they were so far out their comms bouy was days from getting to the federation I honestly don't mind that much--whatever, gun episode-- but it's definitely something of a plothole. But I've gotten pretty accustomed to em, I don't mind so much
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Terra-da-loo! posted:I'm sure it's probs been said in this thread already but just realized how Angel contacted Vulcan like, instantly, despite them making a point of saying they were so far out their comms bouy was days from getting to the federation The local pirates obviously have a better subspace relay network than a Federation ship dropping buoys because they're way out of their usual space.
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DaveKap posted:I kinda guffawed at Angel saying that Spock growing up on Vulcan and learning Vulcan culture is "just geography" and the moral is "who you are matters more than what you are." It's a bit oversimplifying of his situation but, at the same time, isn't necessarily wrong. If you don’t watch, I’d also suggest For All Mankind.
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Probably Magic posted:The preview for the next episode is the most TOS-rear end poo poo I've ever seen in my life. drat do I wish I had the money for Paramount+ right now. It's a $2.99 teaser rate right now. I did the thing 
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Arglebargle III posted:So is Chapel a civilian? Did I hear that right, she's on rotation from a civilian institute? That lets her wear the white jumpsuit instead of a uniform. It is tradition now to make one of the female crew wear something besides a standard uniform.
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Facebook Aunt posted:That lets her wear the white jumpsuit instead of a uniform. It is tradition now to make one of the female crew wear something besides a standard uniform. i think there’s been mention that the production crew lets the actors choose their costumes, even episode to episode, but Jess Bush elaborates a bit on hers here: https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2022/06/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-jess-bush-interview quote:Historically, Nurse Chapel has worn light blue, but you are in crisp white.
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Khanstant posted:can phasers not hit two targets simultaneously? I think the problem is if they shot too many of the targets the rest would explode anyway "Kaboom" -- Ortegas OR You'd have to hit both at the same time which means firing a few milliseconds apart and that might be to complex to set up in the controls in the time they had left
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i like how this alien shows up in one seen in casual workout clothes, next we see her shes friggin aeon flux
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Khanstant posted:i like how this alien shows up in one seen in casual workout clothes, next we see her shes friggin aeon flux I knew she was evil the second she was wearing something sexy. Also she had serious Belter vibes, if she had called Spock Welwalla I'd have not batted an eye. God this exchange "Yaar maties when we watch Captain Angel we'll make her walk the plank!" "please stop" so good. Why the gently caress is SNW so loving good? Holy poo poo its like they finally understood why Star Trek is so loved! Also people can finally shut up about Sybok
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twistedmentat posted:Why the gently caress is SNW so loving good? Holy poo poo its like they finally understood why Star Trek is so loved! The only real difference is Henry Alonso Meyers, co-showrunner with Akiva Goldsman. HAM (lol) seems to really get Trek, and honestly Goldsman is probably decent when he can bounce off someone sane.
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I have completely let my guard down and let SNW into my heart. It's the most Star Trek show that has ever been. Anything I could complain about would be nitpicking. Amazing!
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HD DAD posted:The only real difference is Henry Alonso Meyers, co-showrunner with Akiva Goldsman. HAM (lol) seems to really get Trek, and honestly Goldsman is probably decent when he can bounce off someone sane. Also writing a 45 minute contained story is a different thing than writing a ten hour story. Like I can do a readable novel but every short story I've ever tried sucked rear end. Different skills.
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Azhais posted:I forget, did voyager do a mirror story? I do recall an episode with the doctor being evil and forcing 7 of 9 to sing, but I can't remember the context I think there was an episode where the Doctor was writing a holonovel loosely based on the Voyager crew except the crew are all dicks to the Doctor who is overworked and underappreciated. Someone finds it and naturally the crew is annoyed at being portrayed as assholes but the Doctor refuses to acknowledge the obvious similarities and defends his creative freedom. Deciding turnabout is fair play someone (Paris?) writes a similar holonovel except this time the Doctor is the baddie.
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twistedmentat posted:I knew she was evil the second she was wearing something sexy. Also she had serious Belter vibes, if she had called Spock Welwalla I'd have not batted an eye. Especially since I missed why she was even present, once she was in baddie costume it was funny how long before her heel turn, having already been dressed the part all day. Will be fun to see her again, I was actually prepared at the end for her to zip away on the ship and reveal she was some other kind of alien all along. also that guy sounds like a mortal kombat character. i'm guessing he's spock's like crazy illogical evil brother? does spock also have a goofus half-brother Sponk who works on a farm trying to grow money trees? Why didn't Michael ever bring up Sybok?
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chglcu posted:I really hope they never do one, though I know they will. Those episodes are always the dumbest rear end poo poo in every series. The Enterprise mirror episodes were hilariously over the top and my favorites of that whole series
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Infyrion posted:I think there was an episode where the Doctor was writing a holonovel loosely based on the Voyager crew except the crew are all dicks to the Doctor who is overworked and underappreciated. Someone finds it and naturally the crew is annoyed at being portrayed as assholes but the Doctor refuses to acknowledge the obvious similarities and defends his creative freedom. Deciding turnabout is fair play someone (Paris?) writes a similar holonovel except this time the Doctor is the baddie. No, its from the Equinox episode where Voyager's EMH is stolen by Ransom and they remove the ethical subroutines so he will do evil experiments. He's fiddling with 7s implants and continues their previous, pre evil EMH, interactions where they'd sing public domain songs together. I have seen so much Star Trek, its not funny. HD DAD posted:The only real difference is Henry Alonso Meyers, co-showrunner with Akiva Goldsman. HAM (lol) seems to really get Trek, and honestly Goldsman is probably decent when he can bounce off someone sane. Thats cool. Yea it always seems like in these kinds of shows you need to have your wacky creative lead but someone more steady to reign them in and focus the show. This is also the best first season of any Trek show.
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Infyrion posted:I think there was an episode where the Doctor was writing a holonovel loosely based on the Voyager crew except the crew are all dicks to the Doctor who is overworked and underappreciated. Someone finds it and naturally the crew is annoyed at being portrayed as assholes but the Doctor refuses to acknowledge the obvious similarities and defends his creative freedom. Deciding turnabout is fair play someone (Paris?) writes a similar holonovel except this time the Doctor is the baddie. There's also an episode where the Doctor's program is found in the Delta Quadrant and reactivated after 700 years. The future aliens show him holograms and "historical" recreations of the Voyager crew as bloodthirsty murderous fascists cruising the quadrant and leaving hell in their wake.
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MillennialVulcan posted:There's also an episode where the Doctor's program is found in the Delta Quadrant and reactivated after 700 years. The future aliens show him holograms and "historical" recreations of the Voyager crew as bloodthirsty murderous fascists cruising the quadrant and leaving hell in their wake. And that was because a different faction of the planets government ran it at the time, and they were eventually overthrown, as Voyager helped that regime maintain its power at the time, because it was actually the less horrible and fascist version of the planets government at the time, when they fell and the other faction took over the rewrote history. The whole point was "history was written by the victors". I thought the episode was going to be about a mirror universe Voyager having to fight it out with regular voyager.
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decent episode. i am not that into this chapel/t'pring/spock triangle though, so it wasn't my favourite. spock amok was probably my least favourite of the 7 so far, tied with that illyrian/virus episode. but the other 5 i have liked. dr aspen's evil intentions were obvious because she was in pretty much every scene until the reveal, way more than random support personnel would be, but it was actually enjoyable because it felt like they were playing with how obvious it was putting her in the black catsuit of betrayal. it was just waiting for when the camera would pan and the phasers would be out. glad she got out, a recurring villain who likes to mess with the cast will be a good addition to the show. i like the irish pirate. he was an orion right? was he irish because orion sounds like o'brien? you could bring him back, too. also want an ortegas episode before the season ends.
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The Lord Bude posted:As soon as Captain Angel showed up to give Spock a counselling session in a black catsuit, My first thought was ‘oooh ok they’re going to turn out to be the secret mastermind villain of the episode’. Wait, she's non-binary? I didn't read that at all, what were the signs?
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I think its cool that Ortegas is a reference to a crew member from the original pitch for Star Trek. I learned about that in this great video from Steve Shives. https://youtu.be/fVchEb7sywM Not sure if it was posted earlier but i'm not scrolling back 20 pages to check. I think the Virus one was my least favorite episode, but the child murder planet one was just sad. It kinda reminded me of the Orville episode where they try to prevent Bortus's child from being forcibly regendered. They lost, and there is nothing they can do about it. roomtone posted:putting her in the black catsuit of betrayal. I liked that it had see through panels.
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pik_d posted:Wait, she's non-binary? I didn't read that at all, what were the signs? From the opening: CHAPEL: Have you met Dr. Aspen yet? They seem very sharp. Pretty sure there are a few more instances of the 'they' pronoun but not sure of the exact lines. E: Ah found one: CHAPEL: Where's the real Dr. Aspen now? ANGEL: Probably still wandering around the uninhabited planet I dumped them on. Infyrion fucked around with this message at 02:01 on Jun 17, 2022 |
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The actress identifies as non-binary (and uses she/her pronouns irl for what it's worth), so it's more an extension of that than any particular thing in the script. "They/them" doesn't automatically mean non-binary. It gets used in casual conversation quite a bit as a singular pronoun without any connotation, so I don't necessarily read that much into (though multiple instances of it is pretty convincing). It certainly could have been intentional, but for me it's more who was portraying Angel than any specific coding.
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Another good episode, I hope they're not lulling me into a false sense of security, Cant wait for the Captain Pike's kitchen spin off. I also liked that there was no mention of her being NB, because guess what? No one gives a poo poo in the future! So much less ham-fisted than disco.
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Butternubs posted:Another good episode, I hope they're not lulling me into a false sense of security, Cant wait for the Captain Pike's kitchen spin off. This was my read on it. It matters to the audience because of representation and it's something you can learn if you choose to look into it, but in the realm of Star Trek it doesn't loving mean anything.
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