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Schmeichy posted:Get a minivan and trick it out, rvs are for suckers they're also expensive, even if you get a used one, the maintenance alone long term would cost more than a new one believe me i've looked the capitalists knew to rig every single thing in this demon cracker nation so nobody can find refuge without paying up
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We got a van with the idea of camping in it instead of living in it full-time, but before the pandemic we got a used dodge caravan that we outfitted with a camping storage station and bed. I think it was around 10k (we did a trade in). Hasn't needed much maintenance so far. It's also our daily driver.
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Schmeichy posted:Cross posting from the economic thread It’s always amazing the lengths landlords will go to ignore taking care of something they own. when I told our last landlord that a storm had dropped several large tree branches on the roof she didn’t want to send someone out to remove them unless they were “poking through the ceiling.” So I took them down myself and cut and stacked them because I didn’t want to live with half a tree on our home and after we moved out she tried to get us to pay for removing the logs from the backyard because the next tenants complained. she didn’t even have anyone come look at the place before the next people moved in because she didn’t want to lose one days rent.
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the dodge caravan was a miracle car and I’m sad it’s dead and gone.
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BIG-DICK-BUTT-gently caress posted:That’s illegal, sadly. I’ve looked into it.
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Hambilderberglar posted:What law governs this because I would like to know more It’s kinda confusing but this makes me think you could get prosecuted: https://www.justice.gov/criminal-ceos/obscenity quote:Federal law prohibits the possession with intent to sell or distribute obscenity, to send, ship, or receive obscenity, to import obscenity, and to transport obscenity across state borders for purposes of distribution. Although the law does not criminalize the private possession of obscene matter, the act of receiving such matter could violate the statutes prohibiting the use of the U.S. Mails, common carriers, or interactive computer services for the purpose of transportation (See 18 U.S.C. § 1460; 18 U.S.C. § 1461; 18 U.S.C. § 1462; 18 U.S.C. § 1463). Convicted offenders face fines and imprisonment. It is also illegal to aid or abet in the commission of these crimes, and individuals who commit such acts are also punishable under federal obscenity laws. Maybe a lawyer goon can chime in, I’d love to hear that I’m wrong and that I can send Goatse to unsolicited texts
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BIG-DICK-BUTT-gently caress posted:It’s kinda confusing but this makes me think you could get prosecuted: Goatse is art, not obscenity.
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BIG-DICK-BUTT-gently caress posted:It’s kinda confusing but this makes me think you could get prosecuted: I cannot imagine some crank hasn’t tried to sue ogrish or another one of the shock jock websites if they could build a case on this, but I had not considered the obscenity angle until now.
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So ASCII goatse is okay, or maybe the time magazine cover
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Lastgirl posted:they're also expensive, even if you get a used one, the maintenance alone long term would cost more than a new one They are maintenance queens, yeah, but a lot of it can be done by yourself. Besides, maintenance is going to cost you regardless of the age of the RV, but buying a $80k Thor over a $25k 15 year old Winnie isn't going to magically put you on the hook for $55k in repairs, unless you use a bougie repair shop. I'm watching for early '00s class Cs with Ford v10s. A decent condition 27ish footer is $20-30k right now. I don't have that kind of savings right now, going to be a few years at best. But with a recession kicking off and RVs being a luxury to the overwhelming majority, prices should be about to take a hit. If the economy doesn't improve reasonably soon, it's possible I can pick up something for peanuts next summer. I don't want a van, a big border collie and a cat need more room than a van. And I'd never buy a chrysler product with the intent of living in it. I'd rather do brain surgery on myself with my .357mag.
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Schmeichy posted:We got a van with the idea of camping in it instead of living in it full-time, but before the pandemic we got a used dodge caravan that we outfitted with a camping storage station and bed. I think it was around 10k (we did a trade in). Hasn't needed much maintenance so far. It's also our daily driver. CRUSTY MINGE posted:They are maintenance queens, yeah, but a lot of it can be done by yourself. Besides, maintenance is going to cost you regardless of the age of the RV, but buying a $80k Thor over a $25k 15 year old Winnie isn't going to magically put you on the hook for $55k in repairs, unless you use a bougie repair shop. ty for these input, it sounds encouraging so I will have another look. I know a lot of people were looking at EV versions, given gas prices and emission but they're obscene too. It's not like you can't plan accordingly and just get a permit to park in RV areas or national parks with some caveats. Overall it does emphasize minimal living which is great because clutter and hypermaterialism drives me insane. It's also probably healthier living overall and you don't have to deal with people regularly as they try to breathe on you for their comfort.
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Check out Bob at cheapRVliving on YouTube. He's a guy who's whole deal is educating baby boomers who have nowhere else to go how to survive in a van.
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BIG-DICK-BUTT-gently caress posted:It’s kinda confusing but this makes me think you could get prosecuted: fortunately these poor suckers who spent way too much on a "how to make millions in real estate" class at the holiday inn are all sending texts from the same state   
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You can boondock on most BLM land for free for 2 weeks at a time. You need to move at least 25 miles every two weeks (BLM rule). And you can't circle back to a previous spot for 28 days. So if you find 3 places to bounce around relatively close to each other, you can get by on less than $100 in gas if you assume 8mpg (class Cs can get 10-14) at $10/gal of gas.
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Schmeichy posted:Check out Bob at cheapRVliving on YouTube. He's a guy who's whole deal is educating baby boomers who have nowhere else to go how to survive in a van. His day job is taking insurance claims, but his big sidehustle since COVID is a youtube channel about "boondocking" i.e. he tows a giant trailer behind his gas guzzling Tundra out to some BLM land so that he can watch Fox News via satellite and not have to see or hear any other people, and he makes youtube videos about it for not-much-money. He is absolutely steaming mad about gas prices these days and I hope it totally fucks his poo poo up.
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Schmeichy posted:Check out Bob at cheapRVliving on YouTube. He's a guy who's whole deal is educating baby boomers who have nowhere else to go how to survive in a van. Nomadland is a documentary
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Schmeichy posted:Check out Bob at cheapRVliving on YouTube. He's a guy who's whole deal is educating baby boomers who have nowhere else to go how to survive in a van. oh ya he's good, i think he was showing how he was outfitting a used ambulance last time i checked which is creative i'll give him that CRUSTY MINGE posted:You can boondock on most BLM land for free for 2 weeks at a time. You need to move at least 25 miles every two weeks (BLM rule). And you can't circle back to a previous spot for 28 days. So if you find 3 places to bounce around relatively close to each other, you can get by on less than $100 in gas if you assume 8mpg (class Cs can get 10-14) at $10/gal of gas. 
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err posted:Nomadland is a documentary It is, he has a cameo lol
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Lastgirl posted:oh ya he's good, i think he was showing how he was outfitting a used ambulance last time i checked which is creative i'll give him that drat that's a way better idea than a minivan
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i say swears online posted:drat that's a way better idea than a minivan Depends on wear and tear and gas mileage
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i say swears online posted:drat that's a way better idea than a minivan They get worse fuel mileage and tend to be high mileage. Though if they were municipal owned, probably well maintained. There's also used shuttle buses.  E: 2 years ago shuttles were bottoming out around $6k for something decent. Last I checked they're about double that for something that might not need a boat load of maintenance. Once you get deep into renovating it to live in, you could be in small class C price ranges, so I just started looking at class Cs. There's a few class As on ebay under $20k, but they're all 20+ years old. Some are pretty clean though. E2: like this https://www.ebay.com/itm/2039830469...emis&media=COPY CRUSTY MINGE has issued a correction as of 00:16 on Jun 17, 2022 |
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err posted:Nomadland is a documentary having grown up in seasonal trailer park... it was like these are my people. it really loving nailed the whole thing.
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:There's a few class As on ebay under $20k, but they're all 20+ years old. Some are pretty clean though. my parents bought a 30 + year old class A for 2000 once. it was pretty good until somebody siphoned the gas out and they didn’t notice. the sludge at the bottom of the gas tank killed the engine the next time they started it and that was that. edit: if you are already living in one of these communities they’ll come up cheaper. people sell them off to friends when they are going to die.
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Bar Ran Dun posted:my parents bought a 30 + year old class A for 2000 once. it was pretty good until somebody siphoned the gas out and they didn’t notice. the sludge at the bottom of the gas tank killed the engine the next time they started it and that was that. Yeah, there are scattered forums on boondocking and RVing that you'll find private sales under, too. I'm not keen on class As, really. Maintenance is another layer of hell and they have to go to RV shops, not just whatever brand dealer is on the hood for drivetrain work, so you can expect higher shop rates. Class Cs have better ride height, the tires are a bit cheaper, stuff tends to be more accessible for maintenance, fuel mileage is probably 50% better. I haven't done any camper/rv stuff in a very long time, so the whole idea is really drawing me in, but odds are even that my mind hits the shuffle button and I buy 5 acres of sand and sagebrush between now and next summer anyhow. I just like the RV idea so I can perpetually gently caress off to somewhere else. But I'm also mulling over the idea of staking a mining claim somewhere here in CO so I have a place to park 3-5 months a year while I "work" the ground for a whole $250 in annual fees, then gently caress off south for winter.
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former 2 year fulltime RV dwelling veteran here - did '14-16ish in a 37 foot class A with a washer/dryer etc. dont do it theres no place to park them theres no place to dump the shitter just dont
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Jonny 290 posted:theres no place to dump the shitter anyways your mistake was a class a, gotta use a class c. this was our hauler for ghost town trips 
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Jonny 290 posted:former 2 year fulltime RV dwelling veteran here - did '14-16ish in a 37 foot class A with a washer/dryer etc. Just drive over bridges in Chicago when you want to dump the shitter, duh
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Jonny 290 posted:former 2 year fulltime RV dwelling veteran here - did '14-16ish in a 37 foot class A with a washer/dryer etc. from what i've read/heard, it's even worse now than it used to be too
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Cold on a Cob posted:from what i've read/heard, it's even worse now than it used to be too Tennessee just passed a law banning camping on public lands in an attempt to gently caress over the homeless it also hosed over people like me, who bikepack and won't be going to Tennessee now
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yeah they razed 3/4 of the rv parks in denver in the past 5 year to make room for hotels or LuXuRY cOnDoS and you cant do that walmart overnight poo poo any more. sams dead
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Jonny 290 posted:and you cant do that walmart overnight poo poo any more. sams dead wtf
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used to able to pull over overnight at like rest stops. it's actually kinda funny rest stops are even a thing in america, or were i guess.
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Xaris posted:used to able to pull over overnight at like rest stops. it's actually kinda funny rest stops are even a thing in america, or were i guess. I used to do a lot of driving for work 1997-2002, it's cool to know that poo poo I did on the regular (sleep at rest stops, pull over to piss) will get me arrested now.
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Jonny 290 posted:former 2 year fulltime RV dwelling veteran here - did '14-16ish in a 37 foot class A with a washer/dryer etc. 37 foot is more than I'd want. 31 foot class C is what I'd max out at. Ideally more like 28 foot, something long enough for a proper bed. It's just me and two pets. I have a local friend with a septic tank, I can dump there and throw him $20 or buy him a pizza in return. He's surrounded (not literally but practically) by BLM land. Beyond that, municipal wastewater treatment facilities sometimes will have an RV dumpsite. Jonny 290 posted:yeah they razed 3/4 of the rv parks in denver in the past 5 year to make room for hotels or LuXuRY cOnDoS The RV parks in Colorado Springs are like $1k a month. It's nuts.
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:Tennessee just passed a law banning camping on public lands in an attempt to gently caress over the homeless  I get they’re trying to own the homeless. but don’t they know how much camping tourism they had?
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Meanwhile in the land of home ownership: $16k to update the shitter line and water line from the finest decaying plastics the 90s could produce! 
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:The RV parks in Colorado Springs are like $1k a month. It's nuts. that’s pretty normal now. most of the independent parks have been bought up by big chains.
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Xaris posted:at least around 'ere that's what stormdrains are for hey that’s a nice truck
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Jonny 290 posted:and you cant do that walmart overnight poo poo any more. sams dead wait then where do you park oh god
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