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snorch posted:Seriously though what's this luttig guy's deal? The pauses when he speaks render him borderline incomprehensible. Some sort of medical condition maybe? I didn't want to complain too much because of that but it legit makes him very difficult to follow because my brain doesn't stitch the words together into coherent phrases.
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Riptor posted:sworn affidavit from a member of the proud boys who was an FBI confidential informant saying that their intent was to kill pence and pelosi Was there a member of the proud boys who wasnt an fbi asset?
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BiggerBoat posted:He's not going to be indicted. Unless they have him on video and in writing saying "I don't' care if it's illegal, I don't care that biden actually won I'm going to do everything to hold onto this presidency even if it's against the law!" then he's not going to be indicted because "don't' want to set precedent"
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mdemone posted:There is no way this ends without Tump indicted. Lol. The committee is actively refusing to help the DoJ.
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TulliusCicero posted:God what a finale it would be if Trump actually testifies and just goes completely insane on the stand It would be like Jack Nicholson's courtroom outburst from A Few Good Men, Martin Sheen grabbing the baby at the end of The Dead Zone, the mindblower sequence from Scanners, the monologue at the end of Network, and the laughing baby sun from the Teletubbies all rolled into one
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mobby_6kl posted:Some sort of medical condition maybe? I didn't want to complain too much because of that but it legit makes him very difficult to follow because my brain doesn't stitch the words together into coherent phrases. There's a recent frontline interview on a similar subject. He pauses but it's much more flowing and relaxed. I think he's just a guy who doesn't want to misstate what he's thinking and stops to reformulate things when he hasn't fully worked out the idea. The weight of the subject and context just must have taken it to a bit of an extreme. The way they came back to him makes it seem like they were expecting him to be the dramatic soundbite though, and I suspect they were disappointed.
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T.C. posted:There's a recent frontline interview on a similar subject. He pauses but it's much more flowing and relaxed. The guy is saying without hyperbole the former President of the United States is an active threat to democracy You don't utter those words wrecklessly in front of Congress
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TulliusCicero posted:The guy is saying without hyperbole the former President of the United States is an active threat to democracy For sure
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TulliusCicero posted:The guy is saying without hyperbole the former President of the United States is an active threat to democracy Unless your republican, then you bring up the heinous crimes of ex-president Hillary Clinton every other day. She what? She wasn’t?
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I know. This is SA. Any earnest suggestion of consequences will be rejected as hopelessly naive and the language used will comport with most discourse on this site: shitposting, sarcasm, and weak attempts to be edgy. Some posters are excellent at sick burns. I am not and never have been. But I get the cynicism, I really, really do! Thanks to the doctrine of willful blindness, it is irrelevant Trump says he believed the big lie. Merrick Garland's DOJ absolutely will charge Trump with seditious conspiracy because that is the groundwork they have laid with Trump's footsoldiers. Also, The GA GJ will be recommending charges as well. Not only that, but the GOP legislators who conspired and lied will be dealt with as well. For all of you who have no faith, I will have it for you. When I am wrong you won't need to worry about my feelings because I will probably check the gently caress out of participation in this doomed freakshow on Earth. In the meantime, pay very close attention and ask yourself if the evil powers that be are really willing to let this *ongoing* Coup go down without nuking the POTUS who prosecuted it. DJT started a war against the United States government. I expect him to get real traitor treatment. Danger posted:Lol. The committee is actively refusing to help the DoJ. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) Dr. Faustus fucked around with this message at 21:05 on Jun 16, 2022 |
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Jun 16, 2022 21:01
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Dr. Faustus posted:I know. This is SA. Any earnest suggestion of consequences will be rejected as hopelessly naive and the language used will comport with most discourse on this site: shitposting, sarcasm, and weak attempts to be edgy. Some posters are excellent at sick burns. I am and never have been. But I get the cynicism, I really, really do! I sure hope you are right. Many of us have been disappointed so many times we dare not get our hopes up too easily.
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God drat that judge who....talks....real...............slow.........is reminding me of a couple of movie scenes or SImpsons episodes I've seen but my brain can't seem to pull them up.
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TulliusCicero posted:The guy is saying without hyperbole the former President of the United States is an active threat to democracy Yes you do, haven't you seen the amount of reckless stuff happening around these dudes?
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BiggerBoat posted:God drat that judge who....talks....real...............slow.........is reminding me of a couple of movie scenes or SImpsons episodes I've seen but my brain can't seem to pull them up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mA35An0mMOY
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BiggerBoat posted:God drat that judge who....talks....real...............slow.........is reminding me of a couple of movie scenes or SImpsons episodes I've seen but my brain can't seem to pull them up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRIHLq7OrFg
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Keisari posted:I sure hope you are right. Many of us have been disappointed so many times we dare not get our hopes up too easily. I sincerely doubt it because it would mean that political appointees and politicians can be held legally responsible for their actions while in and using their office. Politicians do not want that to happen no matter what they espouse.
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TulliusCicero posted:The guy is saying without hyperbole the former President of the United States is an active threat to democracy Many politicians say it constantly about the active president if they're on the opposite team. Cranappleberry posted:I sincerely doubt it because it would mean that political appointees and politicians can be held legally responsible for their actions while in and using their office. Trump will likely get at most a slap on the wrist. Standard procedure in these cases is for the culprit to quietly vanish into some extremely cushy consulting job and live the rest of their life in utter luxury, but that would involve shutting up so it's not really possible for Trump. He'll probably just be let go with some minor embarrassment and maybe a fine and will whine about it forever but not actually face real consequences. I'd love to be wrong here though.
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Dude actually emailed the vice president and said "let me ask you for one more violation" mysedition.txt
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Yinlock posted:Many politicians say it constantly about the active president if they're on the opposite team. You are wrong but for entirely different reasons. Because it won’t be Trump and his co-conspirators that will end up in the jail. The Democrats on that committee will. Mid-terms are going to be a disaster for the Dems and once that happens, the Jan 6th committee will immediately turn into the Stolen Election of 2020 committee. Trump wants revenge badly and when 2024 rolls around and retakes the White House, the sights will be set on anyone that dared speak against him. America wants that kind of circus, as long as the gas prices go back down. They don’t want to see this Democratic congress do anything except try to control insane inflation and head off any recession. But they will tune in if Hillary and Obama get criminally charged and have to face fixed court.
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Dr. Faustus posted:
Then they're going to have to give the real traitor treatment to at least half the Republican party, as they are still aiding and abetting him. The Republican party is as much a threat to democracy as Donald Trump is, if not more, since they can do plenty of damage without him; all he can do is whine and send emails right now. I'm am not sure if the democrats are up to that. I fear they are not.
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Nah, those weren't the Simpsons ones and I think it was like a National Lampoon or a Mike Judge movie. If it gets a fresh birth in my stupid brain I'll post what I'm thinking about because it's driving me crazy. Also, I'm getting worked up listening to and reading Trump's stupid self serving bullshit all over again and dreading him being elected in two years, which I think right now is a lock. If there's any bright side at all to a Biden victory, and I have my doubts that there are any, it's not having to hear or read Donald's immature petulance 24/7 like some kid that always calls pass interference who claims he wasn't down or touched in a game of two hand touch football. The Angry Bum posted:You are wrong but for entirely different reasons. Because it won’t be Trump and his co-conspirators that will end up in the jail. The Democrats on that committee will. This is by far the most likely outcome here. Trump is never going to be indicted, let alone arrested, and anyone who thinks it's possible really doesn't understand politics, I'm sorry. BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 23:13 on Jun 16, 2022 |
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TulliusCicero posted:The Proud Boys should be declared a terrorist organization like, today On top of that, Gavin McInnes should be deported for founding and running the Proud Boys
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Meatball posted:Then they're going to have to give the real traitor treatment to at least half the Republican party, as they are still aiding and abetting him. BiggerBoat posted:Trump is never going to be indicted, let alone arrested, and anyone who thinks it's possible really doesn't understand politics, I'm sorry.
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BiggerBoat posted:God drat that judge who....talks....real...............slow.........is reminding me of a couple of movie scenes or SImpsons episodes I've seen but my brain can't seem to pull them up. Night Court? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2A78DhtH544
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:https://twitter.com/petestrzok/status/1536809998902251520 lol that was the dude who got caught with naughty texts
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I dont think he will be indicted but I dont think he will be reelected. If your going to bitch 24/7 about the election being rigged its not great for your voter enthuisiasm.
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Despera posted:I dont think he will be indicted but I dont think he will be reelected. If your going to bitch 24/7 about the election being rigged its not great for your voter enthuisiasm. Nah it's fine. When the other side wins it's rigged, when yours does it's legit. Bing bang boom.
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Also Hillary or Obama going to trial? Ask the "lock her up " crowd how that went
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Despera posted:I dont think he will be indicted but I dont think he will be reelected. If your going to bitch 24/7 about the election being rigged its not great for your voter enthuisiasm. i think he probably loses, he is too poisonous to moderates and fence party types and would light a fire and scare progressives and liberals. etc. i do think he might be indited but who knows. biden will probably be impeached like 30 loving times over made up poo poo and that might actually give him a shot in the arm like it did for trump and clinton.
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Despera posted:Also Hillary or Obama going to trial? Ask the "lock her up " crowd how that went Do not compare their crimes to Trump and his fuckstick enablers. Trump is going to end up paying, and all of those GOP people who are outed as having asked for pardons or gave tours or had any other involvement in attempting to overthrow the government will be purged. It will be long and ugly and profoundly stupid but this is the outcome Trump himself signed up for when they decided to violate the Electoral Count Act, conspire with Nazis to interrupt the count and give time and cover to Pence, and eventually turning that mob on Pence himself when he didn't play along. The point they are making on the news right now is an extension of what Mr. Jacob was saying. The END RESULT of this coup attempt was literally "Hope the SCOTUS refuses to take up the issue, and let the decision take place through public violence in the streets by denying the will of 78M voters. That was the BEST CASE scenario. Eastman is quoted saying, "Yes, that is going to happen, but we've shed blood before so we're doing it." Another point, Eastman agreed to drop the plan one night, then the next day recanted and said, "We're gonna do it." That is because Trump was his client and Trump said gently caress you we are doing this. That quotation: "So now that the precedent has been set that the Electoral Count Act is not quite so sacrosanct as was previously claimed, I implore you to consider one more relatively minor violation and adjourn for 10 days to allow the legislatures to finish their investigations, as well as to allow a full forensic audit of the massive amount of illegal activity that has occurred here." Trump is going down not because there is any loving integrity in the United States, guys, and that has never been my opinion. Trump is going to pay because he did and is still doing this poo poo right out in the open and as much as they hate it the powers that be have to handle it. poo poo, who killed JFK and why? Keep telling me what will absolutely not happen and see how this country looks In 14 days from today. Or hell, even 7. It's not that he couped. It's that he couped so goddamned Trumpily. He's stupid as gently caress. The first hearing was just one week ago today. We are only three hearings in. Trump Should Be Charged Over Jan. 6, Majority of Americans Think—Poll https://www.newsweek.com/donald-tru...jofU2KKcud12K5k Dr. Faustus fucked around with this message at 01:50 on Jun 17, 2022 |
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Dr. Faustus posted:The Clintons and Obama had the discretion to do their criming in hidden and esoteric ways Americans are too overwhelmed and beset to understand. The Benghazis, tan suits, Grey Poupon, Uranium One and But Her E-mails were nothingburgers. The Whitewater investigation ended up with an impeachment over blow-job related perjury. Benghazi is a wild example because the state department an CIA were literally running guns to isis there. Expert damage control.
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Watching it at the end of the day I was able to speed up some segments more than others.  I detected a speech impediment / old age coupled with the difficulties of precision that come with audible instead of written responses. That his first answer was a complete tautology that didn't answer the question makes me wonder about mental faculties (which could simply mean "out of his element" or "not yet warmed up"), but I was happy to see that everyone sat patiently. Those aren't the type of (legal) details that people get excited about though, well unless they're weirdos like me. At least they had someone very direct in contrast.But imagine trump watching live having three heart attacks per minute waiting for Luttig's next words. Thank you honor Luttig for helping us in our time of need.  Jaxyon posted:Nah it's fine. When the other side wins it's rigged, when yours does it's legit. Bing bang boom. One other thing I noticed. So there's one site I know with whackamole forums that I can read without registering. (Well I say "can" in the public sense, though usually one page of insanity is enough to send me screaming, anyway...). Today they had nothing. "So what did Eastman do that was illegal?" was all they had. They had no defense of trump words or in/actions, and not scapegoating, they just had nothing better than "well Eastman can say whatever he wants (because free speech maybe  ").
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BiggerBoat posted:God drat that judge who....talks....real...............slow.........is reminding me of a couple of movie scenes or SImpsons episodes I've seen but my brain can't seem to pull them up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_25Joznkh8
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Danger posted:Benghazi is a wild example because the state department an CIA were literally running guns to isis there. Expert damage control. You might want to provide a source for that. Also ISIS didn't even exist in Libya in 2012
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So use that stolen $250M on the trump news network to spout your nonsense. But I guess you'd need 80% of it to fight off section 230 violations (if you had gotten your way on that). At least all commenters would be trump approved.
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Charliegrs posted:You might want to provide a source for that. Also ISIS didn't even exist in Libya in 2012 I thought the US was helping redirect weapons to forces in Syria, including ISIS linked groups. This article discusses some of the issue. https://www.businessinsider.com/us-syria-heavy-weapons-jihadists-2012-10
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lol wtf is this isis bullshitBel Shazar posted:I thought the US was helping redirect weapons to forces in Syria, including ISIS linked groups. 1) did you even read this? it's an entirely speculative piece and not actually reporting. we also can answer this in hindsight because the presence of even a tiny fraction of those manpads would've shifted the course of that war... and they never showed up. 2) jihadist does not mean isis, wtf 3) us vetting of syrian groups ended up being overly strict if anything to the point that it hamstrung their efforts and us missile assistance was pretty much 100% in the form of TOWs, hence the million videos of TOWs being used in syria (and some number of milans) 4) this whole thing is doubly stupid because ISIS was not even meaningfully a thing in 2012 and they didn't become particularly relevant until 2014
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