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ThisIsJohnWayne
Feb 23, 2007
Ooo! Look at me! NO DON'T LOOK AT ME!



FrozenVent posted:

Those taxes already exist. When airships work out cheaper than planes, trust me, the switch will happen.

But not a second before.

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FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.
Lamentablemente algunos de nosotros vivimos en el mundo real.

Hermsgervørden
Apr 23, 2004
Møøse Trainer
NOAA is hiring Hurricane Hunters, which I feel is a suitably insane aeronautical job.

Was there a goon who used to do this?

https://twitter.com/theastronick/status/1537515726646530050?s=21&t=hfKv5vYEMq24rSfaSjYHSQ

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
What if I've forgotten all the math, can I still go?

Full Collapse
Dec 4, 2002

mobby_6kl posted:

What if I've forgotten all the math, can I still go?

That’s what Matlab is for.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

FrozenVent posted:

Lamentablemente algunos de nosotros vivimos en el mundo real.

Y además, socialísmo no significa "construimos todas las cosa interesantes, porque la moneda no importa."

I'm sure there's a bunch of Soviets who fetishized airships too, and yet instead we have the An-2 because people still wanted to actually get poo poo done.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"
So someone watched Top Gun Maverick and thought, "hmm, I'll bet I could scam some venture capitalists about hypersonic travel now."

https://gizmodo.com/venus-aerospace-hypersonic-plane-1849039397

:jerkbag:

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


FrozenVent posted:

Call me when they start putting actual money down.

Don't worry, Spain literally has no money.

Shifty Pony
Dec 28, 2004

Up ta somethin'


A Texas Parks and Wildlife Cessna 206 had to make an emergency landing in the lake that snakes through downtown Austin.. The game warden pilot was rescued by some folks who were paddle boarding on the lake.

According to the news the plane had just completed scheduled maintenance. Wonder what they hosed up.





Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
Bathtub curve puts pilot in the bath

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

BIG HEADLINE posted:

So someone watched Top Gun Maverick and thought, "hmm, I'll bet I could scam some venture capitalists about hypersonic travel now."

https://gizmodo.com/venus-aerospace-hypersonic-plane-1849039397

:jerkbag:
The $33 million they raised might cover the hospitality suites needed to get real funding.

The 21 century brit graf zepplin has a better chance with Spain.

Lord Stimperor
Jun 13, 2018

I'm a lovable meme.

About airships, my ground school materials contain some shots of tiny one person airships. But I can't find anything reliable about them. Do they actually exist outside of weird hobbyists who build their own as a stunt? Are they any good?

drunkill
Sep 25, 2007

me @ ur posting
Fallen Rib
Hope the tethered paraglider was wearing his brown pants

https://i.imgur.com/Hrbui39.mp4

Lord Stimperor
Jun 13, 2018

I'm a lovable meme.

:dogstare:

I live in a small, dense, country. Somewhere there being a winch cable that I missed in the NOTAMs is like my #1 nightmare when flying.

Scam Likely
Feb 19, 2021

BIG HEADLINE posted:

So someone watched Top Gun Maverick and thought, "hmm, I'll bet I could scam some venture capitalists about hypersonic travel now."

https://gizmodo.com/venus-aerospace-hypersonic-plane-1849039397

:jerkbag:

To be fair, a significant portion of the population, including billionaires, have billiard ball smooth brains and think movies are documentaries soooo....

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Lord Stimperor posted:

About airships, my ground school materials contain some shots of tiny one person airships. But I can't find anything reliable about them. Do they actually exist outside of weird hobbyists who build their own as a stunt? Are they any good?

Calling Lawnchair Larry!

St_Ides
May 19, 2008

Lord Stimperor posted:

About airships, my ground school materials contain some shots of tiny one person airships. But I can't find anything reliable about them. Do they actually exist outside of weird hobbyists who build their own as a stunt? Are they any good?

I've only seen hot airships. I don't think any major company does significant production of them.

They're pretty much just an oblong hot air balloon Jerry rigged with an engine and control surfaces. I do see one that has some rigid internal structure but it doesn't look like it is in production as the latest info is from 12 years ago.

They're impractical to virtually useless. Even the one I linked above's "cruise speed" is 10mph. About 8 and half knots. When I fly a balloon I like my speed above ~250' to be 10-15kt, so it couldn't even remain stationary in good weather let alone make any significant progress upwind. Hot air balloons only fly at sunrise and sunset, the winds during the day are usually significantly higher and thermal activity is dangerous for balloons. It definitely cannot fly in weather much better than a standard balloon. And we can't/shouldn't fly in anything less than perfect conditions. You might be able to get some money for advertising but I would highly doubt that would cover much of the costs.

I've never seen a solo sized gas airship. Helium is expensive - a quick google says bulk price is about $7.57 per cubic meter - so filling something I'd expect a gas airship size would be would be $4000+ and no matter how good the bladders are they are constantly leaking. Hydrogen might be a possibility to use, as modern gas balloons do use it, but they also designed specifically for hydrogen, and it's harder to design a propelled aircraft to have nothing that could ignite the gas.

Beside lifting gas it'd be prohibitively expensive for any hobby use due to the cost/difficulty of a ground crew, as well as parking/protection for an airship. Unless you're a mega multi millionaire/billionaire it's not going to be possible.

Warbird
May 23, 2012

America's Favorite Dumbass

Where is Jerry anyway? Did the sky cops finally get him?

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

They might’ve read him the riot act. There were no public actions against his license but he’s stopped pretending to be an instructor and bragging about reckless flying.

Xakura
Jan 10, 2019

A safety-conscious little mouse!

St_Ides posted:

They're pretty much just an oblong hot air balloon Jerry rigged with an engine and control surfaces.

Can't tell if you're doing a Jerry joke - it's 'jury-rigged'.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

Xakura posted:

Can't tell if you're doing a Jerry joke - it's 'jury-rigged'.

Well, if we’re being technical…

quote:

The compound word 'jerry-built', a similar but distinct term, referring to things 'built unsubstantially of bad materials', has a separate origin from jury-rigged. The exact etymology is unknown, but it is probably linked to earlier pejorative uses of the word 'jerry', attested as early as 1721, and may have been influenced by 'jury-rigged'.

A jury rig is a 17th century term for a temporary or improvised repair to a sailing ship’s rig. Though quickly become applied to anything on a ship.

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye


:allears:

FrozenVent posted:

Those taxes already exist. When airships work out cheaper than planes, trust me, the switch will happen.

But not a second before.

I do think you are right in this very specific case, though I think it misses the broader point that airplanes and helicopters exist because they are good at different things, and airships are going to be good at a certain subset of flying things. On the other hand, there's a part of me that thinks you could replace a lot of helicopters with STOL airplanes, and an amphibious assault ship launching Buffaloes, modern An-2s, and turboprop Arado 232s that exist in my head would be pretty neat.

PS Did Lockmart give up on its airship?

e: quite a name

quote:

The Secretary of State for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy, Kwasi Kwarteng said: "Hybrid aircraft could play an important role as we transition to cleaner forms of aviation, and it is wonderful to see the UK right at the forefront of the technology's development."

Nebakenezzer fucked around with this message at 16:03 on Jun 17, 2022

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Full Collapse posted:

That’s what Matlab is for.

As long as stackoverflow is accessible from up there

e.pilot
Nov 20, 2011

sometimes maybe good
sometimes maybe shit

hobbesmaster posted:

They might’ve read him the riot act. There were no public actions against his license but he’s stopped pretending to be an instructor and bragging about reckless flying.

His flying has become very mundane and boring as well, he definitely got some extra training at some point.

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010

drunkill posted:

Hope the tethered paraglider was wearing his brown pants

Speaking of tethered flight / stolen from DnD techbro thread.

techbros re-invent trains but worse level 2. teathered train planes. also vtrol prop trainplanes.

Rebel Blob posted:

Indeed, enjoy 20 minutes of stilt buses:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kC4DwcrE658


// this one
Or more transportation of the future, like flying trains:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZJ0KGAIM_w


e: oh that was meant for gbs osha, didnt know the tethered paraglider posts was from here. hello auto subforum, sorry if i violated posting norms or culture.

PhazonLink fucked around with this message at 00:28 on Jun 18, 2022

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

Dahir Insaat is cheating

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



hobbesmaster posted:

They might’ve read him the riot act. There were no public actions against his license but he’s stopped pretending to be an instructor and bragging about reckless flying.

There's no way he didn't get threatened. Entitled old white men like him aren't introspective enough to change their behavior unless forced to by an outside authority that they don't think they can blow off.

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

PhazonLink posted:

Speaking of tethered flight / stolen from DnD techbro thread.

techbros re-invent trains but worse level 2. teathered train planes. also vtrol prop trainplanes.

e: oh that was meant for gbs osha, didnt know the tethered paraglider posts was from here. hello auto subforum, sorry if i violated posting norms or culture.

Can I just comment Dahir Insaat is a fine channel, but it is no techbro, english

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"
My aviation-slanted YouTube queue hit another pro-click video that also isn't that long: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXBdw1Ty38g

MisterOblivious
Mar 17, 2010

by sebmojo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCUD4joG_3g

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS


Everyone lived

The pilot has retrograde amnesia.

LostCosmonaut
Feb 15, 2014




Don't see one of these every day

Flikken
Oct 23, 2009

10,363 snaps and not a playoff win to show for it
P-36?

ThisIsJohnWayne
Feb 23, 2007
Ooo! Look at me! NO DON'T LOOK AT ME!



The trailing wing roots are wrong for a 36 and that's a twin wasp? engine or something else very pre-1940 US Navy looking

and I know I've seen that engine installation before on something common but what?

Bob A Feet
Aug 10, 2005
Dear diary, I got another erection today at work. SO embarrassing, but kinda hot. The CO asked me to fix up his dress uniform. I had stayed late at work to move his badges 1/8" to the left and pointed it out this morning. 1SG spanked me while the CO watched, once they caught it. Tomorrow I get to start all over again...
I totally thought P-36 too and agreed it didn’t look right so I looked up the registration. P-64. Never heard of her but cool nonetheless.

LostCosmonaut
Feb 15, 2014

It's a P-64, only 13 of them were built apparently; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_P-64

ThisIsJohnWayne posted:

The trailing wing roots are wrong for a 36 and that's a twin wasp? engine or something else very pre-1940 US Navy looking

and I know I've seen that engine installation before on something common but what?

From the wiki article it shares an ancestor with the T-6/SNJ (which are incredibly common), and uses an R-1820, which is also a fairly common engine.


That was one of my original guesses. It was giving me fits when I first saw it, it very much looks like 'generic late 1930s military aircraft'.

ImplicitAssembler
Jan 24, 2013

I was going to say Brewster, but the airscoop on top throws me off.

BalloonFish
Jun 30, 2013



Fun Shoe
Once you know it's a P-64 you start spotting all the T-6/Texan/Harvard bits - undercarriage, wing section, tail surfaces, front canopy etc.

vessbot
Jun 17, 2005
I don't like you because you're dangerous
Should have opened with "hold you thumb over the back of the canopy"

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slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

If you want a chunk of a downed Su34 or Ka52 and support a righteous cause

https://www.dronesforukraine.fund/

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