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Little man has become extremely attached to one particular caregiver at daycare that looks like a 20-something version of papa. He latches onto the guy and they play games the little dude imports to the home and expects me to magically know exactly how to play? At ~2, he doesn't know how to explain what he wants from the game, so I had to get a breakdown from the caregiver while dropping him off. Most of the games involve balls. What is with little people and balls?!?! What evolutionary pressure introduced balls?! It's not just one ball, but a variety. A complex and descending hierarchy of balls depending on bounce, texture, size and weight; with priorities ever-shifting depending on time of day, mood, and location.
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Just Offscreen posted:Anyone else enjoying the latest season of Bluey? I lost it at muscled Winton, specially the pec flexing.
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Sooo, anyone have any luck with finding a source for the pediatric COVID vaccine for <5 yet? Our pediatrician’s practice was like “nuh?”, and I’m not seeing the option on e.g. the Walgreens website yet. I thought the distribution was supposed to be in full swing.
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Jun 16, 2022 18:19
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As far as I know, the panel has said yes but the FDA hasn’t officially ruled so it’s not available for distribution yet.
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BadSamaritan posted:As far as I know, the panel has said yes but the FDA hasn’t officially ruled so it’s not available for distribution yet. It's this. The panel recommended that it get full approval now the full FDA board has to sign off on it or whatever.
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Pain of Mind posted:My 5 year old is extremely shy. She was playing at a park last Sunday about 20 yards from us and another ~ 5 year old came up to her and asked if they could be friends and play. Her reaction was to look around in horror for a few seconds before realizing we were too far away to talk for her, then she just turned around and ran away at full speed. We had to go to the other kid and explain it was not her fault, since she looked a little bit hurt and confused. After talking with the other kid for a bit, then my kid came over and talked and it turns out other 5 year olds are not that scary and they both like rainbow and cookies. My 2.5 year old is the same way. She’s had extreme stranger danger since around 9 months old and just melts down when others approach her, say hi, or even look at her. Any kind of doctor appointment is a total nightmare, she won’t even go on the scale or allow her height to get checked. Funny enough she’s fine in daycare, but when mom or dad are around, there is no interaction allowed with others. I hope as she gets a little older we can actually have more of a discussion about it.
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hallo spacedog posted:I appreciate all the great recommendations. We actually were not listening to any kids music at all for the first while but I discovered a couple months ago that although she hates the car in general, listening to kids music she knows so that she can "sing along" is the only thing that helps her enjoy the car. Regular music does not work for whatever reason. It's very odd but at least being in the car is way better now. Someone, probably in this thread, mentioned that kids don’t really have the interior landscape to process with some of the stimulation they come across, which I’m not sure I totally agree with, but with music and my baby it seems to track. I’d love to dive into some really awesome tunes right away, but the kids music probably gives her a lot more in the way of what she can engage with at the moment. Case in point: every car ride we get promoted by her belting out eeeiieeeiiioooooooo and then we do 65 rounds of old McDonald and she’s happy as a clam.
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Major thanks to whomever recommended Number Train. After getting only three hours of sleep thanks to insomnia and a baby, that song bought me 30 minutes of silence for morning preschool / daycare drop off so I could be a zombie in peace and not have to engage in endless chatter with my toddler son.
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A Bad King posted:Little man has become extremely attached to one particular caregiver at daycare that looks like a 20-something version of papa. He latches onto the guy and they play games the little dude imports to the home and expects me to magically know exactly how to play? At ~2, he doesn't know how to explain what he wants from the game, so I had to get a breakdown from the caregiver while dropping him off. Ooh ooh I can answer this one. Humans have basically two extraordinary adaptations that gave us so much of an edge over other animals that it gave us room to develop big brains: we can jog drat near forever and we throw arbitrary objects extremely hard with pinpoint accuracy. Throwing and rolling balls scratches a very deep itch and develops a really important part of the brain that let us survive. If you are ever in a situation where a wild animal is threatening/following you throwing a few things at it is usually all it takes to scare it off. As far as the rest of the animal kingdom is concerned we are telekinesis wizards. Also balls are fun they go booooiiiing!
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Jun 17, 2022 03:54
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The fact that a human brain can calculate the parabolic trajectory of any object in 3d space, within an inch, is loving incredible magic Outfielders in baseball games look super lazy, but they're catching a 3" diameter ball launched 150-200 feet away from them, and catch it 85% of the time without letting it bounce first, then throw it to their buddy 100 feet away, who also catches it without bouncing, all in about 8 seconds. Football, basketball etc etc
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I mean my cat can nail an eight foot long jump onto a six inch by six inch target when jumping from the windowsill onto my desk, so while the throwing part might be uniquely human the mathematical complexity is not.
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Jun 17, 2022 07:10
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But late on music chat, but you can totally go outside kid's music for kids. As a toddler, I loving LOVED Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers (still do), to the point that one of the most epic tantrums I ever threw was because my mom couldn't afford to take me to see them when they came to our area for a concert.
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AngryRobotsInc posted:But late on music chat, but you can totally go outside kid's music for kids. As a toddler, I loving LOVED Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers (still do), to the point that one of the most epic tantrums I ever threw was because my mom couldn't afford to take me to see them when they came to our area for a concert. Please God tell me you yelled "You don't know how it feels to be me!!!!!" at her
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Jun 17, 2022 13:31
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I listened to lots of oldies as a kid, but was particularly fond of those goofy 50’s songs. Monster Mash, Purple People Eater, almost anything by the Coasters. My dad was a collector of old radios and records, so I also listened to a lot of Elvis, The Beach Boys and The Beatles. Yellow Submarine and Octopus’s Garden are just a couple of the more kiddy Beatles songs. There are also a ton of goofy songs from the 80’s that kids would find fun. Walk Like an Egyptian, Video Killed the Radio Star, etc…
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Nessa posted:There are also a ton of goofy songs from the 80’s that kids would find fun. Walk Like an Egyptian, Video Killed the Radio Star, etc… Two of my absolute favorite songs as a late 80s-early 90s toddler/young child (besides the previously mention EVERYTHING from Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnP7ZaYBdqc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmcA9LIIXWw Edit: And one of my son's favorites when he was younger https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p44G0U4sLCE AngryRobotsInc fucked around with this message at 14:11 on Jun 17, 2022 |
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Shifty Pony posted:Ooh ooh I can answer this one. That makes sense! Thanks for sharing. They are fun! Also chase games, games of hiding and finding the hidden thing/person, balancing games, games with water, games involving putting the shape in the right place, games with blocks, games involving indiscriminate or careful destruction/deconstruction, games with unexpected twists, and games that involve playing all the above very very quietly while mama sleeps a bit longer (the hardest kind of game).
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I’m sorry to be a downer but I need some perspective… how the gently caress do you feel with people that insist that climate change is going to kill us all in 30 years and it’s irresponsible to have kids? How do you not also succumb to that way of thinking 
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remigious posted:I’m sorry to be a downer but I need some perspective… how the gently caress do you feel with people that insist that climate change is going to kill us all in 30 years and it’s irresponsible to have kids? How do you not also succumb to that way of thinking Recognize that it's doomerism and, while understandable, should not be factored into your decisions for the future
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Jun 17, 2022 16:43
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remigious posted:I’m sorry to be a downer but I need some perspective… how the gently caress do you feel with people that insist that climate change is going to kill us all in 30 years and it’s irresponsible to have kids? How do you not also succumb to that way of thinking I mean, if you're going to take a fatalistic approach to it, why not go all the way? Nothing matters anyhow, because we're all going to die. I mean, your kids will live what, 80-90 years? Then die? Why bother, so they can have kids of their own (who will also die eventually)? Hell, if we all die in 30 years then this is a perfect time to have kids! They get to live the best part of their lives without pressure of having to worry about retirement or raising kids of their own! They get to have fun while the rest of us have to be responsible for them and deal with aging. Real talk: IMO those are just excuses. Those are people who you could never talk in to having kids. They're finding a reason to latch on to to justify their decision. Not that their decision not to have kids needs justification, but they think it does. They feel like "I just don't want to" isn't a good excuse, so they find something else. If anything, our biological responsibility is to perpetuate the species at all costs. Failure to do so based on some future doomsday scenario, real or perceived, is irresponsible. If our fate is such that procreation is irresponsible, then its our job to work against that and make it responsible again. Accepting defeat is a self-fulfilling prophecy.
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Thank you, I appreciate your thoughts. There are plenty of studies that support the notion that it’s not too late to turn climate change around…we just can’t wait. In any case I don’t think halting the perpetuation of our species is the answer. I’m just sick of hearing that talking point.
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remigious posted:Thank you, I appreciate your thoughts. There are plenty of studies that support the notion that it’s not too late to turn climate change around…we just can’t wait. In any case I don’t think halting the perpetuation of our species is the answer. I’m just sick of hearing that talking point. Things are going to get much worse, but even with the worst projections the sun will still shine, there will still be beauty in the world, and people will find reasons and the means to keep living.
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Raise good kids, maybe they’ll be the ones to find some sort of solution, or they will be able to provide help and comfort to others. I agree with everything above, there will still be beauty, pain, love. Even in the worst case, human beings are adaptable.
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I just think about how throughout history even in the hardest and most hosed up places to live people still choose to have and raise kids. I do think the circumstances my kid lives through will be overall worse than the ones I do, and I respect anyone who doesn’t want to have kids because of that, but I doubt most of those people would feel comfortable lecturing a Somali parent or Ukrainian parent that it’s “irresponsible” of them to have children.
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Yeah, the whole "Earth will be uninhabitable/we're all going to die!" viewpoint doesn't line up with current projections. It's still gonna suck, but you aren't automatically dooming your children. The other argument I found persuasive was that climate fatalism is the next logical step of climate denial as an excuse for inaction. It's inevitable, so why do anything about it? Just accept that you are dooming future generations to misery and don't do anything that might make it better or transform our world into one they can happily live in. gently caress those guys
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remigious posted:I’m sorry to be a downer but I need some perspective… how the gently caress do you feel with people that insist that climate change is going to kill us all in 30 years and it’s irresponsible to have kids? How do you not also succumb to that way of thinking just recognize that it usually comes from a toxic mix of powerlessness and misanthropy. The average person largely can't do much to help stop climate change as even making massive lifestyle changes and completely rejecting all modern things merely makes the most marginal contribution to not increasing carbon release. But wait here comes this community of folks who tell you that you don't need to worry about your inability to fix it (because doom is so close that we have no hope of avoiding it) but also that the best thing to do involves not doing something that you haven't done yet and were already on the fence about wanting to do anyway. Wow, that's pretty drat great! Oh it also saves you a ton of money and you get to claim the highest of moral high grounds (not hurting kids), fantastic! Some of the other schools of antinatalist thought actually raise very deep philosophical issues and provoke meaningful introspection, but I have zero patience for the climate doom in X years folks.
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remigious posted:I’m sorry to be a downer but I need some perspective… how the gently caress do you feel with people that insist that climate change is going to kill us all in 30 years and it’s irresponsible to have kids? How do you not also succumb to that way of thinking
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ExcessBLarg! posted:The people willing to drive the Earth off the cliff have no qualms about having children and raising them to be selfish assholes. Having children and raising them to respect science, and the world, is actually necessary to doing the best we can here. We need the votes! I agree! I’m feeling much less depressed now. There are still good people out there doing good things, and we need to give our kids the opportunity to do good in the world too.
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remigious posted:I agree! I’m feeling much less depressed now. There are still good people out there doing good things, and we need to give our kids the opportunity to do good in the world too. My mom always said that humanity will always need well-raised kids to try and make things better. Not having kids is a fine choice for many. Having kids is also a fine choice.
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Mood stabilizing drugs, distracting myself, and trying to be the best possible parent I can be in the moment. Like others have said, poo poo's gonna *suck* but we're not looking at a Mad Max or The Road style future for our kids or our grandkids no matter how much doomporn folks get off on. The best thing we can do is raise good kids filled with love, respect, understanding, and resilience. Give them the tools we can because, as stated above, we always need more good people if you do decide to have kids. As for music, my stepdaughter the tiny tyrant has been lost to the hellpit that is music from Disney movies but she'll also listen to Motown. My son the ogre toddler digs both Kpop and electroswing. Neither of them seem to like Clutch or The Sword, more's the pity.
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remigious posted:I’m sorry to be a downer but I need some perspective… how the gently caress do you feel with people that insist that climate change is going to kill us all in 30 years and it’s irresponsible to have kids? How do you not also succumb to that way of thinking Climate change means that some places will get drier (california) other places will get wetter (florida, texas). Actually overall rainfall will increase it's not like we're going to be living in a mad max movie in 30 years* In the 1960s (back when it rained a lot more) we were discovering all these old mayan/native american settlements in the jungle in mexico, utah, arizona and like "why would these people all just get up and leave in a 5 year period??" and now we're tipping back into another "megadrought" and it's a lot more obvious. Those people didn't die off (except the really stubborn ones), they just migrated to where the water was Also stop hanging out with people talking about poo poo like that, yikes * I would probably not invest in california central valley land, nevada, utah, AZ NM though
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Having kids provides me with motivation to make the world a better place. And it's the most hopeful thing I can do, personally, as someone with a ton of depression and anxiety. Also this article helped me recently: Your Kids Are Not Doomed
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LMAO our inlaws who help watch the baby have COVID. Kiddo has been kinda sniffly. If he gets sick the day before he can get his shots it's gonna be very upsetting.
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I chunked off a big piece of skin from my daughter's finger this evening clipping nails. It's finally slowing down bleeding. Ughhhhh gently caress me. Not sure what the best bandage technique is here. Any ideas?
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External Organs posted:I chunked off a big piece of skin from my daughter's finger this evening clipping nails. It's finally slowing down bleeding. Ughhhhh gently caress me. They make little butterfly looking bandaids for fingertips.
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remigious posted:I’m sorry to be a downer but I need some perspective… how the gently caress do you feel with people that insist that climate change is going to kill us all in 30 years and it’s irresponsible to have kids? How do you not also succumb to that way of thinking Prepare. Give your kids every advantage you can. We’ve been lucky enough to arrange for them to have continent-spanning nationalities for high mobility. Everything we do at this stage is geared towards securing the little critters, and to preserve/acquire assets that they can fall back on when things get worse. Kind of like prepping, but along a generational axis?
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L0cke17 posted:LMAO our inlaws who help watch the baby have COVID. We did some biggish home renovation last weekend, and had the MIL watch our 18mo for like 8 hours. She neglected to tell us she had a ‘summer cold’ that started the day before. Now my wife and I, my mom, her husband and both in-laws are all positive. And, we assume, our baby is too. I’d like some help with the timeline, if anyone else’s infant has had it. We assume she picked it up from MIL on Saturday, and was grumpy, irritable all week, with an occasional mild fever and stuffy nose. No coughing or respiratory symptoms, but she has been eating like poo poo, which we assumed was teething. We could tell something was off for baby but she’s a lot more animated (tho still crabby) today. Wifey and I have been feeling a little crummy for 2 days, but just tested this morning. Is it safe to assume an unvaxxed baby could feel it in a few days after exposure? Our ped said to assume she got it and just keep an eye out for distress. Cherry on top-After taking the test, but before the results, my wife asked me to open an early fathers day gift, which was a “big sister” shirt for baby, because she’s pregnant again. In under ten seconds from that, the test was positive. Fun morning!!
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Nessa posted:There are also a ton of goofy songs from the 80’s that kids would find fun. Walk Like an Egyptian, Video Killed the Radio Star, etc… at age 7 I, like the rest of the country, was OBSESSED with Sledgehammer. But despite my best efforts to introduce the kid to Out of Touch, Easy Lover, Africa, and of course the GOAT Smooth by Santana featuring Rob Thomas of Matchbox 20, she insists on Blinding Lights or Imagine Dragons instead. Also I will murder whoever introduced her to Cotton Eye Joe. This is not a joke I will straight up go to prison with a smile on my face.
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meanolmrcloud posted:We did some biggish home renovation last weekend, and had the MIL watch our 18mo for like 8 hours. She neglected to tell us she had a ‘summer cold’ that started the day before. Now my wife and I, my mom, her husband and both in-laws are all positive. And, we assume, our baby is too. I’d like some help with the timeline, if anyone else’s infant has had it. Our 2yr just had it right before his second birthday a few weeks ago. It was some extra snot and a wacky fever for two days that came and went several times but never got over 101.3°F. I don't know if Motrin was effective or not because the fever was very transitory. He gave it to me (almost certainly because right before we tested him he had demanded 15 solid minutes of daddy tickle belly and I'm sure laughing that hard is quite effective at spreading it) and I had a very very slight sore throat for a day and that's it. Mrs Pony never got it but we did immediately go into wearing N95s and cranking the air purifiers all day when the kid tested positive. If you are in the US and you have any "high risk" condition for COVID (which includes mental illness) you can probably get paxlovid if the symptoms are bothering you. You need to start it within 5 days of symptoms; my doctor jerked me around on scheduling an appointment for it but there are telehealth options. Your wife might not be able to take it though (congrats on the double fatherhood coming up). Also I can understand mixing it up with allergies if you regularly get them but a "summer cold"? On vaccines: this epidemiologist has a good rundown on the FDA meeting and what it means. Fwiw she's getting her kids moderna because of the combination of more reliable data and moderna having an omicron booster already in the pipeline.
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Thanks! I’m glad everyone is recovering well and it didn’t sound too serious. I feel pretty ok: the start of a headache and a slightly sore throat but nothing too bad. The wifey has more of a cough, and that’s a definite worry. I’ve got an urgent care down the street that said they could write an rx given that I take a test there, and technically I am a slightly overweight former smoker but I’ll give it a day or two and see how I feel. I’d love to go off on the MIL as she is still trying to figure out how we all could’ve gotten infected, but does not want to admit she was irresponsible not telling us she was sick. We’ll just have to be much more suspicious of her decision making in the future.
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