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CharlieFoxtrot posted:the end of that list is scraping the barrel a bit You're not hyped for the Diofield Chronicles???
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stev posted:I'm not holding out any hope for the bottom two being good, but there's potential there at least. Star Ocean had a really interesting premise and fun gameplay and then each game got progressively worse.
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stev posted:I'm not holding out any hope for the bottom two being good, but there's potential there at least. There is no reason to play Star Ocean, it’s a bottom of the barrel jrpg series. Some people play it anyways because they are compelled to play every jrpg series Hope that helps!
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I had to experience the Ballad of EDGE MAVERKICK
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SyntheticPolygon posted:Giving knives to kids is badass. Gaius Marius posted:Someone bought me an AV once cause they didn't think kids could use knives NikkolasKing posted:My big brother got a hunting knife when he was around Hope's age. Did you all learn nothing from Crack Stuntman, the voice behind Gunshaver on the Cheat Command Show? Kidz Don't Play Wit' 2 Many Knives ImpAtom posted:To be clear he still has Jenova Cells and Mako Infusions. He is still effectively a SOLDIER, just not one who would have been a success if not for Zack dying and the shock making Cloud rebuild his fractured mind around him Correct. Cloud is incredibly physically strong, he's built like a SOLDIER and that's why nobody questions it when he says he is. It should also be noted that as he failed out of SOLDIER, Cloud did not actually have the Jenova cells or Mako infusion until after Sephiroth burned down Nibelheim and he and Zack were captured. At least as far as the original FF7 is concerned, I don't know if Remake changed that.
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Twelve by Pies posted:
yeah, Cloud gets the works when Hojo has Zack and him
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Senator Drinksalot posted:Star Ocean had a really interesting premise and fun gameplay and then each game got progressively worse. star ocean's basic premise kept me engaged until star ocean 3 revealed that actually the entire series had been lying to the player and the real premise was different and stupid
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That star ocean game literally has no date and it's halfway to june
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:the end of that list is scraping the barrel a bit DioField deserves a mention just because of how wild it is that Square Enix seems to be releasing (or potentially releasing) two brand new strategy/tactics RPGs in TYOOL 2022
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The PS2 Star Ocean has by far the dumbest, most "gently caress you" twist and ending I've ever encountered in an RPG, maybe in any game
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Star Ocean Integrity and Faithlessness was definitely a game I played.
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Chaotic Flame posted:Star Ocean peaked with SO2 unfortunately It was also the first star ocean. The 2 and the prologue was a joke.
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stranger of paradise's loot treadmill is definitely Too Much but it's varied enough to give you an addictive reason to keep pushing forward just this endless escalation of silly outfits
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Twelve by Pies posted:It should also be noted that as he failed out of SOLDIER, Cloud did not actually have the Jenova cells or Mako infusion until after Sephiroth burned down Nibelheim and he and Zack were captured. At least as far as the original FF7 is concerned, I don't know if Remake changed that. Yeah. In Nibelheim, he throws Sephy into the lifestream through sheer force of will.
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Tae posted:That star ocean game literally has no date and it's halfway to june SE said they were going to announce stuff about it later this month, the 23rd off the top of my head.
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CottonWolf posted:Yeah. In Nibelheim, he throws Sephy into the lifestream through sheer force of will. that's half Sephiroth's obsession. he got punked right after he decided to break bad by some reject who couldn't cut it
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OpenAI generates some high quality fan fiction
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Golbez is a punk rear end bitch who gets punked at the end by an old bitch
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Senator Drinksalot posted:I had to experience the Ballad of EDGE MAVERKICK Why does nobody remember FATE LINEGOD? Edge and Maverick are at least real names. And SO4 was more fun than 3 for me. I got to actually travel in space on a spaceship.
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jokes posted:FF3DS fixed it ff3ds made the combat even worse by loving up boss stats and not changing their scripting meaning every boss could just roll it's party wide hit they almost all had twice and just nuke you no response possible. That remake is dogshit.
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:ff3ds made the combat even worse by loving up boss stats and not changing their scripting meaning every boss could just roll it's party wide hit they almost all had twice and just nuke you no response possible. Also turn order was basically random so the boss could go before your fastest dudes for no reason. Also they added a system that punishes you for changing jobs in a game where you are required to roll with specific jobs in specific areas. Just awful decisions all around. FFIV DS was good though
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FFIV 3D has its flaws but the difficulty is 100% intentional and actually gave gimmicks to its bosses, like Luggage periodically inverting damage and healing to gently caress you up but also letting you kill him with Elixirs.
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I've been thinking about how some FFs tend to focus on a particular concept in their encounter design. 3, nearly from end to end, is heals turn economy; a boss does a fixed amount of partywide damage per round and your comp is governed (until the endgame and exactly two people worth of endgame weapons without hyperleveling an OK or Karateka) by whether you want to bet that a single healer is enough to survive even boss goes last/boss goes first moments; otherwise it does overwhelming damage to a single target and your comp is governed by whether you want a dedicated Raiser for the dedicated Raiser. 5 is pretty obsessed with the idea of controlling damage focus; it seems like a majority of the bosses fall into the categories of "has a nasty counter", "multiple targets and spirals out of control if not killed at the same time", or "multiple targets and spirals out of control if not killed one by one". Are there similar trends in others that I'm missing?
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NikkolasKing posted:Why does nobody remember FATE LINEGOD? Edge and Maverick are at least real names. Neither do you apparently; the character's name is Fayt Leingod
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People talk about SO3's Fayt Leingod, but fail to mention the absolute lad Cliff Fittir.
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I remember Jacked Teddy, he had a move that was just Literally A Kamehameha.
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Ooooh the summons in FFXII are the big boss dudes that I remember from the Ivalice raids. Just got Belias after a rather attrition-y boss fight. EDIT: LMAO is this a Force ghost? 
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Mustached Demon posted:You all know exactly where it'll end.  mithril mine
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Wrong thread 
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Namnesor posted:Neither do you apparently; the character's name is Fayt Leingod Not sure if you're joking or not because the spelling is irrelevant, it's pronounced the same way. It was FaTe Linegod in Japanese but the localization spelled it wrong because I guess it was the early 2000s and bad spelling was cool.
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Vosslerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!! 
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Mandoric posted:I've been thinking about how some FFs tend to focus on a particular concept in their encounter design. FFXIII is all about using mechanics to stagger the enemy. Then, FFXV was about using mechanics to stagger the enemy. After that was FF7R, which is about using mechanics to stagger the enemy
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X was built around dealing with each enemy's core gimmick. Had wakkas kind of customers, flans, etc. Bosses generally had their gimmicks to learn and overcome too.
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While I know "Colonies resisting their imperial occupiers" is a pretty common trope, it feels like parts of Stormblood were a nod to FFXII. In addition to the reused mobs (the chimeras and rabbits and a couple others I'm sure I missed and more I haven't seen yet). Also add Monty Python and the Holy Grail to "Movies FFXII seems to reference". You know what part I'm talking about.
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