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Charity Porno posted:More of next week: Yesssssssssss!!! Every frame of that looks amazing.
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The crew find an old issue of Tean Beat magazine and all take the relationship compatibility quiz. Chapel and Spock score an 11 out of 10 and turn into salamanders. Dr. M'benga keeps reading the same article about Corky Nemec to his daughter.
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CPColin posted:The crew find an old issue of Tean Beat magazine and all take the relationship compatibility quiz. Chapel and Spock score an 11 out of 10 and turn into salamanders. Dr. M'benga keeps reading the same article about Corky Nemec to his daughter. Wil Wheaton is in said issue causing a paradox which threatens the galaxy
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HD DAD posted:I will say, I kinda look forward to SNW just making GBS threads the bed for one episode. What will this show’s Threshold be? I hope it’s as entertaining as that. 
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Charity Porno posted:More of next week: HD DAD posted:Can I preemptively make an episode my favorite of the season?  If only he had his fishing hat for his crown...
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If they created M’Benga’s tragic sick daughter subplot just to feed into and service this absolute goofshow of an episode, I will love it forever.
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Charity Porno posted:More of next week: You know what’s great? This is the eighth episode of a brand new show and the characters are already so firmly established that they can have an episode like this subverting that characterization and have it be fun and meaningful. Almost nobody in Discovery has this much character four seasons in, much less eight episodes.
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Jun 18, 2022 00:35
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Computer, prepare a holodeck episode on a ship that doesn't have a holodeck. "WOR-KING"
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Yeah having an off format episode in season 1 is brave. Discovery did 4 of them which was kind of insanely brave. TNG did theirs in episode 2 which, lol Although for TNG I think they did that because they literally had no other script to shoot which lol
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Arglebargle III posted:Yeah having an off format episode in season 1 is brave. Discovery did 4 of them which was kind of insanely brave. Which TNG episode
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Phylodox posted:You know what’s great? This is the eighth episode of a brand new show and the characters are already so firmly established that they can have an episode like this subverting that characterization and have it be fun and meaningful. Almost nobody in Discovery has this much character four seasons in, much less eight episodes. If any of the main cast is missing from this episode I'll just assume they've locked themselves in their quarters to build Sisko's weird clock
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zoux posted:Which TNG episode I presume the reference is to The Naked Now.
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Charity Porno posted:More of next week: This is EXACTLY the kind of bullshit the Squire of Gothos would pull.
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Arglebargle III posted:Yeah having an off format episode in season 1 is brave. Discovery did 4 of them which was kind of insanely brave. DS9 did it with Dramatis Personae, which I've always liked.
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Was that at the end of season 1 or the beginning of season 2?
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Timby posted:I presume the reference is to The Naked Now. Yeah I misread that as season 2
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Glad she got to be in an infinitely better piece of Multiverse-centered cinema. Go watch Everything, Everywhere, All at once y'all. It is very very good. Also I'm honestly a bit nervous about the next SNW episode, but if I get anything like this it can be very worth it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ri5S4Hcq0nY
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Orthanc6 posted:Go watch Everything, Everywhere, All at once y'all. It is very very good. I was going to see this but decided I'm pretty sick of universe hopping stuff in fiction for a while. Star Trek has played a bit of a part in that, but it's the mainstream culture in general. I don't want to see things amped up to maximum fantasy for a while.
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FishFood posted:I really liked the combination of representation with the character of Dr. Aspen and the use of Spock's background as a trans/NB metaphor. It's a cool example of having your cake and eating it too. With a show like Star Trek and its utopian future you obviously want to show liberated trans/NB people, but there's also huge value in telling a story about the struggles they are experiencing now. So in this episode Dr. Aspen is around and uses they/them and it is totally cool, everyone respects and admires their work (until the jig is up) and in the world of SNW their gender is a complete non-issue and goes unremarked, there's no stumbling with pronouns or anything. But, we the audience are clued in by T'Pring's mention of The Argonauts and Dr. Aspen's conversation with Spock that this is a story about expression and self-discovery using Spock's struggle learning if he is Vulcan, human, both, or neither as a metaphor for how people today learn about their gender/other identity. It's a great modernization of classic Trek allegory and god drat this show is pretty good. It's funny they've gone with NB twice and still not had transgender. I assume that's because in the future a transgender person will only be distinguishable from a cisgender person if they want to be. Chekov could have been a trans man the whole time and we never knew, because by TOS gender reassignment surgery was basically flawless. By DS9 they could probably re-write your DNA and grow you functional gonads so you wouldn't even need HRT. If are one end or the other of the gender binary it's just not a problem, so only non-binary humans remain noticeable.
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realistically by trek time the genetic surgery would be good enough you could finally get udders with each hotdog dispensing a different kind of drink inside.
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That was a really fun episode, and I lost my poo poo at the Sybok reveal. I guess the plan was to do Star Trek V but much earlier? The only thing in the episode that made no sense to me was Una saying that they needed permission to leave Federation space. Since when?
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Khanstant posted:realistically by trek time the genetic surgery would be good enough you could finally get udders with each hotdog dispensing a different kind of drink inside. Good point. Maybe that 2 dick klingon was a personal choice and not generally representative of klingons at all. Dude was born with 1, had another one made just because he wanted 2.
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Facebook Aunt posted:By DS9 they could probably re-write your DNA and grow you functional gonads so you wouldn't even need HRT. "Profit and Lace" is trash, but it does strongly imply that even with a frontier station's janky sickbay you can still pretty much walk into a pod or something and walk out with the body you need in the space of like, an afternoon, with zero recovery time required, about as easily as Ranma Saotome falling into a cursed spring
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Two subtle things in the episode I really liked: After the discussion about how Ortegas enjoys flying the ship manually and is really concentrating when she does it, they show a shot of the landing party leaving the bridge with a foreground shot of Ortegas still totally engrossed in flying the ship. Later, as the crew is stoking the mutiny in the stupid Pirates, there's a shot with La'an in the background just kind of rolling her eyes at how absurd the whole thing is. Two little moments that show that the actors and the editors have a really good handle on these characters. Lesser shows don't get shots like that.
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Melissa Navia has said she's missed lines (and therefore blown the scene) because she's so busy pretending to fly the ship. So truth in fiction.
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Facebook Aunt posted:It's funny they've gone with NB twice and still not had transgender. I assume that's because in the future a transgender person will only be distinguishable from a cisgender person if they want to be. Chekov could have been a trans man the whole time and we never knew, because by TOS gender reassignment surgery was basically flawless. By DS9 they could probably re-write your DNA and grow you functional gonads so you wouldn't even need HRT. If are one end or the other of the gender binary it's just not a problem, so only non-binary humans remain noticeable. Isn't Grey, on Discovery, a trans man? I'm only halfway through S4, so maybe there's more after that.
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Charity Porno posted:More of next week: Holy poo poo, is it happening, are we getting a Space God loving with the crew and eventually getting taken down a peg or two!?!  A.o.D. posted:This is EXACTLY the kind of bullshit the Squire of Gothos would pull. Yes! YES! 
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eth0.n posted:Isn't Grey, on Discovery, a trans man? I'm only halfway through S4, so maybe there's more after that. I think the actor is, I'm not sure they've confirmed that about the character. You're right though, I didn't remember him. So there is a trans character, it's just someone that doesn't have a physical body at all (until they give robot body).
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Grand Fromage posted:It's not taking risks, the plots are familiar. SNW is just pounding out a solid 6/10 every week. Which feels amazing given the poo poo they've been shoveling for so long. I hope they'll do something more with it once they're comfortable, I expect season 2 to take some more risks. It's at least a 7. A six is a bad score, that would mean the episodes are legit bad.
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HD DAD posted:I think “really, really good but not mind blowing” alone makes this the best first season of a live-action Trek, barring TOS. It's definitely getting right into gear and not churning out absolute clunkers. I'd have to go back and rewatch stuff to be sure, but I'd probably agree with that assessment. For some reason my mind is telling me that Enterprise might have had a better first season than SNW has had so far but that can't possibly be right... can it?
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I love how Captain Angel immediately started doing the evil voice once she revealed herself. One must respect evil tradition. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cFzABv0xMU
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I think Angel veered to hard into camp for the back half of the episode and I got tone whiplash but judging from everyone's glowing reviews of this episode I might be alone in feeling this.
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Eej posted:I think Angel veered to hard into camp for the back half of the episode and I got tone whiplash but judging from everyone's glowing reviews of this episode I might be alone in feeling this. Once the "twist" got revealed I thought their performance was rather overplayed too, though I will say having seen their crew it wasn't all that surprising that they figure they wouldn't grasp subtlety very well. I do think it's hilarious though that even while playing the role of the high-minded humanitarian they couldn't resist popping into an all-black catsuit like they were a villain in 1960s Batman 
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Eej posted:I think Angel veered to hard into camp for the back half of the episode and I got tone whiplash but judging from everyone's glowing reviews of this episode I might be alone in feeling this. It was definitely my first reaction, I spent a bit on the fence, but after a while I ended up firmly in the "no, this is great" category. It suited them to be a person that shows absolutely no self-restraint, no attempt to show any sign of decorum or class. Just raw, unfiltered id.
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jim should be remembering sam saying something goofy like “yahtzee”
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twistedmentat posted:Its funny how Jeffrey Hunter didn't continue on with Star Trek because his wife thought the show was beneath him. Looking at the guy's career at that point, this truly has that "Tell Elvis to keep driving truck" -energy. Or how that one guy did exactly one Bond movie and then walked, because his agent was certain that hippie comedies were the next big thing and Bond movies were just waste of time.
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