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loquacius posted:https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10038860-celtics-robert-williams-talks-injury-says-he-had-knee-drained-a-lot-during-ecf 😭
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Time posted:lol I live in Boston you moron you're not the guy who talks about the saints in the boston thread? I dunno man I have avatar blindness
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Jun 17, 2022 17:13
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im glad bill simmons is here sharing his thoughts with us
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loquacius posted:you're not the guy who talks about the saints in the boston thread? I dunno man I have avatar blindness no lmao
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Time posted:im glad bill simmons is here sharing his thoughts with us yeah sorry not everyone can have such keen insights as "😭"
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Jun 17, 2022 17:14
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loquacius posted:yeah sorry not everyone can have such keen insights as "😭" 😭
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Jun 17, 2022 17:15
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"fatigue and injury played a pretty big role in this good team suddenly playing like poo poo" "actually the celtics were healthy" "what? here's an article about how one of the starters had to repeatedly have his knee drained of fluid" "😭" having fun online
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loquacius posted:"fatigue and injury played a pretty big role in this good team suddenly playing like poo poo" 😭
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Jun 17, 2022 17:16
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embrace me my friend and let us weep manly tears together
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Jun 17, 2022 17:17
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loquacius posted:https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10038860-celtics-robert-williams-talks-injury-says-he-had-knee-drained-a-lot-during-ecf had too much dawg in 'em
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Jun 17, 2022 17:17
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they were so tired they forgot how to dribble left.
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Jun 17, 2022 17:23
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Time posted:lol I live in Boston you moron My condolences
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Jun 17, 2022 17:23
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some sort of fish posted:they were so tired they forgot how to dribble left. I love JB but someone gotta send him to "how to dribble" camp absolutely
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Jun 17, 2022 17:23
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jaylen brown is a land of contrasts, on the one hand he was the only shooter actually shooting in our bad games, on the other hand he kept disappearing into a dust cloud of Warriors and emerging with no basketball I blame it on too much exposure to Kyrie in his impressionable youth
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Jun 17, 2022 17:25
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I don't think it's a productive use of time for JB Bickerstaff to go to dribble camp.
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Jun 17, 2022 17:31
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loquacius posted:I love JB but someone gotta send him to "how to dribble" camp absolutely think this was a much bigger issue for tatum tbh. tatum had a 48% ts while shooting 41% from 3 on more than 7 shots a game. insane stat.
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Jun 17, 2022 20:04
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Tatum is definitely why they lost. how many more chances is this guy gonna get to choke.
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Femur posted:Tatum is definitely why they lost. how many more chances is this guy gonna get to choke. 100 turnovers in the playoffs
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Femur posted:Tatum is definitely why they lost. how many more chances is this guy gonna get to choke. Tatum and their bench going from real good in game one to unspeakably bad by game six.
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Vox Nihili posted:Tatum and their bench going from real good in game one to unspeakably bad by game six. The East got bad between games one and six
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Jun 18, 2022 00:23
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I'm happy that Boston lost and also furious that the Warriors won
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euphronius posted:jokic is still a fraud at least .
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Punkin Spunkin posted:Nuggets winning it all next year, book it not sure Euph would survive that
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adding a healthy all-star guard to the nuggets as constructed last year should be a title contender. the sixers should also add an all-star guard.
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I have legitimately never watched Jokic play a game, and I have constructed from context that OP doesn't like him, but I have absolutely no idea why not Despite getting MVP this year he's not even the most famous or accomplished eastern European player with an -ic name
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I didn't even see the game where Grant Williams started telling people to call him Batman but something's telling me that'd be a bad example
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Jun 18, 2022 12:33
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Celtics offense completely disappears versus the second best defense in the league, they must've been injured! One thing we know isn't true is that the team which won and has won half of the last eight is both good at basketball and was peaking at the right time that definitely couldn't be it.
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Yeah personally I hate when people say anything about sports other than that good sports man is good at sports, because then we lose sight of the core of sports discussion: the team that won the basketball trophy is good at basketball. Let's just say that over and over until the next season and nothing else because otherwise we might forget. Let me just pour myself a tall glass of healthy knee juice and we can get started
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(to be clear, yes, obviously the Warriors are good at basketball, it's plainly obvious to anyone who saw those ridiculous 3s they kept nailing, and despite Jaylen's handle being an issue throughout the postseason you have to be good at D to really exploit it. I'm not contesting any of this. I just want to examine why the C's melted down so hard because the Dubs are not in fact the first good basketball team they ever played)
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it’s simple the warriors had a month off and the Celtics played the two other east teams in the playoffs
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Probably the biggest difference maker for the Dubs was their bench Steph couldn't be on 100% of the time (he's not Playoff Jimmy Buckets) but Wiggins and Poole were lights out In earlier games Grant or White would occasionally step up to pick up some slack but in the Finals nobody did and the starters were too gassed to carry euphronius posted:it’s simple the warriors had a month off and the Celtics played the two other east teams in the playoffs But then Boston lost, which retroactively proves those teams were always bad
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TDepressionEarl posted:adding a healthy all-star guard to the nuggets as constructed last year should be a title contender. the sixers should also add an all-star guard. who's the All-Star guard the nuggets are adding? Jamal Murray has never been and probably never will be an all-star if that's who you mean and Tyrese Maxey was already as good as or possibly better than current Jamal Murray in only his second season
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Stevie Lee posted:who's the All-Star guard the nuggets are adding? Jamal Murray has never been and probably never will be an all-star if that's who you mean Correct may never be an All-Star because Ja Morant, LaMelo Ball, and Karl Anthony-Towns may crowd out him out of the young squad; but I personally maintain Jamal Murray was worthy of an All-Star slot over Ben Simmons in 2021 before he got injured. I expect Maxey and Murray to be more valuable in 2022-23 than Harden and Simmons, both of whom the All-Star guard dig was directed at.
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Luka Doncic doesn't even count as young anymore, now that he's been in the conference finals he has to carry that franchise on his shoulders until he demands a trade in 2025 when he will be 26.
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loquacius posted:I just want to examine why the C's melted down so hard because the Dubs are not in fact the first good basketball team they ever played) Honestly I think it's just that. The C's play intense defense that normally generated a lot of their points but against a high motion team that makes defense more tiring and against a defense almost as good as their own in the half court they just ran out of weapons when their bench couldn't do anything. They might've played some good teams but I'd argue the dubs are unique in the effort you have to spend to defend them versus what you can get in the half court. The C's are just as unselfish and willing to run but just don't have the bench depth.
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maybe the Celtics could have had a chance if they didn't give up 35 unforced turnovers per gameTDepressionEarl posted:Correct may never be an All-Star because Ja Morant, LaMelo Ball, and Karl Anthony-Towns may crowd out him out of the young squad; but I personally maintain Jamal Murray was worthy of an All-Star slot over Ben Simmons in 2021 before he got injured. I expect Maxey and Murray to be more valuable in 2022-23 than Harden and Simmons, both of whom the All-Star guard dig was directed at. ah, gotcha. and yeah I was blind to it then, but Simmons' only real argument for the All-Star team that year was his defense.
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Stevie Lee posted:who's the All-Star guard the nuggets are adding? Jamal Murray has never been and probably never will be an all-star if that's who you mean Jamal has way better playoff statistics. His defensive stats are double Maxey's as well. Murray is definitely an all star but the guard spots are pretty crowded in the West.
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If he can come back 100 percent I'm pretty sure Murray will average 30ppg in one of the next 4 seasons.
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LastInLine posted:Honestly I think it's just that. The C's play intense defense that normally generated a lot of their points but against a high motion team that makes defense more tiring and against a defense almost as good as their own in the half court they just ran out of weapons when their bench couldn't do anything. I could see this argument -- specifically, in the last two games, if you watched them play they looked exhausted. Done. Sleepy. I figured that their almost-as-long-as-possible playoffs and stuff like Rob's knee and Tatum's shoulder were the main reasons, but the bench underperforming and forcing more minutes onto the starters was probably just as big a culprit
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