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Magmarashi posted:It's funny you ask that cause I know a fair amount of programmers that responded to me telling them this with "Yeah, things being unintentionally load-bearing Just Happens Sometimes" As a programmer, this xkdc comic to me is evergreen https://xkcd.com/2030/
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Also: https://xkcd.com/2347/
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I fixed a typo about 3 weeks ago that broke every production site (about 500) and almost grounded a few hundred planes. Coding is fun.
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I'm not even on the coding side of software and this one resonates, goddamn.
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Activision-Blizzard has no systemic issues with harassment, discrimination, hostile corporate culture, or other issues, says Activision-Blizzard investigation.
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Cythereal posted:Activision-Blizzard has no systemic issues with harassment, discrimination, hostile corporate culture, or other issues, says Activision-Blizzard investigation. Case closed! Now where are we going for lunch?
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The company infamous for covering up their harassment and misconduct reports on itself that there is no harassment or misconduct? Well gosh, I don't know why I was worried.
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Cythereal posted:Activision-Blizzard has no systemic issues with harassment, discrimination, hostile corporate culture, or other issues, says Activision-Blizzard investigation. "We found no problem with harassment just like our boss ordered. And besides, don't those dames know a smack on the bum or a squeeze of the tit is meant as a compliment? These broads just need to loosen up, ifyaknowwhatImean". -the people who did the report, probably. I'm guessing we can't just chemically castrate all the men at Activision Blizzard? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Randalor posted:I'm guessing we can't just chemically castrate all the men at Activision Blizzard? Sort out victims from predators first. It gets overlooked a lot, but there's been a substantial number of male victims involved in the investigations and lawsuits who had been targeted by older men at the company.
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Cythereal posted:Sort out victims from predators first. That is fair. Has there ever been a time where a company investigated itself and DIDN'T say "Nope everything is fine/we have some issues that we need to work out, but nothing BIG"?
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Randalor posted:That is fair. Has there ever been a time where a company investigated itself and DIDN'T say "Nope everything is fine/we have some issues that we need to work out, but nothing BIG"? It has likely happened before, but generally requires the Executive level both caring and not being involved in the actual bad actions. Neither of which are happening here.
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Randalor posted:That is fair. Has there ever been a time where a company investigated itself and DIDN'T say "Nope everything is fine/we have some issues that we need to work out, but nothing BIG"? On issues affecting employees (such as sexual harassment)? Not that I can think of. The only times I can think of this happening are when companies took massive risks, shareholders took notice, and employees got hung out to dry because the companies wanted to avoid federal investigation.
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Jun 16, 2022 20:41
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https://twitter.com/PatStaresAt/status/1537514694432288768 Outrage over finding ourselves innocent? HEY LOOK EVERYONE OVERWATCH 2 BETA COME LOVE US AGAIN
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Jun 16, 2022 20:45
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I'm sure this plan would work if anyone still cared about Overwatch
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Gotta overwatch your back if you're working for ActiBlizz.
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Randalor posted:I'm guessing we can't just chemically castrate all the men at Activision Blizzard? This kind of comment is not acceptable in this thread. I understand where the sentiment comes from, but please refrain from saying things like this in the future.
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Randalor posted:That is fair. Has there ever been a time where a company investigated itself and DIDN'T say "Nope everything is fine/we have some issues that we need to work out, but nothing BIG"? Paradox Interactive actually had a third party go in and investigate them and make a ton of changes/recommendations for changes to prevent lovely work environments after an employee survey. Turns out being based in a country with unions and being unionized helps a lot! It even helps the company because it's a lot easier to believe that they changed after that.
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Randalor posted:
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Zeron posted:Paradox Interactive actually had a third party go in and investigate them and make a ton of changes/recommendations for changes to prevent lovely work environments after an employee survey. Turns out being based in a country with unions and being unionized helps a lot! It even helps the company because it's a lot easier to believe that they changed after that. The bolded part is 1000% true, but in most cases companies would rather dig in their heels, sink into hell, and go bankrupt than ever hold a highly placed sex pest accountable for anything. Blizzard in particular has so much built up nostalgia and good will from such a large number of people that if they appeared to be making even the slightest believable effort to clean house I'm absolutely positive huge amounts of people would fall all over themselves to go "see, Blizzard is good again!". But instead we get "We've investigated ourselves and found that we did nothing wrong!"
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Maybe some would, but I genuinely think they more than exhausted that well of goodwill a while ago for most people. The illusion is gone.
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MikeJF posted:Maybe some would, but I genuinely think they more than exhausted that well of goodwill a while ago for most people. The illusion is gone. There are still a whole lot of people who are still playing WoW and HotS and Overwatch and Diablo for various reasons - and please note that I'm not casting shade on those people, just stating facts - who I'm sure would be extremely glad to go "thank god, they're fixing things" and breathe a sigh of relief.
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Also it seems like they're too busy doing sexual harassment/being sexually harassed and going on office drinking binges to actually make any goddamn games.
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Cythereal posted:Activision-Blizzard has no systemic issues with harassment, discrimination, hostile corporate culture, or other issues, says Activision-Blizzard investigation. https://twitter.com/imranzomg/status/1537807893319122945
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It's always a grift. Edit: on second thought, forget it. Dick Burglar fucked around with this message at 18:09 on Jun 17, 2022 |
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Is A-B trying to just push through the social media wave of #metoo and pretending it doesn't exist? I can't see their game sales ever taking a hit over this behavior and the kind of people who would believe those statements are also the same kinds of people who would laugh at the accusations and say the victims deserved it. Diablo Immortal is going to make Fortnite money for them so it seems like management culture is basically bulletproof at this point.
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a lot of "settlements" and "investigations" of this type are pure investor level stuff that never affects people on the employee/customer side of things lyft just settled a case over their inability to handle [tw] sexual assault in their cars and awarded $25m ... to investors
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pentyne posted:Diablo Immortal is going to make Fortnite money for them so it seems like management culture is basically bulletproof at this point. Immortal is making good money, but nowhere the realm of fortnite/pubg money and blizzard historically is poo poo at updating their games compared to other live services. According to news, it made 24 million dollars in two weeks which is fine for a big IP, but not amazing. Pokemon Masters, a side B-tier mobage made 26 million in a week. Genshin Impact made 60 million in its first week. And unlike most mobile games, Immortal has multiple news articles and video made every single day criticizing the blunt and aggressive microtransactions which is more likely that DImmortal might have already hit its peak revenue.
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There's a significant level of very public backlash toward Diablo Immortal's monetization, so I'm less interested in how much it made initially than how it trends from here going forward. Will that backlash actually meaningfully impact their income, or will it be a whole bunch of noise that paying customers are willing to tune out? Obviously the trending will need to be compared to other similar games. I assume the first week gets a big spike in income and it tapers off from there, so the degree of the taper would be what I'd be wanting to consider. A "normal" taper downward wouldn't be indicative of anything, but a steep fall-off would. If my assumption of how mobile gaming income works is wrong, then obviously adjust accordingly. Dick Burglar fucked around with this message at 19:28 on Jun 17, 2022 |
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ActiBlizz's issues have already affected their bottom line. There's loads of people who won't give them money any more because of all the recent poo poo. Whether they've flattened down to their core audience who will stick with them whatever or not is debateable but they could definitely be making more than they do at the moment
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It doesn't help that they're so sluggish and dysfunctional they can barely get actual games out the door and there's a marked quality nosedive from their golden era of the games people actually care about. There's rusted-on defenders, sure, but everyone has those.
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Kanos posted:The bolded part is 1000% true, but in most cases companies would rather dig in their heels, sink into hell, and go bankrupt than ever hold a highly placed sex pest accountable for anything. they burned their goodwill doing nothing with their property and stuff, the blitzchung fiasco, no phone diablo and other assorted bullshit.
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Tankbuster posted:they burned their goodwill doing nothing with their property and stuff, the blitzchung fiasco, no phone diablo and other assorted bullshit. Sorta incredible how blitzchung and no phones have become the very least of their problems compared to all the poo poo they've pulled since. Like one of those cartoon gags with a garden full of rakes, only each rake is larger than the last.
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If wc3 reforged wasn’t the final straw for some people I don’t think anything will be
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BisbyWorl posted:Sorta incredible how blitzchung and no phones have become the very least of their problems compared to all the poo poo they've pulled since. same people who were the ones laughing at or booing people for bringing up sexism etc at blizzcon ofc many of them have already started going back to being alt-right wokescolds naturally gamers, man
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Tankbuster posted:they burned their goodwill doing nothing with their property and stuff, the blitzchung fiasco, no phone diablo and other assorted bullshit. For a lot of people, that's absolutely true. My point made in a later post was that the "this is the last straw" good will threshold is different for different people, based on the fact that there are still millions of people playing their games and a lot of people still got excited about Diablo 4 information despite everything that has happened.
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a lot of people also don't give a poo poo about video game news. the reason companies buy ads on tv, in other games, etc. is so that people know about their games even if they aren't reading videogame-specific media
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I just recently talked to a "normie" person that regularly watches DC movies that had no idea about wanted criminal Ezra Miller. We live in a bubble.
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and i am a turbonerd that doesn't watch super hero stuff, and this is the first time i've heard the name "ezra miller" so many overlapping bubbles
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