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Palladium posted:lifetime warranty? Depends how you define the product lifetime
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Palladium posted:lifetime warranty? VisionTek is still in business though?
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yeah often lifetime warranty is like 2 years in computers because poo poo gets deprecated real often
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MSI cut their 3060 and 3070 Ventus prices on newegg a bit today. It's nothing amazing, but they're now about $20 cheaper than the old normal ($380 and $580 respectively for the dual-fan models). Though Asus' GPU+PSU bundles remain the best deals for the 3060 and 3060 Ti if you need a new PSU too. Nothing noteworthy for the 3080, but I'm feeling some bigger price drops coming soon. (fake edit: Actually, the Ventus 3X 12GB is $770 after a coupon code and rebate now, but hopefully we'll get something even better.) If you still want to whale out this late in the generation, Gigabyte's 3090 Ti is $1650. Best Buy had some online FE drops recently that were apparently quite easy to get if you were paying attention. It seems there's no real bot competition anymore since the ebay price for these cards have gotten too low to make scalping worthwhile, and miners aren't hoovering up GPUs anymore.
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:Best Buy had some online FE drops recently that were apparently quite easy to get if you were paying attention. It seems there's no real bot competition anymore since the ebay price for these cards have gotten too low to make scalping worthwhile, and miners aren't hoovering up GPUs anymore. Are these predictable in any way- any particular day/time?
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Listerine posted:Are these predictable in any way- any particular day/time? Not that I know of. I just saw mention of it happening in a discord channel i'm in
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The R9 390 in the rig I built in ~2016 died a while back and I've just abandoned PC gaming for a while due to GPU prices. Is there anything in the $3-400 range available now that I could drop in without needing to upgrade my power supply or anything that could run most modern stuff at 3440x1440?
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rockear posted:The R9 390 in the rig I built in ~2016 died a while back and I've just abandoned PC gaming for a while due to GPU prices. Is there anything in the $3-400 range available now that I could drop in without needing to upgrade my power supply or anything that could run most modern stuff at 3440x1440? Either a second-hand 3060 Ti (which I believe can be had for around $400 now) or a new 6600 XT ($360 for the next 8 hours). The 3060 Ti will be better by about 10%, and it supports DLSS, which is a proprietary upscaling technique by nvidia that produces near- or better-than-native image quality. AMD introduced their own upscaling technique to compete with Nvidia's ("FSR 2.0"), but it hasn't gained widespread adoption yet. Both cards are over twice as fast as the 390, but upscaling will likely still be important if you want to maintain good image quality in modern PC games at 3440x1440.
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:Either a second-hand 3060 Ti (which I believe can be had for around $400 now) or a new 6600 XT ($360 for the next 8 hours). Awesome I will look at both of those, thanks. Do I need to worry that my motherboard is only PCIE 3 x16 or is that irrelevant?
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rockear posted:Awesome I will look at both of those, thanks. Do I need to worry that my motherboard is only PCIE 3 x16 or is that irrelevant? The 6600 XT has only 8 PCIe lanes unlike most GPUs, which is something I honestly forgot. Still, even at PCIe 3.0, this isn't really a major problem according to this TechPowerUp benchmark. Even at 4K, it's not really struggling. Though I can't promise that there won't be any oddball scenarios where a game really doesn't like having so little PCIe bandwidth (Hardware Unboxed found that a specific setting with no visual impact in Doom Eternal causes the frame rate to tank 25% when the 6600 XT is in a PCIe 3.0 slot, for example) I would still consider the 6600 XT a viable option, but if you can find a 3060 Ti for around $400, I'd go with that.
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:but if you can find a 3060 Ti for around $400, I'd go with that. Yeah I agree with this. It might take some time but I feel like it's the better option right now overall.
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Okay that is great info thanks. I googled PCIE 3 vs 4 a bit and was sort of lost on whether it mattered. Doom Eternal is on my Steam backlog so that makes the choice pretty easy. I can probably stretch my budget a bit as well, so that should make finding a 3060ti a bit easier.
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:The 6600 XT has only 8 PCIe lanes unlike most GPUs, which is something I honestly forgot. Still, even at PCIe 3.0, this isn't really a major problem according to this TechPowerUp benchmark. Even at 4K, it's not really struggling. Though I can't promise that there won't be any oddball scenarios where a game really doesn't like having so little PCIe bandwidth (Hardware Unboxed found that a specific setting with no visual impact in Doom Eternal causes the frame rate to tank 25% when the 6600 XT is in a PCIe 3.0 slot, for example) This is something I've been wondering about. It seems like, at least on my asrock taichi x570 and a 5900x, there is no way to have a gpu at 16x with other pcie devices, add any other pcie device and it splits it giving the gpu 8x. Is this going to matter in any major way for other gpus? I have a 2070s, and will hopefully get a 4080 or whatever when those come out, but I need a couple other pcie cards in there and I'm not sure how big of an impact that makes.
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the GPU PCIe slot will be 16x, unless it's some crazy anomaly board
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The slot is almost always 16x, and will use all those lanes unless you specifically jigger with the board to split the lanes (usually with an m.2 SSD) It's the cards that are the problem if they're not wired to use all 16 lanes (when they could actually make use of it) That said, even 8x is usually okay under most circumstances - it's really the 6500XT and 6400XT that stand out as being starved of lanes under PCIE 3
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BrainDance posted:This is something I've been wondering about. It seems like, at least on my asrock taichi x570 and a 5900x, there is no way to have a gpu at 16x with other pcie devices, add any other pcie device and it splits it giving the gpu 8x. Is this going to matter in any major way for other gpus? This is very unlikely to matter, though I have to say that I'm rather confused by the way they've designed this board. Looking at the manual, it seems like it's either x16/x0/x0, x8/x8/x0, or x8/x8/x4 as the available configurations for your full-length slots. If they can get that extra x4 in that final configuration, what's stopping them from doing an x16/x4 configuration? Weird. In any case, x8 will almost certainly be enough bandwidth for the 2070, and x8 4.0 should be enough for a 4080 (it is for a 3090) edit: Also, I'm pretty sure using the 2nd and 4th slots won't limit the first slot's bandwidth. Dr. Video Games 0031 fucked around with this message at 02:08 on Jun 20, 2022 |
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gradenko_2000 posted:
since lanes scale linearly (a gen 2 1x lane is the same bandwidth as two gen 1 1x lanes, a 2x gen 3 lane is the same as a 1x gen 4, etc) the 6600 in a gen 3 system has the same amount of lanes as a 6500 has in a gen 4 system. bottlenecks in some esoteric situations for both.
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:edit: Also, I'm pretty sure using the 2nd and 4th slots won't limit the first slot's bandwidth. That would definitely solve this problem if there wasnt a gpu in the way blocking the 2nd slot :/ I have a pcie ethernet card and a pcie usb3>fiber card. Both could go in that 2nd slot and ones already in the 4th but, yeah, gpu edit: looking at it closer nevermind it might actually fit, gonna be tight though Double edit: It worked, thank you very much Dr. Video Games BrainDance fucked around with this message at 02:34 on Jun 20, 2022 |
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Good luck finding a 4080 that's as thin as your 2070, though. I feel like the X570 Taichi was built entirely for double/triple GPU setups just as those were going away, and now it has a wonky PCIe configuration for anything else.
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sir I believe you will find the 4080 is TWICE as powerful as 3080 and the size of a playing card at the same price
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Alan Smithee posted:sir maybe sucks down twice the power.
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Alan Smithee posted:sir The playing card: 
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https://twitter.com/hitstreak/status/1538276653876424704?t=oEntUKvvmDNYjDg39oRmMQ&s=19 Laughing at how wild this would have seemed months ago
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Harlock posted:https://twitter.com/hitstreak/status/1538276653876424704?t=oEntUKvvmDNYjDg39oRmMQ&s=19 lol at those prices though. they really can't move these things at all at those prices, huh?
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It's the $650 3060 Tis that kill me. Especially now that Newegg finally has stock available for around $500. edit: Actually is that the Asus 3070 for $650? It's hard to tell. (it is, nvm) Speaking of Newegg though, the Gigabyte 3080 10GB has crept down another $10 to $760: https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-3080-gv-n3080gaming-oc-10gd/p/N82E16814932459?Item=N82E16814932459&quicklink=true MSI's 12GB Ventus 3X model is still available for $770 after rebates: https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-rtx-3080-rtx-3080-ventus-3x-plus-12g-oc-lhr/p/N82E16814137712?Item=N82E16814137712 Dr. Video Games 0031 fucked around with this message at 19:42 on Jun 20, 2022 |
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Harlock posted:https://twitter.com/hitstreak/status/1538276653876424704?t=oEntUKvvmDNYjDg39oRmMQ&s=19 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myJDBos5Vyw
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The price collapse stuff is becoming very, very real in Los Angeles. I just grabbed a 3080 founders with a receipt and box for $600. Definitely a miners card since after the sale he asked me if I wanted to buy more of them. (which, if any local goon wants the info please lemme know. Card seems fine after 24hrs of usage)
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nerdrum posted:The price collapse stuff is becoming very, very real in Los Angeles. I just grabbed a 3080 founders with a receipt and box for $600. Definitely a miners card since after the sale he asked me if I wanted to buy more of them. (which, if any local goon wants the info please lemme know. Card seems fine after 24hrs of usage) Hell yeah! That’s good news.
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i wonder what the second-hand market is like in texas right now. there must be a ton of miners down there wanting to offload GPUs. I can tell you that Detroit's local gpu market isn't exactly taking off.
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:MSI's 12GB Ventus 3X model is still available for $770 after rebates: https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-rtx-3080-rtx-3080-ventus-3x-plus-12g-oc-lhr/p/N82E16814137712?Item=N82E16814137712 This has been $870 for me since yesterday. If I had to choose between this and the equivalent gigabyte card, which is the least worst?
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Freakazoid_ posted:This has been $870 for me since yesterday. "+ $100 off w/ promo code VGAMSJZ272, limited offer" Should take it down to $770. I think both cards will be too similar to really tell a difference. MSI's customer support will be less bad. edit: i assumed we were talking about two 12-gig models here, but if you mean the 10gb gigabyte card, then yeah, the MSI one is going to be a bit more powerful. Dr. Video Games 0031 fucked around with this message at 16:26 on Jun 21, 2022 |
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My MSI Ventus 3080 12GB has above-average 3Dmarks in all the tests despite being power limited, that's cool I guess. It is a bit louder at full fan speed than my old Asus Tuf Gaming 3070Ti, however it is much less likely to be at 100% fan speed than that card was while performing better. Undervolting owns.
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Freakazoid_ posted:This has been $870 for me since yesterday. The linked Gigabyte is 10GB, mind. That'll be around 8% slower or so than the 12GB MSI model which is closet to a 3080ti.
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Gigabyte just discounted some of their 30-series GPUs on Newegg via coupon codes: 3060 Ti for $480: https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-3060-ti-gv-n306teagle-oc-8gd/p/N82E16814932455?Item=N82E16814932455 3070 for $550: https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-3070-gv-n3070gaming-oc-8gd/p/N82E16814932449?Item=N82E16814932449&quicklink=true 3070 Ti for $670: https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-3070-ti-gv-n307tgaming-oc-8g/p/N82E16814932443?Item=N82E16814932443&quicklink=true $550 is the cheapest I've ever seen an AIB 3070, not bad.
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The tide has def turned. Founder's editions are staying in stock in the UK rather than selling out in seconds. No 3060Ti's right now, but you can get a 3070 for £469 from Scan.
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Thats a really good price for a 3070. Come on firesales for 3080s
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it dont matter posted:The tide has def turned. Founder's editions are staying in stock in the UK rather than selling out in seconds. No 3060Ti's right now, but you can get a 3070 for £469 from Scan. No such luck in the US, though I'm seeing some backroom stock FEs at a few local stores with just a casual glance at the Best Buy app. Those are technically not in stock, but you can request the SKU numbers and they'll probably sell them to you.
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