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FrostyPox posted:So far I think 12 might be my favorite single-player FF game, but consider I've only played 13 and 15 previously. I liked 13 and 15 well enough but I’m also pretty comfortable saying they’re probably among the worst FF single player games FF7 Remake is action RPGish and modern, if you can stand ps2 game remakes like FF12 FFX is also definitely worth playing
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:I liked 13 and 15 well enough but I’m also pretty comfortable saying they’re probably among the worst FF single player games
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Jun 18, 2022 21:13
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FrostyPox posted:Ayyyy I'm in Fanow but not Fanow and there's no LAHEE They rip a bunch of FF12/FFTA names in XIV for Viera stuff, it's cool. Some tribes of XIV Viera are from Golmore in Othard, and a lot of the auto-generate surnames for female Viera are stuff like Eruyt, Camoa, Muscadet, etc.
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Jun 18, 2022 21:18
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it's hard for me to imagine what it would be like going through Final Fantasy games backwards like that. Like in so many ways, each iteration felt like a development on past games. The grittiness of 6 leads straight into the peak-90s grunge of 7. The cool, modern take of 7, its tragic romance subplot, and cool rival swordsman lead directly into 8. The teen romance angle of 8, along with feeling like the modern aesthetics were stifling, leads into 9. The emphasis on a female summoner deuteragonist and even more emphasis on teen romance leads to 10. 12 felt like a hard veer away from teen drama to a more understated and detached political story, using FFT and FF11 as some inspiration points, but it didn't quite stick the landing or was reaching further than it could grasp. Then 13 felt like it massively oversteered back toward story-driven character drama, to the point that it was incredibly linear and full of long cutscenes and amazing graphics and stylish character designs, but the storytelling was kind of overwhelming, incomprehensible, and insane. And 15 was a weird mess of a game with some charming redeeming qualities, very much the results of the karma of the weird FF13 fabula nova project. Like I think 12, 13, and 15 are very much flawed games (flawed gems if you're generous; I think 12 and to some degree 15 are gems at least). But FF4-FF10 are all really solid games, ranging from very good to masterful. Chillgamesh posted:They rip a bunch of FF12/FFTA names in XIV for Viera stuff, it's cool. Some tribes of XIV Viera are from Golmore in Othard, and a lot of the auto-generate surnames for female Viera are stuff like Eruyt, Camoa, Muscadet, etc. I was so happy when I saw Clan Nutsy come up in Shadowbringers  It's just one of those combinations of two words that is so unlikely it never leaves you
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God damnit you all are going to make me pick my Zodiac Age game back up.
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Jun 18, 2022 21:25
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Honestly the only reason I'm going backward is cuz 15 requires 100GB of hard drive space so I wanted to play it and get it out of the way since I have tons of poo poo on my computer and I don't feel like going through it to free up space. So since I started with 15, I figured "Let's go backward"  Since I liked 13 more than 15 and 12 more than 13, logic and pattern dictate that FF1 is the absolute best. We'll see if that theory holds (I am positive it won't).
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FrostyPox posted:Honestly the only reason I'm going backward is cuz 15 requires 100GB of hard drive space so I wanted to play it and get it out of the way since I have tons of poo poo on my computer and I don't feel like going through it to free up space. So since I started with 15, I figured "Let's go backward" X is the best out of the voice acted ones so it'll go to at least there.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btpvEk4Epi0 The Salikawood is one of my favorite XII areas and musical themes. I kinda hope XIV spends some more time in Viera/Hrothgar territory in the future, just for the off chance the Salikawood gets included iirc, the last of the Stormblood alliance raids takes place in Golmore Jungle, so it's not totally impossible
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Jun 18, 2022 21:45
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Ivalice does canonically exist on Hydaelyn so it very well could. I would also like to see more of Ilsabard and the areas around Garlemald. And all the things mentioned at the end of Endwalker. And the other extant Reflections. Really, give me loving everything in the FFXIV universe. Inject it into my veins.
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One thing I love is that for the most part all the references and nods in XIV have their own history within Eorzea it's not just "hey remember this place from XII?"
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The FFXIV world has its own version of Ivalice (like it has its own version of Doma, a reference to FFVI) but it's definitely not the same Ivalice. They're pretty different when you actually compare the geography and history, not to mention FFXIV's Ivalice slams together places and plots from FFXII and FF Tactics all together. It's really well done, they did a great job making something that closely resembles FFXII/FFT arise naturally out of FFXIV's in-universe history. It'd be pretty great to get an FFXIV version of the Salikawood, though.
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Electric Phantasm posted:One thing I love is that for the most part all the references and nods in XIV have their own history within Eorzea it's not just "hey remember this place from XII?" Yeah, as someone who hadn't played any FF games prior to FFXIV, I never once felt like "What the gently caress, where did that come from and why is it here?". They manage to incorporate everything in a way that makes the reference feel like a natural part of XIV. I don't know what Eden and the Void Ark are from, and I didn't know Kefka and Exdeath were from earlier games, but when all those things popped up in FFXIV I was like "Oh cool, this is badass and it all makes sense". I loved the Ivalice raids and I didn't know a goddamned thing about FFT or FFXII at the time. EDIT: Even the Neir raids don't seem out of place. FrostyPox fucked around with this message at 22:01 on Jun 18, 2022 |
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Yeah, FFXIV has a metric shitload of references but with like 1 exception (Omega's recreations) they're all integrated naturally into the world.
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ImpAtom posted:Yeah, FFXIV has a metric shitload of references but with like 1 exception (Omega's recreations) they're all integrated naturally into the world. Even those are too. The ff5 stuff is pulled from an old fairy tale in universe and the 6 references are pulled from a stage play because Omega doesn't really have Creativity so he finds some stories about Heroes doing Heroic Things to get a better read on why you can do bullshit.
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Even those are too. The ff5 stuff is pulled from an old fairy tale in universe and the 6 references are pulled from a stage play because Omega doesn't really have Creativity so he finds some stories about Heroes doing Heroic Things to get a better read on why you can do bullshit. Oh I know, but in those cases they're both like "here is the exact enemy from FF5/6 in the exact location you fight them in the game and even sprites directly from FF6 in one case" as opposed to them being actual places in the world. I don't mind it at all but it's more of a thin justification than something naturally integrated.
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It's still good because the writers poke fun at the idea through Nero "From what I have been able to gather, your opponent is, and I quote, “a great tree born of an agglomeration of evil will, which assumes the form of a dark mage.” All of which I suggest you ignore."
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I asked this just before the FF7R stuff got announced so it got buried, so asking again, hope thats okay.Zil posted:Is there a mod that makes the controls for XII on PC not, well, crap? That is the only that has been preventing me from getting into it. I really want to enjoy the game, but something about the controls just don't click with me, not sure why.
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I kinda really want to see FFXIV fully embrace FFTA and FFTA-2 for a bit. The childlike wonder and whimsy of those games' aesthetics is really great. A full Alliance Raid questline devoted to FF13 would be wild, too. /say meow meow chocochow
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I'm finding the PC controls for XII to be just fine. My XBox controller didn't work at all with it, and I don't know why. I'd probably prefer to use the controller if it worked. EDIT: I would like to fight Orphan in FFXIV
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I want them to fix the Drakengard setting through FF14 tbh
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Gologle posted:I want them to fix the Drakengard setting through FF14 tbh The only "fixing" that world needs is cleansing Dragonfire. Literal scorched earth.
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Need to grind a bit more to beat Tiamat but Larsa parried her fire breath three times like an absolute gigachad EDIT: actually probably don't need to grind, need to spend all these LP, whoops! EDIT: or I could stop being a dum dum and summon Belias, that works. FrostyPox fucked around with this message at 01:55 on Jun 19, 2022 |
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watching stranger of paradise’s credits god help us, My Way really was a perfect fit for this game
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https://store.na.square-enix-games.com/en_US/product/477952/mobius-final-fantasy-artbook-first-anniversary-collections-import-book I didn't know this existed until five minutes ago. I now own said book.
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FrostyPox posted:Yeah, as someone who hadn't played any FF games prior to FFXIV, I never once felt like "What the gently caress, where did that come from and why is it here?". They manage to incorporate everything in a way that makes the reference feel like a natural part of XIV. I don't know what Eden and the Void Ark are from, and I didn't know Kefka and Exdeath were from earlier games, but when all those things popped up in FFXIV I was like "Oh cool, this is badass and it all makes sense". I loved the Ivalice raids and I didn't know a goddamned thing about FFT or FFXII at the time. Eden is from FF8 and I think the Void Ark is wholly original although the Sky Pirates resemble some stuff from both X and XII, also Cait Sith is a character in 7 (the 14 version is WILDLY different tho) Senator Drinksalot fucked around with this message at 03:33 on Jun 19, 2022 |
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Jun 19, 2022 03:29
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strange of paradise is GOTY
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In a year where American Theft 80's came out? Don't think so
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Senator Drinksalot posted:Eden is from FF8 and I think the Void Ark is wholly original although the Sky Pirates resemble some stuff from both X and XII, also Cait Sith is a character in 7 (the 14 version is WILDLY different tho) They use Cait Sith's 11 design.
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Senator Drinksalot posted:Eden is from FF8 and I think the Void Ark is wholly original although the Sky Pirates resemble some stuff from both X and XII, also Cait Sith is a character in 7 (the 14 version is WILDLY different tho) The closest thing to a previous reference I could find with the Void Ark is that it might be based on a 'Death Airship' designed for FFV. It's hard to say for certain since we never get a full look at the Void Ark, but they seem to carry more resemblance than just the general vibe. At the very least they've both got what I can best describe as 'ribcage hull'. Cleretic fucked around with this message at 03:49 on Jun 19, 2022 |
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:strange of paradise is GOTY Steam release of FF7R, FF6PR
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Cephas posted:I kinda really want to see FFXIV fully embrace FFTA and FFTA-2 for a bit. The childlike wonder and whimsy of those games' aesthetics is really great. FFTA2 themed raid where one of the bosses is just a Trickster spamming Ultima and a Red Mage spamming summons
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SoP is the second-best FF game released this year, after Crystal Project.
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SoP absolutely nailed everything but the janky rear end models with a bajillion polygons or whatever per strand of hair.
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Mustached Demon posted:SoP absolutely nailed everything but the janky rear end models with a bajillion polygons or whatever per strand of hair. I dont understand what went wrong with this because Nioh and 2 were amazing even on base consoles. 60 fps, short load times and it's not like they were bad looking games because art style did a lot of the heavy lifting
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Mustached Demon posted:SoP absolutely nailed everything but the janky rear end models with a bajillion polygons or whatever per strand of hair. That’s the most final fantasy part of the game actually. Some powerful “over-designed rocks from FFXV” energy
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WaltherFeng posted:I dont understand what went wrong with this because Nioh and 2 were amazing even on base consoles. 60 fps, short load times and it's not like they were bad looking games because art style did a lot of the heavy lifting With Chinese Nioh being scheduled for next year I imagine Team Ninja didn't have that much time or manpower for this game. Just finished SoP yesterday and liked everything except for the garbage loot system.
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WaltherFeng posted:I dont understand what went wrong with this because Nioh and 2 were amazing even on base consoles. 60 fps, short load times and it's not like they were bad looking games because art style did a lot of the heavy lifting jokes posted:That’s the most final fantasy part of the game actually. Some powerful “over-designed rocks from FFXV” energy Yeah, I'm thinking that wasn't a problem with the Team Ninja side of things. Say what you will about Koei-Tecmo, they can make an action game that runs smooth as butter. So the fact that they didn't makes me think the people responsible for over-detailed models were probably the ones in the room that have committed exactly that mistake before.
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Whoa rogue post was here
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I wanna play SOP but I also feel like it’s definitely the type of game that ends up either on gamepass or $10 in a sale and I have so much stuff to finish in the meantime
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KonvexKonkav posted:Just finished SoP yesterday and liked everything except for the garbage loot system. The game is so good except for the loot, which is just unbelievably bad. I like Diablo-likes, so I have a high tolerance for explosions of trash items dropping all the time with dozens of seemingly meaningless affixes, but SoP’s loot system is simply awful even for diablo-like loot. It’s kind of amazing how bad it is.
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