|
 Hahhaahahahaha
|
#
?
Jun 19, 2022 16:12
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 23, 2024 06:18 |
|
|
OhFunny posted:
That's a good parody I've gotta admit
|
|
#
?
Jun 19, 2022 16:16
|
|
|
In Training posted:The Goldwater campaign being so Trumpy was pretty remarkable to me too, all the conservative kitsch branding coupled with Barry just saying absolutely insane things whenever national media gave him a mic, like we should nuke Vietnam so all the trees die and the Vietcong cant hide anymore. Some things never change Yea. And stuff like how the Reagan book brings up conservatives shouting about how movies and tv are pushing a gay and/or pornographic agenda. Really shows how often this poo poo repeats itself!
|
|
#
?
Jun 19, 2022 16:20
|
|
|
i guess intentionally losing horribly to the fascist party and pretending the whole time that you're doing your best is at least more subtle than what Hindenburg and the germans did
|
|
#
?
Jun 19, 2022 17:12
|
|
|
In Training posted:if you wanna read 1500 pages answering this question I would recommend the Rick perlstein books on Barry Goldwater Nixon and Reagan . They own yeah these particular 1500 pages get you an understanding of America similar to how reading Capital gets you an understanding of economics, they’re fundamental
|
|
#
?
Jun 19, 2022 17:18
|
|
|
In Training posted:The Goldwater campaign being so Trumpy was pretty remarkable to me too, all the conservative kitsch branding coupled with Barry just saying absolutely insane things whenever national media gave him a mic, like we should nuke Vietnam so all the trees die and the Vietcong cant hide anymore. Some things never change The US ran thousands of missions trying to both poison the jungle so it would die and seed the clouds above the jungle so it would rain more and be harder to travel the Ho Chi Minh trail. The nuke is not insane or far fetched at all, they already did about everything you can short of a nuke. Strategic bombing wasn't all that effective in WW2, so naturally they decided to double down on the strategic bombing. It was even less effective and a bigger waste of resources in Vietnam.
|
|
#
?
Jun 19, 2022 17:18
|
|
|
OhFunny posted:
Someone photoshop it to Gerald Ford tumbling down the stairwell - thanks!
|
|
#
?
Jun 19, 2022 17:20
|
|
|
Gunshow Poophole posted:yeah these particular 1500 pages get you an understanding of America similar to how reading Capital gets you an understanding of economics, they’re fundamental couples nicely with Prisoners of the American Dream I think. Very foundational overview of recent history that will correct basically every misconception enforced through the schooling system
|
|
#
?
Jun 19, 2022 17:21
|
|
|
Pryor on Fire posted:
not entirely true, they successfully killed millions of civilians while avoiding any of the nasty backlash that usually provokes when you have your soldiers do it on the ground. a nice neat genocide
|
|
#
?
Jun 19, 2022 17:26
|
|
|
AOC getting outmaneuvered on gaming when she's the Twitch politician by Ted loving Cruz is glorious. He's in the process of organising a discussion with one of the largest streamers to talk through pay to win in videogames and what the government can do to help poor abused gamers. It's so loving easy but the Dems are in deep with the NSA and CIA plants at the games studios and don't want to get them offside lol.
|
|
#
?
Jun 19, 2022 19:30
|
|
|
cagliostr0 posted:AOC getting outmaneuvered on gaming when she's the Twitch politician by Ted loving Cruz is glorious. He's in the process of organising a discussion with one of the largest streamers to talk through pay to win in videogames and what the government can do to help poor abused gamers. It's so loving easy but the Dems are in deep with the NSA and CIA plants at the games studios and don't want to get them offside lol. the party of, by and for corporate lawyers has less connection to the common man than the party of car dealership owners
|
|
#
?
Jun 19, 2022 19:34
|
|
|
Pryor on Fire posted:Strategic bombing wasn't all that effective in WW2, so naturally they decided to double down on the strategic bombing. It was even less effective and a bigger waste of resources in Vietnam. by the end of ww2 they were kinda starting to figure out you had to target rail yards and other giant targets where bombs are guaranteed to do damage wherever they fall and gently caress up production of basically everything, but yeah most of the war was just dumping bombs in the general vicinity of factories. of course there's literally none of this in vietnam since you're fighting against guerillas and other small, dispersed and highly mobile forces that don't rely on massive industrial production, so uh, yeah the bitcoin of weed posted:not entirely true, they successfully killed millions of civilians while avoiding any of the nasty backlash that usually provokes when you have your soldiers do it on the ground. a nice neat genocide also this
|
|
#
?
Jun 19, 2022 19:39
|
|
|
cagliostr0 posted:AOC getting outmaneuvered on gaming when she's the Twitch politician by Ted loving Cruz is glorious. He's in the process of organising a discussion with one of the largest streamers to talk through pay to win in videogames and what the government can do to help poor abused gamers. It's so loving easy but the Dems are in deep with the NSA and CIA plants at the games studios and don't want to get them offside lol. twitch is the perfect platform for Dems to get a message, any kind of message out, and I think she’s used it…once? lol
|
|
#
?
Jun 19, 2022 20:05
|
|
|
Demon Of The Fall posted:twitch is the perfect platform for Dems to get a message, any kind of message out, and I think she’s used it…once? lol What's even better is Cruz is doing the sit down with a guy who refers to him as lying Ted to the degree that it's a catchphrase in his chat. Republicans will eat huge piles of poo poo to win
|
|
#
?
Jun 19, 2022 20:12
|
|
|
cagliostr0 posted:What's even better is Cruz is doing the sit down with a guy who refers to him as lying Ted to the degree that it's a catchphrase in his chat. Republicans will eat huge piles of poo poo to win AOC doubtlessly takes much more abuse than that whenever she's in the same room as pelosi. Demon Of The Fall posted:twitch is the perfect platform for Dems to get a message, any kind of message out, and I think she’s used it…once? lol the bernie campaign was streaming every event on twitch, but that of course died with the ratfuck (along with every other effort at voter outreach by the democrats)
|
|
#
?
Jun 19, 2022 22:22
|
|
|
Venomous posted:tbf Reagan was a Democrat until 1962 JFK died so LBJ could take over. And while LBJs foreign policy was a goddamn dumpster fire he also fervently believed in Civil Rights and helping the poor, and was willing to pull every string and bully any opposition to get things done. Civil Rights was not inevitable. It took a lot of personal power to make it happen. Just try and imagine literally any modern democrat trying to push Civil Rights through. They would point to Manchin and say it's impossible, then get mad and call it a leftist distraction from bigger goals. Protect black rights? Do you want a pony with that too?
|
|
#
?
Jun 19, 2022 23:12
|
|
|
unfortunately the only leader nowadays willing to dominate and abuse his members until they fall in line is mitch mcconnell
|
|
#
?
Jun 19, 2022 23:27
|
|
|
Even D&D is starting to complain about how the democrats do nothing, I'm pretty sure that is the final nail in the coffin
|
|
#
?
Jun 20, 2022 00:30
|
|
|
Pryor on Fire posted:Even D&D is starting to complain about how the democrats do nothing, I'm pretty sure that is the final nail in the coffin those dumb motherfuckers were the ones harping on about trusting the process -- why haven't they tried their own loving advice?
|
|
#
?
Jun 20, 2022 00:48
|
|
|
Pryor on Fire posted:Even D&D is starting to complain about how the democrats do nothing, I'm pretty sure that is the final nail in the coffin What do they want them to do? And how would they do it? Grow up. Get real. Vote!
|
|
#
?
Jun 20, 2022 00:50
|
|
|
OhFunny posted:
This is the plot of the west wing pilot lol like thats the exact framing the staff comes up with after bartlett crashes his bike into a tree
|
|
#
?
Jun 20, 2022 00:55
|
|
|
Pryor on Fire posted:The US ran thousands of missions trying to both poison the jungle so it would die and seed the clouds above the jungle so it would rain more and be harder to travel the Ho Chi Minh trail. The nuke is not insane or far fetched at all, they already did about everything you can short of a nuke. Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:by the end of ww2 they were kinda starting to figure out you had to target rail yards and other giant targets where bombs are guaranteed to do damage wherever they fall and gently caress up production of basically everything, but yeah most of the war was just dumping bombs in the general vicinity of factories. of course there's literally none of this in vietnam since you're fighting against guerillas and other small, dispersed and highly mobile forces that don't rely on massive industrial production, so uh, yeah the oil campaign was enormously successful, crippling the luftwaffe and destroying critical rail links. as for other goals... if anyone hasn't seen the mcnamara documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOCYcgOnWUM
|
|
#
?
Jun 20, 2022 01:15
|
|
|
Best Friends posted:the party of, by and for corporate lawyers has less connection to the common man than the party of car dealership owners A particularly astute characterization that is more illustrative the more I think about it, thanks Nix Panicus posted:JFK died so LBJ could take over. And while LBJs foreign policy was a goddamn dumpster fire he also fervently believed in Civil Rights and helping the poor, and was willing to pull every string and bully any opposition to get things done. Civil Rights was not inevitable. It took a lot of personal power to make it happen. Just try and imagine literally any modern democrat trying to push Civil Rights through. They would point to Manchin and say it's impossible, then get mad and call it a leftist distraction from bigger goals. Protect black rights? Do you want a pony with that too? LBJ's bullying through civil rights solely with his dick and Nixon creating useful governmental agencies like the EPA and OSHA in order for future administrations to undermine them later were literally the last time government did anything at all for the public good until Trump's covid response. Think about how dismal that is. We're sixty years out from the last time a democrat believed in anything and actually did it (while simultaneously committing a genocide) and the only other times we've gotten anything was because of cynicism and pure ignorance about the fact that government is not help its citizens no matter how dire the situation. Maybe I'm off base here and I'd like pushback if I'm wrong but I'm inclined to think that the massive amount of lib hate for Nixon and Trump are both at least somewhat related to the fact that they actually did some good for the rabble or at least had the tendency within them to do so. Obviously both were hated prior to them doing that good, so it isn't all that, but I can't dismiss it as purely coincidence. After all they don't hate Reagan the same way and he was every bit as transformative while not doing anything good at all.
|
|
#
?
Jun 20, 2022 01:27
|
|
|
I don't think people realise quite how good an issue to campaign on banning pay to win and loot boxes is. People who don't know what it is doing care either way and people who do are rabid single issue nonvoters. There is probably about 5 million nonvoters you could turn out just by saying you will 'pay to win in video games' without explaining how or why.
|
|
#
?
Jun 20, 2022 01:51
|
|
|
banning pay to win sounds like communism
|
|
#
?
Jun 20, 2022 01:56
|
|
|
"whatever does not help you win should not be a priority" forever and ever ad infinum.
|
|
#
?
Jun 20, 2022 02:01
|
|
|
i am harry posted:"whatever does not help you win should not be a priority" forever and ever ad infinum. Which is funny because it always leads to losing, lol
|
|
#
?
Jun 20, 2022 02:03
|
|
|
Started thinking about demographics and how destined they are again. They'll preserve the dems in 2022!
|
|
#
?
Jun 20, 2022 02:07
|
|
|
Nix Panicus posted:And while LBJs foreign policy was a goddamn dumpster fire he also fervently believed in Civil Rights and helping the poor, and was willing to pull every string and bully any opposition to get things done. Civil Rights was not inevitable. It took a lot of personal power to make it happen. this is some revisionist great man history bullshit lmaoooo LBJ was a massive goddamn racist whose administration had to be pushed and prodded into prioritising civil rights beyond a Civil Rights Act that wasn't even well enforced at the time he did not grant Black people their civil rights like a loving white saviour, and frankly, if it weren't for the civil rights movement refusing to compromise its ideals to placate white liberals, LBJ wouldn't have even pushed through the Voting Rights Act in the end no, civil rights was not inevitable, and it was only because of the efforts of the civil rights movement and especially because of white liberals' fear of the Black Panthers that they even won those rights in the first place, after which the FBI thought it best to kneecap the movement into complacency by killing MLK and Fred Hampton before they could form a mass Black socialist movement anyway, gently caress LBJ, the liberal piece of poo poo Venomous has issued a correction as of 02:13 on Jun 20, 2022 |
|
#
?
Jun 20, 2022 02:08
|
|
|
Venomous posted:this is some revisionist great man history bullshit lmaoooo How many activists were senators? Also we've clearly seen that no amount of activist activity will cause any reaction in the halls of power except more money for cops to beat the poo poo out of people. Why would anyone in government give two fucks about activists marching?
|
|
#
?
Jun 20, 2022 03:20
|
|
|
Nix Panicus posted:How many activists were senators? When several million angry people show up at the capital (with the implication they could be armed just as easily next time) it's listened to a bit more than votes.
|
|
#
?
Jun 20, 2022 03:35
|
|
|
I don't know how to put this politely except to say LBJ did grant black people their civil rights like a white savior, much like Lincoln ended slavery like a white savior, because thats literally how American government works. Absent government intervention dead Emmett Tills would have continued to stack up and the national guard would have been called out to mow down panthers and nonviolent protesters alike. There is no moral arc of history or triumph of nonviolence. There are, at best, people in charge who, through either cold calculation or some spark of empathy that survived their rise to power, recognize when concessions are necessary to keep the gravy train going. But there is no requirement that they do so, and brutal repression is also a very popular choice. LBJ was sympathetic to civil rights and chose concessions over repression. He didn't have to. Its worth recognizing that fact, especially in light of the fact that the halls of power have perfected extinguishing whatever empathy a person has as a prerequisite for advancement. The civil rights movement would not succeed in 2022. Puppy Burner posted:When several million angry people show up at the capital (with the implication they could be armed just as easily next time) it's listened to a bit more than votes. I don't what would lead you to believe civil rights was the preferred concession and not calling out the national guard to fire indiscriminately into the crowd, with deputized white racists to make up the numbers. Nix Panicus has issued a correction as of 03:51 on Jun 20, 2022 |
|
#
?
Jun 20, 2022 03:47
|
|
|
Nix Panicus posted:I don't what would lead you to believe civil rights was the preferred concession and not calling out the national guard to fire indiscriminately into the crowd, with deputized white racists to make up the numbers. We're all trained wrong, like Wimp Lo, into thinking protesting is this incredibly effective panacea for all political/societal ills when in fact it's more like whatever Steve Jobs did instead of going to chemotherapy like a normal person.
|
|
#
?
Jun 20, 2022 05:01
|
|
|
??? they've never been the anti fascist party
|
|
#
?
Jun 20, 2022 05:05
|
|
|
Nix Panicus posted:How many activists were senators? The Soviet Union *existing* and giving occasional love o service to civil rights did more than any activist who wasn't explicitly on their pay roll
|
|
#
?
Jun 20, 2022 05:20
|
|
|
War and Pieces posted:??? they've never been the anti fascist party Actually, they always have been. The Biden-Harris Administration's brave choice to host the 1/6 Hearing Miniseries is the most bold and sweeping antifascist acttion ever, and will Save The Republic.
|
|
#
?
Jun 20, 2022 05:36
|
|
|
https://twitter.com/ChrisLynnHedges/status/1538568501136437248?s=20&t=XXAkFDFtolFvw1ccneN5-A
|
|
#
?
Jun 20, 2022 05:44
|
|
|
MLSM posted:https://twitter.com/ChrisLynnHedges/status/1538568501136437248?s=20&t=XXAkFDFtolFvw1ccneN5-A We'll do a Million Man March about it and show them the power of our non violent organizing!
|
|
#
?
Jun 20, 2022 07:12
|
|
|
MLSM posted:https://twitter.com/ChrisLynnHedges/status/1538568501136437248?s=20&t=XXAkFDFtolFvw1ccneN5-A Thanku for cheering me up on a Monday morning 😊
|
|
#
?
Jun 20, 2022 07:12
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 23, 2024 06:18 |
|
|
MLSM posted:https://twitter.com/ChrisLynnHedges/status/1538568501136437248?s=20&t=XXAkFDFtolFvw1ccneN5-A they need to do this to mt rushmore, that's metal as hell
|
|
#
?
Jun 20, 2022 07:20
|
|
