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Pryor on Fire posted:Even D&D is starting to complain about how the democrats do nothing, I'm pretty sure that is the final nail in the coffin Anybody here masochist enough to listen to Pod Save? When they start bailing, then it's really time to lol
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Ytlaya posted:Remember that people like D&D or Pod Save America go through brief phases where they complain about Democrats. These are always temporary and will end when the news cycle moves on. It's more just a "reaction" on their part that anything changing about their underlying beliefs. Yea at the latest after the midterms they'll remember to start punching left
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The Democratic Party is like the senate in the phantom menace
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Ytlaya posted:Remember that people like D&D or Pod Save America go through brief phases where they complain about Democrats. These are always temporary and will end when the news cycle moves on. It's more just a "reaction" on their part that anything changing about their underlying beliefs. Occasionally one of them reaches a Peter Daou style breaking point, but those seem to be the exception to the rule
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i am harry posted:"whatever does not help you win should not be a priority" forever and ever ad infinum. I agree, Clintons should not be a priority
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MLSM posted:https://twitter.com/ChrisLynnHedges/status/1538568501136437248?s=20&t=XXAkFDFtolFvw1ccneN5-A quote:What can we expect from a party leadership that believed Michael Bloomberg, who has switched allegiance between the Democratic and Republican parties several times, would save them from progressives such as Bernie Sanders? What can we expect from a party leadership that anointed Joe Biden, who spent his political career dispossessing working men and women, building the world’s largest prison system, militarizing police, destroying the welfare system and funding military fiascos in the Middle East, as president? get his rear end chris
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i am harry posted:"whatever does not help you win should not be a priority" forever and ever ad infinum. https://twitter.com/low_tex/status/1538653195848802311?t=OOCBRskwtWSclwIsUmjPTg&s=19
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Alamani57 posted:glenn gets a thread yet hedges does not, a shame Hedges content is allowed in the Glennthread
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turning a big dial that says "transphobia" on it and constantly looking back at the data scientists for approval
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FreeRangeHexagon posted:Occasionally one of them reaches a Peter Daou style breaking point, but those seem to be the exception to the rule Peter Daou was never that kind of person, though; he was always a weird guy with an unusual background who just had an insane personal loyalty to Hillary Clinton, so he didn't really fit the same mold as the Pod Save America guys or your average D&D poster (who are usually just "random careerists/white-collar workers").
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I wonder if Peter's change was initiated by snapping to the realization of the disaster to come after Hillary didn't make it over the line, despite the cult of loyalty she inspired in himself and others
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LastInLine posted:A particularly astute characterization that is more illustrative the more I think about it, thanks It’s a big part of it. Like the common retort is that “Nixon only did it to moderate what the left wanted”. So what? At the end he delivered to the many. Dems have had four Presidents since him and have done Jack poo poo. And now Trump through Tulsi mostly passed a limited time expansion of money to families and Biden allowed it to end. The Democrats do not deliver on their promises and at least the Republicans get cynical operators in who do a small amount of good.
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Nonsense posted:I wonder if Peter's change was initiated by snapping to the realization of the disaster to come after Hillary didn't make it over the line, despite the cult of loyalty she inspired in himself and others iirc the thing that turned him was when he realised the Dems had no plans to actually do anything to help all the "kids in cages" in ICE detention centres. As someone who spent his childhood who spent his childhood in wartime Lebanon I think that really pissed him off.
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FreeRangeHexagon posted:iirc the thing that turned him was when he realised the Dems had no plans to actually do anything to help all the "kids in cages" in ICE detention centres. As someone who spent his childhood who spent his childhood in wartime Lebanon I think that really pissed him off. I believe the dems turned the chainlink fence into plastic sheets and gave them free Kamala Harris books. So this is "mostly false" that they did nothing 
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tangy yet delightful posted:I believe the dems turned the chainlink fence into plastic sheets and gave them free Kamala Harris books. So this is "mostly false" that they did nothing their actual talking point was "we ended family separations, we'd like to do more, but it's just not possible. But at least those kids are with their families again, if Trump was still president we wouldn't have that!" Though as far as I'm aware family separation merely went from de jure policy to de fact policy.
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It's going to own when every Democrat president after Biden, who knows when, will very likely have Larry Summers attached at the hip to prevent what happened to Biden from happening to them.
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FreeRangeHexagon posted:iirc the thing that turned him was when he realised the Dems had no plans to actually do anything to help all the "kids in cages" in ICE detention centres. As someone who spent his childhood who spent his childhood in wartime Lebanon I think that really pissed him off. You forget, as I've been informed, that at the moment of inauguration, all those kids experienced transmutation of body and spirit and now Deserve It. The Biden-Harris Administration is just doing the tough job of keeping America safe!!
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projecthalaxy posted:You forget, as I've been informed, that at the moment of inauguration, all those kids experienced transmutation of body and spirit and now Deserve It. The Biden-Harris Administration is just doing the tough job of keeping America safe!! Maybe it's a distinction without a difference. But it doesn't seem to be "they deserve it", so much as "we know it's morally wrong, but we have no choice. But we feel guilty about it, so that makes it okay". Because the big problem with the Republican party is that they don't do preformative self flagellation when you call them out for being pieces of poo poo.
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Uncle Wemus posted:Every single bad thing cspam predicted about biden came true Most people rejected our message. They hated cspam because it told them the truth.
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biden hasn't invaded anywhere in south or central america. he also didn't weasel out of trump's withdrawal from afghanistan (i think he forgot until it was too late). i think a lot of us believed he'd be able to actually start a war as he so transparently craves. that's what his entire cabinet was built around, but they are just as old and feeble as biden. instead there's ukraine, whose us involvement consists of sexually gratifying bluechecks and feeding the mic without providing a corresponding popularity boost.
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:biden hasn't invaded anywhere in south or central america. he also didn't weasel out of trump's withdrawal from afghanistan (i think he forgot until it was too late). i think a lot of us believed he'd be able to actually start a war as he so transparently craves. that's what his entire cabinet was built around, but they are just as old and feeble as biden. instead there's ukraine, whose us involvement consists of sexually gratifying bluechecks and feeding the mic without providing a corresponding popularity boost. why start new wars when they haven't even finished the one's they already loving started. like, why even say anything in support of the brain-damaged rapist?
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:biden hasn't invaded anywhere in south or central america. he also didn't weasel out of trump's withdrawal from afghanistan (i think he forgot until it was too late). i think a lot of us believed he'd be able to actually start a war as he so transparently craves. that's what his entire cabinet was built around, but they are just as old and feeble as biden. instead there's ukraine, whose us involvement consists of sexually gratifying bluechecks and feeding the mic without providing a corresponding popularity boost. the intent of the afghanistan withdrawal was to keep the meatgrinder going for years except with no american casualties i'm willing to bet good money that if they had known how fast their lil' puppet regime would fold there's be us troops in kabul to this day
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democrats are just feckless and uncreative and their poll numbers are very low, so they're just copying what they see a much more popular party doing. They hear their base and leftists shouting "DO SOMETHING" louder and louder and so they are now doing exactly what republicans do. Hey they're doing something why don't you like them now!
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Cerebral Bore posted:the intent of the afghanistan withdrawal was to keep the meatgrinder going for years except with no american casualties The expectation was probably that once the US troops withdrew and the Taliban launched their offensive, that the Kabul govt would manage to hold out for a little while, long enough for a propaganda campaign (the Taliban broke the deal! Women's Rights! War Crimes! on the front pages of the NYT and Wash Post) to gin up support for a surge of troops to save the day. Any peace negotiations would be dead for years and we'd be there forever. Thank God that the Taliban's advance was so rapid and the collapse of the Kabul govt so immediate and complete that everyone in DC was caught completely off-guard and all that was left was to hastily evacuate the State/CIA/Contractors and collaborators who we clearly were not prepared or intended to evacuate. And don't forget that Biden has sent troops back into Somalia after Trump pulled them out
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:instead there's ukraine, whose us involvement consists of sexually gratifying bluechecks and feeding the mic without providing a corresponding popularity boost. If you thought tour botched exit out of Afghanistan ranked high on the incompetence meter, the blowback from trying to cut a major oil, gas, and food producer out of the global economy is going to be off the charts.
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Stereotype posted:democrats are just feckless and uncreative and their poll numbers are very low, so they're just copying what they see a much more popular party doing. They hear their base and leftists shouting "DO SOMETHING" louder and louder and so they are now doing exactly what republicans do. Hey they're doing something why don't you like them now! they really don't comprehend that if people want a party full of people that act like Republicans they will choose the actual Republicans. Why would you support people who are pretending to believe in right wing bullshit when you have the option of supporting the real thing.
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Stereotype posted:also we got involved in a new war in Ukraine so I'm not sure you can even put "no new wars" on a list of positive things done by biden that's a war but despite propaganda it's not a us war. you can't really go on about our brave troops to deflect from innumerable domestic problems when our brave troops aren't even there. bluechecks still eat it up, of course, but that's a tiny deranged minority on twitter. also, despite what the us wants it doesn't look like it will be a forever war. these sick fucks want a new vietnam but thankfully it doesn't look like they'll get it.
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:you start new foreign wars to conceal internal problems. it's popular because it works. but biden and his coven of natsec ghouls are too feeble to carry it out properly despite their bloodlust. I'm not a war scientist, but it seems to me to get that sweet jingoistic bump the country has to actually be involved in the war where Troops are involved so all the Troop families can be worshiped and there's TV Style Brave Man Heroism and We're Gonna Whoop Their Asses! country songs. Our Boys aren't doing no shock and awe. All that money flying out of Washington might as well be for loving famine relief or some other boring thing for as much pizazz it's giving the country for its investment. All Biden has given them is a war they can't win because they aren't really in it, plus except gas is 7 dollars a gallon. What's going to be great is when Trump wins in 2024 and immediately dumps Ukraine for whichever reason you chose to believe, prices comes back down, and the democratic party doesn't see the White House for a generation.
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:biden hasn't invaded anywhere in south or central america. he also didn't weasel out of trump's withdrawal from afghanistan (i think he forgot until it was too late). i think a lot of us believed he'd be able to actually start a war as he so transparently craves. that's what his entire cabinet was built around, but they are just as old and feeble as biden. instead there's ukraine, whose us involvement consists of sexually gratifying bluechecks and feeding the mic without providing a corresponding popularity boost. We have boots on the ground in Yemen now, I thought? Not new but an escalation
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