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Kyrosiris posted:Look, it loving says Sword Dance, who are you to say it's incorrect??? Huh????? I have to say, I wasn't expecting that one.
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zzMisc posted:Well, you can't run from Melusine, you're just losing some of your attacks.
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Jura Avis is a very naughty lizard who didn't bring enough to share with the class.
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I decided to see whether I could just do Exdeath, and it turns out... I could just do Exdeath. Had some extremely close moments dealing with Almagest since I had no way to set stone other than Shoat from the lamp and that missed, and burned every single Elixir I hadn't just used making sure my Thief Knife wielder was alive and well to give Gilgamesh a few whacks as he argued with Necrophobe, but some combo of !Jump and 🛡️Aegis always came through, and my best DPS being !Kick on Butz and !GilToss on the sisters meant that Dragon only got one turn in from imbalanced DPS out of Krile, a Vacuum Wave Faris shield-blocked, before it too fell. Takeaway from this run: don't sleep on MNK in a 4JF. !Kick is unlearnable because when it's not held down by being tied to bare-handed which double attacks by default, it's just plain (at least in PR?) a row-ignoring/can't crit normal attack with the best Strength in the game against every target on the field. Slap especially Masamune on your MNK with Equip Katana and you just carve through random encounters the whole way through because of the high base damage and preemptive attack passive. Then, when it's time for bosses and critless normal attacks aren't that hot, the character who's naturally assuming the item-buffer role can haste everyone up if they don't need heals. I'm going to hold off a little while before I submit to Gilgabot, since I technically COULD Triple Crown if I wanted to grind out a bunch of levels. But as for here: DalaranJ posted:
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 (Not anywhere near as inappropriate as possible, all things considered, but definitely the wildest option Gilgabot left me.) girl dick energy posted:I just got an unexpected windfall, so here's another 
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Jose Valasquez posted:
Omega down thanks to Control glitch, Calmlocking and throwing lots of Ragnaroks. https://twitter.com/CourtlyHades296/status/1538646282440519680
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Mustached Demon posted:We need a name toxx so here goes y'all:  And I have some other things I need to get done before I get buried in an avalanche of new game releases so I think I'm gonna stop at two runs this year (though I could see picking up another one or two later in the summer). Happy Fiesta, y'all!
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Does a Ninja's Smoke ability count as fleeing from combat for the purposes of calculating Brave Blade/Chicken Knife attack power? I'm using the Pixel Remaster in case that matters.
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After being inadvertently shamed into playing the Fiesta as Gilgabot intended and fighting garula with 4 bards, I thought I might as well make the rest of game a little hard. It didn't I face rolled over everything, Bards are kick rear end once you can start learning songs. My Berserker appreciated the agi and mag boost and my Chemist and blue mage were the support needed to take advantage of the perma stop and keep the zerker alive. Phone posting so hope this works. Jose Valasquez posted:
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Chemist wielding axes you say?  DalaranJ posted:Oh, heck, I better toxx now.  girl dick energy posted:I just got an unexpected windfall, so here's another  nrook posted:
 Got the ring in the chest, no idea where the second one came from(carbuncle?). Either way scout's honor I never equipped any reflect rings. Edit: It did not work and now it's fixed Darkoni fucked around with this message at 21:36 on Jun 20, 2022 |
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Ace Transmuter posted:What's the deal with Quantum Bard again? How does it work? quote:* [BRD] On the SNES and GBA versions, there's an interesting glitch where if you 1) have a Bard sing a stat boosting song, then 2) put them to Sleep with a spell and 3) wake them up, the song they're singing will continue ticking upwards despite them being free to act.
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Libertad! posted:Does a Ninja's Smoke ability count as fleeing from combat for the purposes of calculating Brave Blade/Chicken Knife attack power? !Smoke, !Scram, Teleport, Four Bards !Hiding at once counts towards sharpening the knife.
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FeyerbrandX posted:!Smoke, !Scram, Teleport, Four Bards !Hiding at once counts towards sharpening the knife. Wait, what? ...this game 
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Mustached Demon posted:We need a name toxx so here goes y'all:  girl dick energy posted:I just got an unexpected windfall, so here's another  Here's all 12 for the pile Ace Transmuter fucked around with this message at 17:14 on Jun 20, 2022 |
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Bard and Mystic Knight make for a pretty easy run, minus the Berserker/Bard/Dragoon Byblos that I already posted about.   Haven't done Shinryu yet, but it seems doable even though I don't have access to Berserk (applying it to the enemy, anyway). May need to steal some Dragoon Spears first. Did some of the toxxes tho: girl dick energy posted:I just got an unexpected windfall, so here's another Had Bard for the trench, so figured I may as well do this one.  Nemo2342 posted:
  I'm not sure which of these is more inappropriate, so you get two. I'm using a hack that allows Spellblade with Axes and other weapons, but I'm not sure if that makes it more or less inappropriate? Jose Valasquez posted:
  I like killing things more than running anyway. Even at 0 damage it still killed the Almagest part!
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I was starting to worry that maybe I had overblown how good the Bard is, but after watching my Bard carry my arguably trash-tier team (Thief, Monk, & Dragoon) not just barely, but breezing through basically every boss. Against NED I was cranking out over 20k physical damage per turn. From the BACK ROW If Chemist is the best job, and it is, Bard is very seriously a strong contender for a not-too-distant second Ace Transmuter fucked around with this message at 17:28 on Jun 20, 2022 |
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Job fair yourself Blue Mage/Mystic Knight/Bard/Chemist sometime and watch the entire game just melt like butter.
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I had to do Chemist vs Omega on my first run this year and that was actually pretty annoying until I figured out exactly when I was allowed to attack. You can get in three attacks per cycle of Omega's script safely. At first I was getting in a couple extra hits but Omega has a 1/9 chance of saying gently caress you if you do that and I hit it multiple times (choose Delta Attack and then counter the Delta Attack damage with Mustard Bomb). Long slow fight but once you learn the setup and pattern it's 100% reliable.
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Ace Transmuter posted:If Chemist is the best job, and it is, Bard is very seriously a strong contender for a not-too-distant second
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 Finished up my first (and probably only run) of the year. Party was Thief / Mystic Knight / Geomancer / Chemist. Don't think I hit any Toxx clauses this year but that's alright, you guys are doing great. Party was... not super fun. No reliable AoE was probably the worst part, with an honorable mention to no full-party-healing as the second worst aspect. Chemist + Mystic Knight was strong enough to essentially carry the whole game, with Thief eventually doing respectable damage !Mugging with Chicken Knife and Geomancer !Mixing as a bad second chemist.
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Did pixel remaster change how to get into phantom village? I'm at the forest but I just keep getting into random encounters.
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Mandoric posted:It's still there. Might have to flag one of the clues, and it might get more frequent once you've been there at least once, but those might just be confirmation bias.
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girl dick energy posted:I just got an unexpected windfall, so here's another If this is still going 
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MagusofStars posted:Clutching out that victory. Who needs double digit HP? 9 combined HP is more than enough for a victory, right? Had the front piece down to one attack and then finished off the third part, but it still got a double attack off of Maelstrom + Meteor. It was a real "no, no, no! Yes!" moment. Pretty great finish, actually.
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Arzaac posted:Did pixel remaster change how to get into phantom village? I'm at the forest but I just keep getting into random encounters. It seems to spawn on one specific tile in the forest (which changes when going anywhere else), so make sure you check every tile and don't just go back and forth between a couple of them.
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MerrMan posted:9 combined HP is more than enough for a victory, right? Unless you're a blue mage and love riding the high of Vampire drain tanking.
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I beat the Seal Guardians. And also Omega! Omega was much easier than the Seal Guardians. It's funny that Omega has a massive, specially coded weakness to the class. I'm not sure why Square did that, but I'm certainly not complaining.  Mystic Knight + Dancer meant for easy cleanup, but I could have slowly won with any other comp, really, as long as I still had the bard. girl dick energy posted:I just got an unexpected windfall, so here's another As you can see, I got all thirteen legendary weapons:  One of them is, uh, an honorary position. It did a drat sight more for my run than any of the real legendary weapons, though, I can tell you that much. nrook posted:
As is traditional, I did my own toxx, using the Bard's signature defensive maneuver: Constantly dying and using Phoenix Downs faster than the boss can keep up. It's a great replacement for reflect rings. I probably spent $100000 on Phoenix Downs this run, and at least $50000 on Hi-Potions. Fortunately I still get the one ring, because while Omega went down easy, the only way I can think of to beat Shinryu is that stupid Zombie trick.   And now on to the final boss! I don't have to grind for Almagest, but I should probably still get a few more levels for some general bulk, and so I don't die horribly to Treedeath while powering up.
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https://twitter.com/CourtlyHades296/status/1539034384837316609 Grinding for ABP in the final area of the Rift was needed to have !Catch on two characters and !Throw on three at low levels so that the Almagest portion of NED could be taken down through thrown Ragnaroks. Overall, a satisfying run that ended with Bartz and Krile at Level 18, and the Tycoon sisters at Level 17.
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DalaranJ posted:
 Journey complete! Zero gil spent all run. Hopefully some screenshots of my final loadouts and a little trip report will be good enough for proof. I wrote up a bit about World 1 already: Princey posted:I rolled Thief first and decided to give the no-spending-money toxx a shot, and now I'm at the end of World 1 with Thief/Berserker/Freelancer/Time Mage. Thief has been pretty crucial; a big portion of my playtime so far has been farming Hi Potions from the Fire Ship. With enough Hi Potions and the Berserker steadfastly axing away each boss has been pretty doable as a war of attrition. I'm honestly not sure how I made it past Byblos because it seemed like he was drain-healing more damage than I was doing, but apparently not! I was level 21 in the library by virtue of my first round of Hi Potion farming. I have basically no AOE capabilities whatsoever, so Purobolos was a pain in the rear end solved by just letting them all explode in my face and healing up the damage (since Galuf's gone for that fight I was able to drop the Berserker so it didn't gently caress everything up). Only other thing to add is that I expected Titan to be a problem, but since I was pretty overleveled at the end of World 1 everybody easily survived Earthshaker. I also stole the Gaia Hammer from him so my Berserker was set for World 2. World 2 was pretty easy all told; I started using !Flee liberally here, so by the time I hit World 3 I was back on par with expected levels. I stocked up on Tents before leaving the starting area, although I wish I'd gone back and farmed more of them before I hit World 3. Thief let me grab four Flame Rings from the Red Dragon in the chest in Barrier Tower, along with topping me up on Hi Potions (their common steal) and netting me a good number of Thunder Rods from the Yellow Dragons. Time Mage getting Float for free was really nice; between Float, the Flame Rings, and fishing for Death Sickle procs the crystals weren't a problem. I stole Reflect Rings from the mages in Exdeath's Castle rather than farm them in Barrier Tower. Float was nice here, too, so I didn't have to worry about the lava tiles. Exdeath himself took a few tries since my damage wasn't so hot by the end of this world; I broke some Thunder Rods to make it through and into World 3. World 3, grabbed the Chicken Knife as soon as I could and put it on my Freelancer, who is the only person who could use it with !Mug while also having Berserker-level strength; this really shored up my damage output for the Pyramid. With no AOE other than Earth Shaker procs, the Gargoyles were a little annoying, but manageable. The Black Robe, White Robe, and Black Garb from chests in here became my endgame armor. For my legendary weapons I picked up the Rune Axe and the Assassin, then on a whim chose Apollo's Harp for the third. Next I farmed a bunch of Phoenix Downs from the Pantera in the chest in the Island Shrine - in retrospect I should have farmed up some Mirage Vests too, but I didn't think to do that at this point or later on. I ventured into the Rift without completing the Island Shrine at this point, and things went perfectly fine until I hit Apanda, who was a complete wall with no magic other than Thunder Rod snapping. Sadly the only place to farm Flame Rods is as a rare steal in Fork Tower, so that wasn't a solution without, you know, actually doing Fork Tower, and if I was going to do Fork Tower I might as well just grab Meteor and give my Time Mages an actual offensive option. So I backed out of the Rift and went to Fork Tower; I used "reflect and wait for him to run out of MP" strats on Omniscient, along with reflecting Mage Masher Silence and throwing an Ether to make it only take forever instead of forever and ever. Went to the Trench, and the Three Stooges were a collosal pain. Same "no good AOE options" problem as the Gargoyles, but three of them this time, with more HP. Luckily I could count on being able to reflect Delta Attack onto one of them and eventually things lined up so I could murder them before they revived. With Meteor in hand I went back into the Rift and sailed through until Exdeath, who walled me again because I couldn't survive Almagest and the only character who could actually choose what to attack while doing appreciable damage was the Freelancer with the Chicken Knife, so it was pretty much impossible to focus fire it down. I first went in at about level 30, and after some grinding + trying again over and over, eventually ground up to level 45 so that even the Time Mage could survive an Almagest because I just wasn't able to break out of the endless revive+heal cycle otherwise. Final party, on the Necrophobe save point:     
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nrook posted:I beat the Seal Guardians. And also Omega! There's a surprisingly large group of classes that can't damage Omega reliably, and it's entirely possible to get a team with Bard that has no reasonable means of busting through its defense. Classes that can't damage Omega alone (No means of doing damage whatsoever; the Chicken Knife only punches through Omega's 129 defense if it's boosted with something that increases the ATK stat - in other words, Sword Dance): Thief Mime White Mage Bard Geomancer Beastmaster (unless fishing for reflected Thunder rolls of like 100-200 damage from the Blitz Whip, which is like pulling teeth with a pair of tweezers, maybe the second worst option for damaging omega past fishing for bare fist criticals on one of the other classes mentioned above) Classes that have to fish for high damage rolls and/or rare Defense-ignoring criticals: Samurai Monk Time Mage (through Meteor only) Berserker Classes that have to whittle Omega down 1000-ish damage at a time with mid-game Electric-elemental weapons: Knight (Doublehanded Coral Sword still outdamages Doublehanded Ragnarok, thanks to weaknesses ignoring defense) Dragoon (!Jump bypasses evasion, which helps if the Stop lock ever falls, via Trident) Blue Mage (Either through Coral Sword whacks or 1000 Needles) Classes that need to bounce spells off of a party member with a Reflect Ring: Black Mage Red Mage (can also do the equally lackluster Coral Sword option)
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Princey posted:
A fun read, thanks for writing it up. I stopped, confused, several times while reading this: “Wait. Can’t you just— oh right, you’d have to have bought that.” It’s funny that while it’s way too much of a pain in the rear end for a standard run, for this run it just makes sense to farm up Flame Rings, since you need the Hi Potions anyway.
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Princey posted:Went to the Trench, and the Three Stooges were a collosal pain. Same "no good AOE options" problem as the Gargoyles, but three of them this time, with more HP. Luckily I could count on being able to reflect Delta Attack onto one of them and eventually things lined up so I could murder them before they revived. 
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Princey posted:1,219,533 gil  That's a lot of gil. And some run god drat. I think about all the money I spent on Hi-Potions and Phoenix Downs... This is very impressive, well done!
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KataraniSword posted:Geomancer Rune chime puts this in the next tier. nrook posted:It’s funny that while it’s way too much of a pain in the rear end for a standard run, for this run it just makes sense to farm up Flame Rings, since you need the Hi Potions anyway. Ehhh, chest encounters are like the one situation where farming rare steals doesn't suck, since it's so quick and easy to repeat the fight you need. I honestly can't imagine not farming flame rings if I have a thief. E: KataraniSword posted:Beastmaster (unless fishing for reflected Thunder rolls of like 100-200 damage from the Blitz Whip, which is like pulling teeth with a pair of tweezers, maybe the second worst option for damaging omega past fishing for bare fist criticals on one of the other classes mentioned above) Technically if we're taking bard as a given then this becomes a significantly more reasonable 600-700 damage after you juice your M up to max. With mighty march covering the self inflicted damage I think it's probably worth suffering through for the clear at that point. Cattail Prophet fucked around with this message at 02:13 on Jun 21, 2022 |
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Actually, Beastmaster can damage Omega through releasing a Thunder Dragon from the castle section of the Rift, which deals 9999 damage, but you'd still need another class to finish it off.
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KataraniSword posted:fishing for bare fist criticals on one of the other classes mentioned above Look, it's good enough for OFS. 
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