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The producer himself has invited people to play for a while, unsub, and then come visit later to see future updates if that's what works best for them. And that's not even counting the hundreds of hours of content you can get out of the free trial. So yeah don't be afraid at all of the subscription part. Group content seamlessly matches you with other people doing the same content if you don't have a pre-formed friend group to run it with. They're also adding in the option to run group story content with NPCs, though that's still ongoing and will probably be a year or two until all the relevant dungeons are set up for it.
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FuturePastNow posted:The story is very good but also very long and if you're on the free trial it kind of ends after it gets really good. it's really very clever. by the time the trial ends you're either long gone because you fell off somewhere around level 38 or you're completely hooked and have already bought the subscription and expansions
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FF14 is basically when you bought an entire JRPG series bundle in a Steam sale and finally get around to playing it chronologically Like, if you only play a few hours per day while also doing side content, it’s legitimately going to take at least a few months to get all caught up
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Regalingualius posted:it’s legitimately going to take at least a few months to get all caught up but also, this is perfectly fine
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Inzombiac posted:Hey, please sell me on FF14 because the dress up seems divine but I'm on the fence: you'll like it
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Yeah, or at least start with the free trial and see how you feel. It's literally like months worth of content so you'll definitly know by the time you hit the end
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The one main thing that I would point out that would color everyone else's takes (which I do agree with) as to how someone from outside would approach them is that the story in this game is a real thing and that unlike warcraft and (presumably) other MMOs, is that here you are encouraged to play through the whole story from level 1 onwards. this isn't one of those cases where all the REAL story/game happens at level 90-99 and everything up to 90 is bullshit you either want to or are made to skip. people still talk about big story beats in this game from the earliest days (setting aside the 1.0/2.0 discussion for the moment) and square is doing a pretty good job of cleaning up the early content to make it streamlined for people so they're not (as) bogged down in old systems while still getting to experience the stories and characters and such
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I mean there are people who have fun with the game without giving a poo poo about the story and just skip all of it, even regulars ITT, but yeah it's leaving really a lot of the value of the product on the table
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Well, consider me sold. The fact that paid outfits are not piece-meal means I'll never get one.
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Inzombiac posted:Well, consider me sold. The fact that paid outfits are not piece-meal means I'll never get one. Honestly, I rarely ever see any of the paid outfits out in the wild. There are a ton of awesome pieces already in the game so I feel like most players just don't bother with the paid ones. Also as a matter of personal taste I think most of them look way out of place or only good for cosplaying NPCs
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Jun 21, 2022 22:02
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Inzombiac posted:Well, consider me sold. The fact that paid outfits are not piece-meal means I'll never get one. Most outfits come with a couple of pieces and they're usually simpler/all covering for the 'NPC's distinct costume' outfits. There are also things like demon wings and horns, fairy wings, butler/maid, etc. which tend to have three or four pieces, which you can use to mix and match. That said, everything other than a few really specific looks is present in the models available through gameplay. Even the 2B outfit that makes your rear end bigger is a free drop (if in the paid parts of the game.)
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Inzombiac posted:Well, consider me sold. The fact that paid outfits are not piece-meal means I'll never get one. There are quite a few paid outfits that are piecemeal actually. Edit: well I guess it depends on what you mean by piecemeal. Bought piecemeal? No. Comes in separate items? Yes.
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Kerrzhe posted:it's really very clever. by the time the trial ends you're either long gone because you fell off somewhere around level 38 or you're completely hooked and have already bought the subscription and expansions They chose the exact right cliffhanger to end the free trial on and at that point I just have to applaud their savvy.
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Xun posted:Honestly, I rarely ever see any of the paid outfits out in the wild. There are a ton of awesome pieces already in the game so I feel like most players just don't bother with the paid ones.
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Xun posted:Honestly, I rarely ever see any of the paid outfits out in the wild. There are a ton of awesome pieces already in the game so I feel like most players just don't bother with the paid ones. This is, I think, the big thing. Cool outfits and mounts aren't exclusively in the store and it's more about whether something speaks to you in particular. Not even special gear from particular dungeons (though there's plenty of that), occasionally I've equipped random stuff while leveling and thought "oh that looks really good". I've seen plenty of games with people showing off big fashion mounts or gear, but I don't think I've seen so much variety in what people choose to show off. There's a reason they're doubling glam dresser storage space. As soon as we clear up spots it fills back up with more neat gear. Bruceski fucked around with this message at 22:17 on Jun 21, 2022 |
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What's a good class to roll first if I like summoning and punching? Ideally at the same time but I'm flexible  Any class that lets me have a little dude run around and fight for me is S+ good.
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Inzombiac posted:What's a good class to roll first if I like summoning and punching? Arcanist has a little buddy and can eventually become a uh, summoner Pugilist punches and will keep punching as a monk.
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Jun 21, 2022 22:21
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Summoner actually does mostly work like that now 
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Inzombiac posted:What's a good class to roll first if I like summoning and punching?
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The only non-silly outfit I've bought from the shop is the Collegiate uniform, simply because I wanted a nice pair of formal slacks and dress shoes.
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Something to point out is Summonner no longer has a little dude fight for you. It's more like you summon a little guy to do an attack and oherwise your pet stays there giving you moral support. And a shield.
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the pet class in this game is kinda weird, the pet is not actually targetable by mobs and won't tank for you, but you do kinda use it to cast spells, and it transforms. summoner is a pretty cool caster class now after the rework (it used to feel a lot like a WoW affliction warlock being focused on pets + dots but now it's very different and pretty unique)
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The moral support is very powerful, let it be known
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Summoner is also extremely efficient because it simultaneously levels Scholar for you at the same time, since they share the Arcanist experience bar. It's probably how I'm going to get the healer role quests done since I have no plans to seriously play a healer.
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Twibbit posted:Well Summoner’s can literally fire punch at higher levels... But pugilist/monk is your main goto puncher and will do that from level 1 Hnnnngggggg okay I'm gonna start today!! Been playing a lot of Path of Exile lately because you get to have a whole army of monsters fight for you but I'm burned out on the gameplay. Good to hear the FF14 story is good/important. I got pretty tired of GW2's story because I just didn't give a poo poo about the signature heroes. Edit: Wait, is Summoner a proper class? I should start as Archanist first? I'm a little confused on how that works out. Inzombiac fucked around with this message at 22:34 on Jun 21, 2022 |
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One thing that I'd like to point out is that a large number of the paid outfits/pieces were available for free during holidays and got tossed onto the shop afterward to make room for new rewards. Just stay on top of doing the limited events and you'll get a number of things for free several times during the year. Even then the old holiday stuff tends to be cheaper than the store-exclusive items so if you see a holiday reward from prior years you want you're usually looking at a smaller purchase than the NPC cosplay ensembles and the like.
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Inzombiac posted:Hnnnngggggg okay I'm gonna start today!! All of the base game jobs start out as 'classes', once you complete their level 30 class quests you get an equippable crystal that turns them into their true job form. Arcanist is the base class for both Summoner and Scholar jobs, and a result they share an experience bar. No other class/job functions this way, it's just a funny leftover quirk from when A Realm Reborn was still brand new and kinda janky.
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Inzombiac posted:Hnnnngggggg okay I'm gonna start today!! Yeah, all ARR jobs start as classes and at level 30 you get a soulstone that upgrades you to the Job. Arcanist evolves into Summonner AND Scholar based on the stone, so you get 2 jobs at once! (Scholar being a pet healer who
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Okay, perfect. Thanks!
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Inzombiac posted:Edit: Wait, is Summoner a proper class? The base classes from ARR are a little weird, in that you start as a lower tier class and then promote into the proper Job Class from a quest at level 30, provided you're far along enough in the main story to unlock the feature. I don't think the exact point gets proper signposting, last I recall it feels a little arbitrary but if you beeline the main story quests I don't think you'll notice. Arcanist unlocks Summoner and Scholar, which is also weird, as it's the only class with two associated Job Classes that level up at the same time. Post-ARR classes all start as proper Job Classes and don't require promotions to get to full functionality. E: f;b
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Inzombiac posted:Hnnnngggggg okay I'm gonna start today!! Summoner starts as Arcanist. All the starting classes will upgrade to a proper job around level 30 (and Arcanist gets the option to be both Scholar or Arcanist; it's the only class in the game that splits like that). It's worth noting that you can pick up any and all classes as you play, though; you're not locked into just the one class you pick at character gen.
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Like with many odd design choices in this game, the answer to why the class/job situation is so weird/clunky is: "It's 1.0's fault".
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Zonekeeper posted:Like with many odd design choices in this game, the answer to why the class/job situation is so weird/clunky is: "It's 1.0's fault". Can we blame 1.0 for housing then
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If you tell me there is player housing with decorating I will likely explode.
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Inzombiac posted:If you tell me there is player housing with decorating I will likely explode. There is! There are limited housing slots per-server and they're hard to get, but you can probably get an apartment pretty easy!
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You're probably never going to get a house but you can get an apartment room to decorate at least yeah lol
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Houses are sold in a lottery, but A) you can only get one on a subscription account B) there’s very little that’s still free to buy, and the lots that are are going to be getting a lot of bids There have been some mentions of a personal “island sanctuary” coming in future patches, but details are scarce
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Inzombiac posted:If you tell me there is player housing with decorating I will likely explode. oh buddy,
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Inzombiac posted:If you tell me there is player housing with decorating I will likely explode. brother, you're gonna shid
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Inzombiac posted:Well, consider me sold. The fact that paid outfits are not piece-meal means I'll never get one. The paid costumes are mainly three categories; cosplay of NPC character from this and other FF games, event items from old holiday events, microtransaction sets that were backported from the Korean/Chinese versions of the game. Usually there's lots of options that you can buy from the marketboard in game. The one big case this isn't true is one of the expansions is set in fantasy asia but basically all the asian casual clothes (as opposed to battle armour) are paid. Here are the pages that have most of the paid costumes. If you DO want to buy something from there, keep in mind that there's usually a big sale during the summer some time. https://store.finalfantasyxiv.com/ffxivstore/en-us/category/1 https://store.finalfantasyxiv.com/ffxivstore/en-us/category/3
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