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If you put a gun to my head, the D'deridex is probably my favorite design of any star ship in any series. That episode of DS9 where the joint Cardassian and Romulan fleets go attack the wrong Founders planet, mmmmmmmmm
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good on you for answering instead of becoming the latest Trek Ship Questionnaire killer victim
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MikeJF posted:I feel like 90% of the background staff on the D should've been in blue. Most of the background folks were gold is my gut feeling, and that sort of smells right -- a ship like the Enterprise needs a lot of people keeping it at tip-top shape (Engineering) plus the mishmash that is Ops: managing subsystems, overseeing and reallocating space/resources, crew training, anthropology and cultural sciences (assuming this falls under the same rubric as TOS -- thinking Marla McIvers here), actually operating the ship's systems, and other miscellaneous "keep the ship and its functions running" duties. I do agree we should have seen more blue, but half of the time we saw blue it seemed like it was medical, not science. I'm sure I'm missing a bunch but for named science blues I can only think of a few offhand: Bruce Maddox, Picard's astrophysics squeeze, Tapestry Picard, and the Benzites; Data (and to a much lesser extent Geordi) did most of the sciencin' on TNG.
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Khanstant posted:good on you for answering instead of becoming the latest Trek Ship Questionnaire killer victim Yes but now I wear my love of the Romulan aesthetic around my neck like a millstone Well, not their TNG unis, they look like motel bedspreads. zoux fucked around with this message at 20:20 on Jun 21, 2022 |
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Jun 21, 2022 20:18
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:I love Probert's designs and the thought that he puts into them, but the dude can come across as real prickly sometimes. Yeah, Probert is kind of a huge prick. When they altered the Enterprise-D model for All Good Things, he had an absolute unhinged meltdown over it, despite him not having worked on TNG for years at that point. Like full on “how DARE a you defile my magnum opus with their garbage” stuff. And he is still, decades on, seething mad that the Galaxy-X exists and will trash it any chance he gets.
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Jun 21, 2022 20:49
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The Galaxy isn't that good of a design...
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Jun 21, 2022 20:56
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Lester Shy posted:There's a serious lack of blue uniforms in all of the 90s shows. I wonder if those costumes were harder to make look good on camera or more expensive or something. I'm guessing it's because they tended to use blue screens instead of green for sfx shots back then.
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nine-gear crow posted:Yeah, Probert is kind of a huge prick. When they altered the Enterprise-D model for All Good Things, he had an absolute unhinged meltdown over it, despite him not having worked on TNG for years at that point. Like full on “how DARE a you defile my magnum opus with their garbage” stuff. And he is still, decades on, seething mad that the Galaxy-X exists and will trash it any chance he gets. To be fair, have you see the Gal-X? It is absolute trash and deserves that scorn.
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The Galaxy-X represents a future timeline where things are all hosed up and the design serves that purpose exquisitely
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Jun 21, 2022 22:33
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I just don't get what a third nacelle is supposed to do
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Jun 21, 2022 22:39
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zoux posted:I just don't get what a third nacelle is supposed to do It's for loving.
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Tighclops posted:The Galaxy-X represents a future timeline where things are all hosed up and the design serves that purpose exquisitely I don't know how anyone can watch All Good Things, look at the Galaxy-X and not come away with that take, honestly. It is the perfect visual encapsulation of everything "wrong" with Picard's hosed up AGT future. Getting mad at it for... doing its job is dumb. zoux posted:I just don't get what a third nacelle is supposed to do It makes it go faster.
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Jun 21, 2022 22:55
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Should've been an AWACS dish or some kinda conning tower
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zoux posted:I just don't get what a third nacelle is supposed to do Non-warp drive, just supplies warp power to shields and weapons?
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zoux posted:I just don't get what a third nacelle is supposed to do It's for warp 13 dude, where the entire universe is transformed into lizards that gently caress
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Jun 21, 2022 22:58
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Or simply backup/redundancy.
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V-Men posted:I also feel like Operations should wear red rather than yellow for tactical/security/engineering, but maybe the red would have clashed with Spiner's skin paint? No impossible he looked hella awesome in red. I thought Spiner's paint was the reason they switched the uniform colors from TOS in the first place.
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Delsaber posted:Should've been an AWACS dish or some kinda conning tower The Galaxy with the Nebula AWACS variant dish would look loving hilarious and I suddenly need to see this monstrosity rendered out by someone.
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Jun 21, 2022 23:02
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The Galaxy-X is, canonically, a bad ship that Q made bad on purpose to prank Picard
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Winifred Madgers posted:Non-warp drive, just supplies warp power to shields and weapons? Warp core provides power, nacelles are just where the warp coils are, and they draw plasma through EPS from the warp core. Also I know there are some rando one nacelle ships in the Kelvin timeline, but I think that the Galx is the first odd-numbered nacelle ship we see.
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The way I remember it being explained was that each nacelle had two pairs of coils for an even set making the third one ok according to the "rules"
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No Dignity posted:The Galaxy-X is, canonically, a bad ship that Q made bad on purpose to prank Picard  "Ah, mon capitan, you shouldn't be mad at me for this design. This was provided to me by 20th Century publishers Simon and Schuster through the Starship Creator program. All the pieces were there, I merely made them fit"
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zoux posted:Warp core provides power, nacelles are just where the warp coils are, and they draw plasma through EPS from the warp core. The old Franz Joseph TOS technical manual had tons of one- and three-nacelle ship design proposals, but yeah the Gal-X is the first one that shows up on screen at least.
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What's warp about the warp core then? If its just for energy.
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zoux posted:The Galaxy isn't that good of a design... Yes, it can't be merely good when it is actually great
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Strom Cuzewon posted:What's warp about the warp core then? If its just for energy. It's just a matter-antimatter reaction chamber. Romulans use a naked singularity in place of a warp core.
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Strom Cuzewon posted:What's warp about the warp core then? If its just for energy. Pee is stored in the warp core
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nine-gear crow posted:The Galaxy with the Nebula AWACS variant dish would look loving hilarious and I suddenly need to see this monstrosity rendered out by someone. Got some mixed results here
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nine-gear crow posted:The Galaxy with the Nebula AWACS variant dish would look loving hilarious and I suddenly need to see this monstrosity rendered out by someone. 
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:I love Probert's designs and the thought that he puts into them, but the dude can come across as real prickly sometimes. I kind of enjoyed his "I don't know, I was just doing a job" types of answers to leading questions. The guys asking him questions are expecting that he was heavily drawing from other places and was trying to make lore tie together and he's just "yeah, it looks like a bird. Dunno why it's green?"
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Delsaber posted:Got some mixed results here Oh so that's how they design stuff for discovery
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T.C. posted:I kind of enjoyed his "I don't know, I was just doing a job" types of answers to leading questions. The guys asking him questions are expecting that he was heavily drawing from other places and was trying to make lore tie together and he's just "yeah, it looks like a bird. Dunno why it's green?" That’s always one of my favorite things - when artists produce something that has such an impact, and when asked what the meaning behind it all was, they’re just “yeah idk I was just fuckin around lol”.
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This is violence.
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Probert rules, Eaves droolz
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jeeves posted:Probert rules, Eaves droolz Wah Chang to rule them all.
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nine-gear crow posted:The old Franz Joseph TOS technical manual had tons of one- and three-nacelle ship design proposals, but yeah the Gal-X is the first one that shows up on screen at least. I think there was one in the wolf 359 debris field too. Anyways, the Galaxy-X looks better to me than the Galaxy because the third nacelle adds some balance to the design. The D's comically big saucer relative to the secondary hull and nacelles always looked dumb to me.
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OctaMurk posted:I think there was one in the wolf 359 debris field too. Yep, the Freedom-class:  E: Oh and the Niagara-class too:  So yeah I was wrong, Best of Both Worlds is the first place it happens...ish. nine-gear crow fucked around with this message at 00:18 on Jun 22, 2022 |
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You can’t count derelict kitbashes 
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Strange New Worlds had the USS Archer in the first episode It only had a crew of three, but with it having no windows looking to not have much interior space, I'm guessing it's supposed to be like a TOS version of a Runabout. A longer range small ship, but it can't land.
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All one nacelle designs look so dumb but the whole “crew of three” thing was so stupid.
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