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Tarnop posted:Despite weeks of the consent manufacturing machine running full time: How do we have a Tory government and a brexit when the UK public... Doesn't seem so bad? Have they got better?
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NotJustANumber99 posted:How do we have a Tory government and a brexit when the UK public... Doesn't seem so bad? Have they got better? 34% of the popular vote is enough for a majority if that's mostly rural areas. Brexit is more complicated because there's the "this is poo poo tear it all down" vote as well as the true believers
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Guavanaut posted:Rektcar
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crispix posted:we have public rail and buses in NI so everything was normal today There was talk about bus strikes in NI back in May but not sure what happened, forget.
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Apraxin posted:i don't have the loving words anymore On the side of the public.* * of who 58% say the strike is justified.
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More bad news for Starmer. https://www.whatcar.com/news/ford-mondeo-to-be-axed/n22845
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Apraxin posted:i don't have the loving words anymore hiding like a freak worked well for johnson in 2019 I guess
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serious gaylord posted:Mondeo man has a lot to answer for. if they renamed the coaches on the trains gti, 1.6, 1.8, S, i; then maybe I'll see the point in travelling by public transport
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Maybe we need to bring back the Independent Labour Party. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seymour_Cocks
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We like the public except the parts of the public who are striking or who think striking is good, they are not serious parts of the public and we are very serious.
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Is there any reason this rail strike in particular has gotten so much media attention? I don't remember any of the other rail strikes in the last decade rattling the right like this. "Day we went back to the 70s". It's three days of trains running a limited schedule like they do all the time for various reasons. Get a loving grip.
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It's the biggest combined national rail strike in 40 years, with a lot of other unions balloting, criminal barristers about to refuse new instructions from next week, and a Conservative prime minister very much on the ropes.
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smellmycheese posted:Kieths strategy of being nice and sensible and hoping the tabloids aren’t mean to him continues to pay off I see "PLEASE REMEMBER THE MAGGIE TIMES PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE WE NEED YOU TO THINK OF THE MAGGIE PLEASE STOP NOTICING THE TORIES ARE poo poo AND AWFUL THINK OF THE MAGGIE PLEASE"
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Trin Tragula posted:It's the biggest combined national rail strike in 40 years, with a lot of other unions balloting, criminal barristers about to refuse new instructions from next week, and a Conservative prime minister very much on the ropes. Stop bringing history into this unless you're remembering the Maggie times. Remember when she defeated the unions? All praise the Maggie times.
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stev posted:Is there any reason this rail strike in particular has gotten so much media attention? I don't remember any of the other rail strikes in the last decade rattling the right like this. I think it's the largest in terms of the national impact on train services. So it's noteworthy for that. Plus, as the Tories have been briefing anyone who'll listen, this is coming at a time of massively increased pressure on the cost of living that they caused and so it will have a financial impact on the people who can't get to work because their train/tube has been cancelled. The last Tube strike got a lot of attention in London - mostly because (I suspect) some prominent BBC execs were too gakked out over the Jubilee weekend to remember about it and therefore had to resort to getting a bus. Also, let's ignore the cuts to TfL services because the Tories are playing politics with people's commute in the long-run, hoping it'll pay off at the next Mayoral election.
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stev posted:"Day we went back to the 70s". It's three days of trains running a limited schedule like they do all the time for various reasons. Get a loving grip. In some ways its quite apt, since the final straw in 1979 that finally proved that social democracy could never work and the unions had to be destroyed was people missing three bin collections in a row. Last time I was down at my Dad's and we turned to talking politics I asked him if the current sense of national-scale "it's all hosed and won't get better" was closer to how things were in the 70s or the end of Thatcher's time in the 80s. He said that he felt and saw more similarities with the tail end of the Major government. But then we talked about what it was like in the 70s with all the turmoil, strikes, social strife and general malaise...and while it sounds pretty poo poo I can't honestly say that it sounds any more terrible than the past five years or so have been - certainly not enough to justify all the Ooga-Booga  The 70s stuff. Dad was in his 20s and living in London during the decade and his summation was basically "there was loads of social division, it felt like everyone was at each other's throats, everything was run-down and tired, all the services felt on the verge of collapse and it seemed that Britain was in terminal decline." Isn't it the case (perhaps articulated ITT?) that a load of social metrics that benefit ordinary people were at something of a peak in the 70s (before the 1973 energy crisis) and showed signs of recovering towards the end of the decade, and that the 70s was really only uniquely, horrifically awful for you if you were rich enough to run a newspaper publishing group?
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TACD posted:can’t wait for Boris to reach deep into his bag of tricks and bring out another dead cat for everyone to enjoy We already know about his tendency for rank pussy tbf. That is a solid joke and if you probate me you're a coward.
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So some absolute fucker created a bet365 account for me at the start of the month. They used my name, an old email address, my home address, my date of birth, what I think is an old phone number, possibly a very out of date debit card. I've got the password to it, timed it out for a month and sent them a very sternly worded email, and changed my password on that email account and added 2FA. Is there anything else I can or should do? How scared/angry should I be? What the gently caress were they up to?
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Dabir posted:So some absolute fucker created a bet365 account for me at the start of the month. They used my name, an old email address, my home address, my date of birth, what I think is an old phone number, possibly a very out of date debit card. I've got the password to it, timed it out for a month and sent them a very sternly worded email, and changed my password on that email account and added 2FA. Is there anything else I can or should do? How scared/angry should I be? What the gently caress were they up to? Well I'd let your bank know, and possibly sign up for one of those credit check identity theft protection things if you can afford it? Experian do it free for 30 days then £19.99/month which seems a bit steep. I think I used to be signed up with one of them (can't remember if it was experian or not) for more like £7/month which included some amount of free monitoring/alerts of new accounts set up etc.
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Whoever it was wasn't able to get any money on the account, if the card they used is one of mine it's so old I don't recognise the number, so I probably don't need to contact my bank. I timed the account out as well, so nobody can do anything with it for 30 days. I'll look into this Experian thing I guess.
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Dabir posted:Whoever it was wasn't able to get any money on the account, if the card they used is one of mine it's so old I don't recognise the number, so I probably don't need to contact my bank. I timed the account out as well, so nobody can do anything with it for 30 days. I'll look into this Experian thing I guess. I used a thing called ClearScore when my ex housemate managed to take out four phone contracts in a row in my name. I think it was free and they periodically send me an email saying “nothing unusual on your credit file”. Years ago since I used it but worth a look.
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I use Credit Karma. They're all much of a muchness really, but that one is free. Natwest also provide free credit checks on their app now, not sure if the other banks do. Sorry what happened to you, Dabir, anyway. Whether or not you've been robbed, knowing that someone has violated your privacy is a gross feeling, either online or irl.
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I signed up to a few years ago when we were buying a house and it took experian almost 4 years to notice I've got a mortgage Which is quite worrying really Credit Karma or Clearscore seem to do the job a lot better
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I was advised to sign up for protective registration with CIFAS after a series of fraudulent store card applications in my name. They also put a flag on your credit file so any future applications (including your own legitimate ones) have to jump through a bunch of extra hoops.
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BalloonFish posted:Isn't it the case (perhaps articulated ITT?) that a load of social metrics that benefit ordinary people were at something of a peak in the 70s (before the 1973 energy crisis) and showed signs of recovering towards the end of the decade, and that the 70s was really only uniquely, horrifically awful for you if you were rich enough to run a newspaper publishing group? But it was also the peak of National Front support, Clapton and Bowie going publicly fash, and Mary Whitehouse having a normal one at Genesis of the Daleks, so the egg for Thatcher's 'swamped by people with a different culture' rhetoric was definitely laid and rotting, there was a core that saw racism and homophobia in British society and said "yes please, more of that." Dabir posted:So some absolute fucker created a bet365 account for me at the start of the month. They used my name, an old email address, my home address, my date of birth, what I think is an old phone number, possibly a very out of date debit card. I've got the password to it, timed it out for a month and sent them a very sternly worded email, and changed my password on that email account and added 2FA. Is there anything else I can or should do? How scared/angry should I be? What the gently caress were they up to?
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The Perfect Element posted:I use Credit Karma. yeah but he's broken almost all of his leadership campaign promises
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Dabir posted:So some absolute fucker created a bet365 account for me at the start of the month. They used my name, an old email address, my home address, my date of birth, what I think is an old phone number, possibly a very out of date debit card. I've got the password to it, timed it out for a month and sent them a very sternly worded email, and changed my password on that email account and added 2FA. Is there anything else I can or should do? How scared/angry should I be? What the gently caress were they up to? break their legs if they live close enough imo
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When I had suspicious activity on a card I signed up for CIFAS. It only lasts 2 years IIRC but means members double check credit applications with your details. NB not all companies use CIFAS so it's not 100% foolproof. Unrelated: As I'm in rural France with dodgy internet for another few days and using my phone I'm a bit confused on the Apsana Begum thing. Can't work out if it is her supporters supposedly disrupting things or others disrupting her. Anyone fill me in?
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