(Thread IKs:
fart simpson)
|
its hosed up but i dont see the point of an nyt story about it. its a problem that should be addressed by people who live in china just like our own country’s deep flaws with aggressive militarism, police murdering black activists and covering it up, deep corruption and dysfunction on every level of the political system, politicians and hollywood sickos getting away with pedophilia with the blessing of US intelligence, etc. maybe the nyt should cover that stuff instead of pointing out china does mass surveillance
|
#
?
Jun 21, 2022 21:26
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 24, 2024 14:58 |
|
|
Antonymous posted:I had a chinese friend say to me the other day, living in the USA, "At least in America you have real courts, and police that can't just decide you're guilty and arrest you" In fairness they quite often don't bother with the 'arrest' part.
|
|
#
?
Jun 21, 2022 21:31
|
|
|
Antonymous posted:I had a chinese friend say to me the other day, living in the USA, "At least in America you have real courts, and police that can't just decide you're guilty and arrest you" the 'china must be worse than us' copium is a helluva drug this decade
|
|
#
?
Jun 22, 2022 00:51
|
|
|
Antonymous posted:I had a chinese friend say to me the other day, living in the USA, "At least in America you have real courts, and police that can't just decide you're guilty and arrest you" people just dont know that stuff. i had a chinese friend tell me i was lucky because in america university education is free, unlike china where her family had to pay to send her
|
|
#
?
Jun 22, 2022 01:12
|
|
|
fart simpson posted:people just dont know that stuff. i had a chinese friend tell me i was lucky because in america university education is free, unlike china where her family had to pay to send her lol
|
|
#
?
Jun 22, 2022 01:12
|
|
|
Yeah it's just people don't know. It's very common for people here to say that the US has checks and balances and that corrupt officials are held accountable, unlike MY country where POLITICIANS SUCK.
|
|
#
?
Jun 22, 2022 01:15
|
|
|
https://mobile.twitter.com/ChannelNewsAsia/status/1539259042425602049
|
|
#
?
Jun 22, 2022 01:57
|
|
|
fart simpson posted:people just dont know that stuff. i had a chinese friend tell me i was lucky because in america university education is free, unlike china where her family had to pay to send her Lmao
|
|
#
?
Jun 22, 2022 02:02
|
|
|
fart simpson posted:people just dont know that stuff. i had a chinese friend tell me i was lucky because in america university education is free, unlike china where her family had to pay to send her I wonder if the coming Supreme Court decision will lead to a gradual decline of people outside the US claiming to have Miranda rights that were never read to them. (people watching movies and call 911 instead of the real number + complain about first amendment too)
|
|
#
?
Jun 22, 2022 02:04
|
|
|
mawarannahr posted:drat. sounds important. unfortunately it’s a video so I will take their word for it. meanwhile the US is only contracting wellness surveillance! 
|
|
#
?
Jun 22, 2022 02:06
|
|
|
https://twitter.com/AP/status/1538595420108120064
|
|
#
?
Jun 22, 2022 02:12
|
|
|
fart simpson posted:people just dont know that stuff. i had a chinese friend tell me i was lucky because in america university education is free, unlike china where her family had to pay to send her Now I just need a story of a Chinese friend think Americans have better health system and that will clinch the night for me.
|
|
#
?
Jun 22, 2022 02:14
|
|
|
Aas long as they don't monitor wechat log they are still getting nothing.
|
|
#
?
Jun 22, 2022 02:16
|
|
|
mawarannahr posted:I wonder if the coming Supreme Court decision will lead to a gradual decline of people outside the US claiming to have Miranda rights that were never read to them. (people watching movies and call 911 instead of the real number + complain about first amendment too) you mean not just canadians
|
|
#
?
Jun 22, 2022 03:58
|
|
|
stephenthinkpad posted:Aas long as they don't monitor wechat log they are still getting nothing. Also, wasn't enhanced and invasive surveillance the exact thing the US was accused of being used against the Uyghurs?
|
|
#
?
Jun 22, 2022 04:01
|
|
|
mawarannahr posted:I wonder if the coming Supreme Court decision will lead to a gradual decline of people outside the US claiming to have Miranda rights that were never read to them. (people watching movies and call 911 instead of the real number + complain about first amendment too) cop shows are still going to have it, so people will still believe Miranda rights are a thing long after it's been eliminated by the supreme court
|
|
#
?
Jun 22, 2022 04:02
|
|
|
anglo plague.
|
|
#
?
Jun 22, 2022 04:06
|
|
|
gradenko_2000 posted:Yeah it's just people don't know. It's very common for people here to say that the US has checks and balances and that corrupt officials are held accountable, unlike MY country where POLITICIANS SUCK. We must keep this "greener grass" effect in mind when thinking about China too. Every story of a corrupt official or haughty businessman being taken to task in China lightens my soul but we should always make sure the stories have proof. What happened to that dude who probably abused his power to have that affair with Peng Shua (spelling probably wrong, sorry) for example?
|
|
#
?
Jun 22, 2022 05:08
|
|
|
SuperKlaus posted:We must keep this "greener grass" effect in mind when thinking about China too. Every story of a corrupt official or haughty businessman being taken to task in China lightens my soul but we should always make sure the stories have proof. What happened to that dude who probably abused his power to have that affair with Peng Shua (spelling probably wrong, sorry) for example? Nothing iirc, he's already retired years before it came out.
|
|
#
?
Jun 22, 2022 05:24
|
|
|
Zhang is officially still under investigation, but I don't know if anything's ever going to come of it.Antonymous posted:I would never be scared to ask a chinese cop directions. I would never interact with an american cop even in much more dire circumstances. it's wild One of the first sights I saw in Shanghai was a train station official with no shirt, and a badge on a chain around his neck.
|
|
#
?
Jun 22, 2022 06:25
|
|
|
Antonymous posted:I would never be scared to ask a chinese cop directions. I would never interact with an american cop even in much more dire circumstances. it's wild yeah totally agreed
|
|
#
?
Jun 22, 2022 07:02
|
|
|
fart simpson posted:people just dont know that stuff. i had a chinese friend tell me i was lucky because in america university education is free, unlike china where her family had to pay to send her I went to university with a Chinese immigrant couple. One day we got to talking about movies and actors, and I mentioned that due to historic antisemitism a lot of Jewish actors felt the need to change their names to something more "white"-sounding, a tradition that continues to this day (even if it's less common than in the '50s). She straight up didn't believe me, thought I was lying to her. In her mind the West couldn't possibly be antisemitic like that, and especially not Hollywood.
|
|
#
?
Jun 22, 2022 09:39
|
|
|
Falstaff posted:I went to university with a Chinese immigrant couple. One day we got to talking about movies and actors, and I mentioned that due to historic antisemitism a lot of Jewish actors felt the need to change their names to something more "white"-sounding, a tradition that continues to this day (even if it's less common than in the '50s). She straight up didn't believe me, thought I was lying to her. In her mind the West couldn't possibly be antisemitic like that, and especially not Hollywood. did she bring up whoopi goldberg
|
|
#
?
Jun 22, 2022 10:05
|
|
|
This discussion reminding me of the section in the book "Natives" where Akala (the author) describes the experience of his family migrating from Jamaica to the UK and coming into contact with poor white English for the first time and coming to realize that actually not everyone in Europe is as prosperous as the colonial administrators etc who the UK empire sent to its overseas colonies.
|
|
#
?
Jun 22, 2022 10:10
|
|
|
Falstaff posted:I went to university with a Chinese immigrant couple. One day we got to talking about movies and actors, and I mentioned that due to historic antisemitism a lot of Jewish actors felt the need to change their names to something more "white"-sounding, a tradition that continues to this day (even if it's less common than in the '50s). She straight up didn't believe me, thought I was lying to her. In her mind the West couldn't possibly be antisemitic like that, and especially not Hollywood. don't the Chinese do that themselves?
|
|
#
?
Jun 22, 2022 10:12
|
|
|
gradenko_2000 posted:don't the Chinese do that themselves? You mean adopt anglo names? There's a variety of reasons why some Chinese might do so, the least problematic reason might be that their Chinese names are unpronounceable by non-Chinese speakers, which is also common among South and SE Asians, but it's not as if they could somehow fool other people into thinking they were white by adopting an Anglo first name, as a Jewish person generally can.
|
|
#
?
Jun 22, 2022 12:49
|
|
|
https://mobile.twitter.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1539471524096200705
|
|
#
?
Jun 22, 2022 13:14
|
|
|
My pet peeve is Chinese who pick a "American" name for themselves (usually around high school when they are in China) without knowing they are popular Christian names.Throatwarbler posted:You mean adopt anglo names? There's a variety of reasons why some Chinese might do so, the least problematic reason might be that their Chinese names are unpronounceable by non-Chinese speakers, which is also common among South and SE Asians, but it's not as if they could somehow fool other people into thinking they were white by adopting an Anglo first name, as a Jewish person generally can. It's very hard to not able to pronounce a pinyin name but more likely situation is Eng speakers pronounce certain pinyin combination wrong. Most Chinese don't think pronouncing the name wrong is a big deal. When I bring my kid to the baby doctor, I can see all the children's names, half of the Chinese kds have normal American first name, half of them have normal pinyin name. This is in Flushing. stephenthinkpad has issued a correction as of 13:20 on Jun 22, 2022 |
|
#
?
Jun 22, 2022 13:15
|
|
|
https://mobile.twitter.com/CNN/status/1539511036822298624
|
|
#
?
Jun 22, 2022 13:15
|
|
|
yeah ive never met a chinese guy named like, mason, or jaden. bryce. i know a lot people with names like john or david though imo if you move to america and get to pick any name you want, you should get advice on something cool. call yourself sebastian or xavier. or throw people off and go by juan
|
|
#
?
Jun 22, 2022 14:10
|
|
|
THS2 posted:yeah ive never met a chinese guy named like, mason, or jaden. bryce. i know a lot people idk, i know a fair number of chinese people that give themselves a nickname based on someone they’re a fan of, like darwin, archimedes, rambo, guti or vito (he liked the godfather). then there’s people who pick names that aren’t really english names but other european language names, like francesca or paco or aimee. and then a huge group is people who pick english words that aren’t really traditional names, like fish or rock or green (her favorite color, why not name yourself after it?). those are all people i know who really go by those names with their friends or colleagues. plus i know a lot of chinese people who picked regular but somewhat less common names like helen, wendy, walter, ivy, etc fart simpson has issued a correction as of 15:58 on Jun 22, 2022 |
|
#
?
Jun 22, 2022 15:53
|
|
|
They should just use their posting handles imo
|
|
#
?
Jun 22, 2022 16:10
|
|
|
maybe all the chinese ppl i know in texas are exceptionally boring. i work in IT so thats very possible
|
|
#
?
Jun 22, 2022 16:22
|
|
|
THS2 posted:yeah ive never met a chinese guy named like, mason, or jaden. bryce. i know a lot people I know a Korean guy who told me that in grade 4 English class, they all chose their American name out of a newspaper. One guy ended up with the name Tiger, as in Tiger Woods.
|
|
#
?
Jun 22, 2022 16:29
|
|
|
i named a couple of korean kids dorian and sonia once because they were too shy to pick their own and those were the only two i could think of that kind of sounded like their actual names dohyun and sohyun
|
|
#
?
Jun 22, 2022 16:47
|
|
|
I know a couple Chinese Americans who gave themselves Japanese names (very short 2 syllables) I can't remember any with overtly hispanic name.
|
|
#
?
Jun 22, 2022 16:57
|
|
|
Chamale posted:I know a Korean guy who told me that in grade 4 English class, they all chose their American name out of a newspaper. One guy ended up with the name Tiger, as in Tiger Woods. Tiger is a good name. Its also a very Chinese name. Btw I know tons of Chinese with "dragon" in their Chinese name but never one with a "Dragon" English name.
|
|
#
?
Jun 22, 2022 16:58
|
|
|
THS2 posted:maybe all the chinese ppl i know in texas are exceptionally boring. i work in IT so thats very possible could also be that i have met thousands of chinese people
|
|
#
?
Jun 22, 2022 17:02
|
|
|
gradenko_2000 posted:don't the Chinese do that themselves? In fact, She and her husband did it themselves a month or so later, changing their first names to something more English-sounding. But at the time they thought I was pulling their leg.
|
|
#
?
Jun 22, 2022 17:11
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 24, 2024 14:58 |
|
|
fart simpson posted:could also be that i have met thousands of chinese people yes
|
|
#
?
Jun 22, 2022 17:20
|
|