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Moon Slayer posted:Fox News was really only just starting to spin up the "Russia is manly and strong because they're anti-woke unlike our Army which lets those people in, therefore we should be on their side" in early 2022. This is a different stream of conservative thought. The Kochs for example famously promoted "responsible statecraft" which essentially meant neo-realism. Fascists liked Russia for its leadership and "trad" culture.
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Ynglaur posted:Is Germany trying to kill its own defense industry? So far we've seen them prevent others from reselling their kit, and their own kit is a bunch of rusted, sad things from the Cold War. If I'm Slovakia I think I say, "fine, cancel the other half of our order. We'll get LeClercs / Challengers / Abrams / K2s instead. gently caress off forever." Germany has not been manufacturing the Leopard 2 in any real numbers in years and I can't imagine the ammo stockpiles for it are high enough to support mass export at this time. It's likely that the Leopard 2 is too expensive of a program for what it delivers and that they're probably trying to light-speed their new tank. They've likely been gunshy about exporting their tanks after it was revealed that Turkey was using their Leopard 2s against Kurds (Germany pulled any support for Turkey's Leopards soon after).
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Kchama posted:The people who would be in charge of bringing up the bills are literally the same people who are currently extremely supportive of Ukraine. They would not be interested in playing games with something extremely popular with the voting populace and giving the Dems something easy to hit them with. Not to mention the multi-billion dollar U.S. defense industry has a) made drat sure it has jobs-producing factories all over red states (and in pretty much every single district) to make it as politically costly as possible for politicians to vote down defense contracts and b) just lost its biggest cash cow (Afghanistan) and has been looking for another market to tap since we pulled out. That its a genuinely good cause that's broadly supported is just a bonus.
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Oracle posted:Not to mention the multi-billion dollar U.S. defense industry has a) made drat sure it has jobs-producing factories all over red states (and in pretty much every single district) to make it as politically costly as possible for politicians to vote down defense contracts and b) just lost its biggest cash cow (Afghanistan) and has been looking for another market to tap since we pulled out. That its a genuinely good cause that's broadly supported is just a bonus. Ok, do you have any particular numbers or sources here?
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Jun 22, 2022 02:28
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Now that McDonald's has returned to Ukraine can I doordash to the Sieverodonetsk front? - https://t.me/lumsrc/1899 Russia has had some success expanding the popsana salient at the top and bottom of it but has had less luck sharpening the spearhead. They were repelled at the center of the salient closest to lysychanak.
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https://twitter.com/lisaabramowicz1/status/1539407129542549504quote:Some point out that Europe’s oil embargo has yet to take effect, and say the long-term effects of Russia’s economic ostracism over the war remain a powerful determiner of the country’s fate. Those effects extend far beyond the trade in fossil fuels, hobbling Russian banking and other industries, but it is largely the sale of oil and gas that keeps the government — and its military — afloat. What a shitshow. I made the mistake of reading Twitter reactions. I guess a lot of people online would have just let Putin win? Not sure what else to think when people said "I told you sanctions were dumb!"
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Eric Cantonese posted:https://twitter.com/lisaabramowicz1/status/1539407129542549504 That was expected. Sanctions mean that it doesn't matter how much money Russia has, they can't spend it on anything. Western Europe spurning Russian oil and gas is primarily about severing any dependence and leverage Russia may have over them. Russia will continue to sell oil into the world market and there's not really anything anyone can do about it.
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Eric Cantonese posted:What a shitshow. The upside, is that their increased production to Asia and India, at discounted prices, encourages lower pricing by refiners, who then resell it to the west. The greater volume and lower pricing, if they pass it on, can marginally keep petrol prices from exploding, as they would if Russia's oil was not being distributed. So it really is a conundrum. the popes toes fucked around with this message at 03:17 on Jun 22, 2022 |
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Eric Cantonese posted:https://twitter.com/lisaabramowicz1/status/1539407129542549504 None of that is surprising. Putin's original calculation was that he could profit from the war, which would spike the price of oil. Sanctions on Russia, which do not cause the price of oil to decrease, do not prevent him from doing that. Instead the point of sanctions is to gut the rest of the Russian economy. Since the price of oil will not stay high forever, there is an incentive to eventually end the war.
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VideoGameVet posted:Russian Ammo Dump gets hit, starts exploding all over the place. HOLY gently caress 
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Is that an Instagram logo there? Highly illegal. Someone should report them for spreading terrorist materials.
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VideoGameVet posted:
Holy poo poo it starts off bad for these guys and only gets worse Props to the dude standing against a gate and casually smoking a cigarette as the camera crew boys crouch-run from place to place trying to avoid shrapnel
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Eric Cantonese posted:https://twitter.com/lisaabramowicz1/status/1539407129542549504 if russian oil isn't having trouble making it to market, how could energy shortages be pushing the price to all time highs? if china and india were already willing to buy oil at a premium, why wasn't russia just selling it to them instead of the west in the first place? i'm willing to buy that on the balance russian revenue is higher now than pre-sanctions (although it's very unclear to me how effectively russia can turn oil revenue into imports), but if china and india really are completely making up the volume at higher prices, then that's an insane arbitrage opportunity that has been sitting under everyone's noses for a while
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:if russian oil isn't having trouble making it to market, how could energy shortages be pushing the price to all time highs? if china and india were already willing to buy oil at a premium, why wasn't russia just selling it to them instead of the west in the first place? i'm willing to buy that on the balance russian revenue is higher now than pre-sanctions (although it's very unclear to me how effectively russia can turn oil revenue into imports), but if china and india really are completely making up the volume at higher prices, then that's an insane arbitrage opportunity that has been sitting under everyone's noses for a while quote:Although Russia is selling the oil at a steep discount because of the risks associated with sanctions imposed over the Ukraine invasion, soaring energy prices have compensated. Russia took in $1.7 billion more last month than it did in April, according to the International Energy Agency. China and India are not willing to buy oil at a premium, but global energy prices are so high that Russia is still generating more revenue even with the price being discounted from the current market rate.
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:if russian oil isn't having trouble making it to market, how could energy shortages be pushing the price to all time highs? if china and india were already willing to buy oil at a premium, why wasn't russia just selling it to them instead of the west in the first place? i'm willing to buy that on the balance russian revenue is higher now than pre-sanctions (although it's very unclear to me how effectively russia can turn oil revenue into imports), but if china and india really are completely making up the volume at higher prices, then that's an insane arbitrage opportunity that has been sitting under everyone's noses for a while All time highs? Adjusted for inflation, oil prices reached peaks 25-50% higher in 2008 than anything we've seen this year. Even without adjusting for inflation I'm not sure we've actually beaten the 2008 peak. U.S. gasoline prices are noticeably higher than 2008, partly because of 14 years of inflation and partly because no one is expecting fracking to come to the rescue anymore. Bear in mind that a lot of the current price spike is just basic demand. Oil prices have been depressed for the past few years due to the pandemic but now that consumption is recovering demand is rapidly outstripping supply, with or without Russia. Russia has certainly played its part in juicing the price but we would probably be seeing triple digit oil prices regardless.
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as a non-russian speaker, does the audio give any explanation for why they pile into a truck and instead of gunning it directly out of the dump they instead start an on foot scramble through that hellstorm? the sheer amount of energy being unleashed is unreal, it puts the magnitude of something like the halifax disaster in perspective
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:if russian oil isn't having trouble making it to market, how could energy shortages be pushing the price to all time highs? if china and india were already willing to buy oil at a premium, why wasn't russia just selling it to them instead of the west in the first place? i'm willing to buy that on the balance russian revenue is higher now than pre-sanctions (although it's very unclear to me how effectively russia can turn oil revenue into imports), but if china and india really are completely making up the volume at higher prices, then that's an insane arbitrage opportunity that has been sitting under everyone's noses for a while Russian oil is sold at 30% discount.
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Just to put some numbers on it, the price spread between Urals (i.e. Russian crude) and Brent (i.e. North Sea crude) was around $1-3 pre-war. In other words, if a barrel of Brent was trading at $80, a barrel of Urals might go for $77-79. Since the war, that spread has blown out and a barrel of Urals now trades at a roughly $35 discount. (These numbers are from Thomsen Reuters but I'm not sure how much visibility they have into Chinese/Indian trades.)
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:as a non-russian speaker, does the audio give any explanation for why they pile into a truck and instead of gunning it directly out of the dump they instead start an on foot scramble through that hellstorm? the sheer amount of energy being unleashed is unreal, it puts the magnitude of something like the halifax disaster in perspective No, just a bunch of distressed and disorganised kids trying to stumble through that.
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:if russian oil isn't having trouble making it to market, how could energy shortages be pushing the price to all time highs? At least in the US of A there's a lot of price gouging going on.
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the popes toes posted:Because Russia must sell crude at a discount, producers especially, but every Russian chain in the supply, essentially are losing money. That means to break even, they must increase production, and net profits are very difficult to achieve. Already years ago I read that Russia's oil industry has a lower cost per barrel produced than many other big producers.
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Coldbird posted:Trump can withdraw from NATO day one, UK likely follows, and it’s all downhill from there. Or at least, downhill faster than now. Poland and friends would still likely drag it out for years, and it really could turn into WW3 then. I think the window of opportunity for us withdrawal has thoughally closed, but the idea that the UK would follow a US withdrawal is laughable. Our politicians make so much hay from looking tough, and it justifies continued building of silly ships in marginal seats to bribe voters. Just a mind boggling misunderstanding of UK political landscape.
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Ynglaur posted:Is Germany trying to kill its own defense industry? So far we've seen them prevent others from reselling their kit, and their own kit is a bunch of rusted, sad things from the Cold War. If I'm Slovakia I think I say, "fine, cancel the other half of our order. We'll get LeClercs / Challengers / Abrams / K2s instead. gently caress off forever." Good luck with that. The LeClerc and Challenger are both out of production already and the successeurs will include German companys. So it's either the Abrams export variant or bust.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:No, just a bunch of distressed and disorganised kids trying to stumble through that. They were insanely lucky to survive. Holy poo poo that was intense
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Charliegrs posted:I feel like there's one factor that the Biden administration isn't thinking about when it comes to urgency to arm the Ukrainians and that's the 22 and 24 elections. The house is expecteded to flip in 22, and my guess is it will be full of the worst kind of Russia loving chuds at that point. How will Biden get any Ukraine arms bills through that congress? That's why they need to be doing absolutely everything they can right now while they still have a Congress that's sympathetic to the Ukrainian cause and well, democracy in general. And if Trump or DeSantis wins in 2024? Lol that's a wrap folks nice knowing you Ukraine. Trump is somewhat more unpredictable on foreign policy than the bipartisan consensus of the past decades, but he actually reversed Obama's policies and started arming Ukraine. So I wouldn't count on him automatically dropping support for Ukraine. You probably should reconsider a lot of what you heard about Trump and Russia(gate). It was mostly over hyped bullshit from the Democrats. Not that you'd want that madman back in power when the chances at a nuclear showdown between the US and Russia keep rising.
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Shes Not Impressed posted:https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1539255682947502085?s=20&t=BIDFBkF8ztjfdS11h2m9yg == A couple of pages ago... Kraftwerk posted:What's the strategic value of Snake Island anyway? cinci zoo sniper posted:Yeah, it’s just 35km away from the shore.  It's also the only access for water traffic from Moldova to reach the Black Sea and Mediterranean. They certainly seem interested making the island a permanent asset.
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CSM posted:If there's anything that US politicians love, it's spending billions on the military industrial complex, so you probably shouldn't worry. That includes Trump. Trump very famously attempted to blackmail Ukraine over the aid that Congress was sending them, so I don't think you should attempt to hype up Trump as good on Ukraine. It was despite Trump, not because of Trump. Kchama fucked around with this message at 10:40 on Jun 22, 2022 |
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And that was still an upgrade over Obama who refused to provide any weapons at all lol. Anyway, new Zizek just dropped, and it's making some tankies uncomfortable I think https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jun/21/pacificsm-is-the-wrong-response-to-the-war-in-ukraine
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mobby_6kl posted:And that was still an upgrade over Obama who refused to provide any weapons at all lol. Yeah, and apparently that was because Merkel showed up and begged Obama not to when they started sending gear to Ukraine, which, lol, somehow not a shocker.
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GaussianCopula posted:Good luck with that. The LeClerc and Challenger are both out of production already and the successeurs will include German companys. The K2 is a currently produced tank availabe for export, and the South Korean defence industries have been doing a good job eating the lunch of all the German companies the last decade.
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Herstory Begins Now posted:I enjoy the cameraman's total lack of urgency whatsoever Post-explosion conversation is fairly pastoral, minus brief wailing.
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Herstory Begins Now posted:I enjoy the cameraman's total lack of urgency whatsoever I feel like that's a pretty standard response, at least among most of the Russian dashcams video I've seen. Every now and then someone goes ape poo poo but often you don't even hear an "oh gently caress!" in Russian when someone like, watches a jet crash into a semi in front of them on the highway, or a meteor explode in the atmosphere above them. To the extent that even uh... Jon Stewart? did a bit about it regarding Russian reactions on video to the Chelyabinsk meteor explosion. Maybe that's normal though. I have recorded a couple crashes on my dashcam IRL but I don't get cabin audio, so maybe I don't go "oh what the fuckkkkk!!!" either when I've seen a bus merge into a car or whatever.
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