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Notahippie
Feb 4, 2003

Kids, it's not cool to have Shane MacGowan teeth

Lum_ posted:


https://www.amazon.com/Exile-Sex-Drugs-Libel-Russia/dp/0802136524/ "The eXile: Sex, Drugs and Libel in the New Russia" Out of print, so hard to find, the eXile was the underground paper for the American expat community in Moscow and is where a heavily drugged Matt Taibbi got his start. Lots of frankly ridiculous stories the authors admit they made up, but conveys the surrealistic atmosphere of bankers and stockbrokers suddenly finding themselves acting as colonists amidst a collapsed state. Included this because some of the articles in the book are still up here: http://www.exile.ru/about/


I still remember when they hit a guy in the face with a cream pie made out of horse cum when he won some prize they were giving out for worst reporter in Russia. They had pictures so I'm pretty sure that one actually happened.

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Nuclear Tourist
Apr 7, 2005

A.o.D. posted:

A common epithet in Ukraine and the Russophobic slavosphere for the Russian military and (unfortunately)Russians in general is "orc". While there is certainly cause for bad blood, it's still not a good look to imply that an opposed group of people are subhuman.

Hence the council of Elrond memery.

Still waiting for someone to make a Warhammer 40k diorama with Ukrainian space marines and space orks brandishing the Z symbol.

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
SOME REALLY TEDIOUS DUMB SHIT THAT SUCKS ASS TO READ ->>

Lum_ posted:

It actually came from a book which was rather good revisionist history, not antisemitic at all that I can recall.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Ringbearer

History is written by the winners, Mordor was a technocracy trying to show an alternative to the imperialist magic-driven Elvish and wizard oppression. In a deep historical irony, "orc" is a slur used by Gondorians against the men of Mordor and other foreigners. The plot of the book involves two orcs trying to break Galadriel's mirror and free the West by banishing magic.

Probably the only thing about it that could be considered objectionable (unless you really stan Gandalf or something, I guess) is that it's a thinly disguised parable for the West's pillaging of Russia in the '90s.

Yeah I'm not saying the last ringbearer was anti-semitic, I'm saying a bunch of the russian media and popular fantasizing about identifying with orcs has explicitly antisemitic (and related) themes. idk if Last Ringbearer is the specific origin or not (likely may well be or may well predate it), but especially post 2014 it's actively and explicitly been embraced as a positive thing by the Russian right and as such has become the vehicle for really all of the lovely stuff you'd expect out of the russian right. A bunch of the orc stuff from russian nationalists does predate the crimean invasion by a decade or more and while it was a thing already, I guess 2014 brought it much more front and center.


this was the specific song I was referencing

https://www.eliotborenstein.net/soviet-self-hatred/njmrdivc10ffjo8rdx1asvwg8z8ftv

Same dude goes through a bunch of other russian popular media uses of orc and there's a lot more in that same vein
[author is a professor of russian and slavic studies at NYU]

Herstory Begins Now fucked around with this message at 23:01 on Jun 15, 2022

Lum_
Jun 5, 2006

Herstory Begins Now posted:

this was the specific song I was referencing

https://www.eliotborenstein.net/soviet-self-hatred/njmrdivc10ffjo8rdx1asvwg8z8ftv

Same dude goes through a bunch of other russian popular media uses of orc and there's a lot more in that same vein
[author is a professor of russian and slavic studies at NYU]

That whole article series is really interesting, thanks. The author does acknowledge/contextualize The Last Ringbearer as part of the whole weird post-Soviet take on Tolkien, of which the far right are just the worst/ugliest. I guess it’s of a piece with the Wagner Group’s leader fanboying over Nazi Germany (Soviet Russia’s most dangerous enemy).

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Nuclear Tourist posted:

Still waiting for someone to make a Warhammer 40k diorama with Ukrainian space marines and space orks brandishing the Z symbol.

But the Russians are fighting more like the Imperial Guard.

fatherboxx
Mar 25, 2013

Lum_ posted:

Really though, the best way to experience 1990s Russia is this series of TV ads. It's for a literal no-poo poo ponzi scheme that was wildly successful because of, well, lots of TV ads.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGGSHibJ8BE

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMM_(Ponzi_scheme_company)

Current "president" of the so-called DNR Denis Pushilin was a mid-level participant in the last incarnation of MMM, proving that satire is a dead genre

Nuclear Tourist posted:

Still waiting for someone to make a Warhammer 40k diorama with Ukrainian space marines and space orks brandishing the Z symbol.

40k orks are too cool for that

Fearless
Sep 3, 2003

DRINK MORE MOXIE


psydude posted:

But the Russians are fighting more like the Imperial Guard.

They certainly don't seem to be enjoying themselves like orks would.

Hundlaser
Jan 15, 2004

by Hand Knit

Fearless posted:

They certainly don't seem to be enjoying themselves like orks would.

Seems like a good time to me! https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1537025040235077632?t=P0Y1702i05DMxlr2SWk6ag&s=19

Icon Of Sin
Dec 26, 2008



Fearless posted:

They certainly don't seem to be enjoying themselves like orks would.

Not a single WAAAAGH banner in sight :colbert:

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

psydude posted:

But the Russians are fighting more like the Imperial Guard.

Please do not insult the Guard like that. The planet fell before the guard did.

The Russians fell because they spent too much times on washers and dryers and toasters like someone with an AdMech kink.

quote:

40k orks are too cool for that
Yeah, orks, especially when you consider their nature is coded at a genetic level, they’re absolutely some of the lesser assholes in 40K, and genuinely happy with their lives, and not in a person on Terra happy to not be in an under hive way, be actually happy and fulfilled with their life.

Marshal Prolapse fucked around with this message at 14:23 on Jun 16, 2022

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010


I like that youtube puts Turkish ice cream flipping people in my youtube recs and don't like the artist using one of the only wholesome things in my youtube recs as a funny slam on Turkish/Baltic nato relations!

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006
Ok.

Armacham
Mar 3, 2007

Then brothers in war, to the skirmish must we hence! Shall we hence?
I like that

Pine Cone Jones
Dec 6, 2009

You throw me the acorn, I throw you the whip!
https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1537696927827079170?t=-vw867ELSiDjWxiCsbl8Qw&s=09

https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1537693150105444353?t=GIhEYOgbPo29Nuy78DAQfg&s=09

Xakura
Jan 10, 2019

A safety-conscious little mouse!

Defenestrategy posted:

I like that youtube puts Turkish ice cream flipping people in my youtube recs and don't like the artist using one of the only wholesome things in my youtube recs as a funny slam on Turkish/Baltic nato relations!

:finland: :sweden:, not baltic countries.

karoshi
Nov 4, 2008

"Can somebody mspaint eyes on the steaming packages? TIA" yeah well fuck you too buddy, this is the best you're gonna get. Is this even "work-safe"? Let's find out!
More calls for long range precision fires:
https://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/articles/2022/6/15/ukraine-to-us-defense-industry-we-need-long-range-precision-weapons

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

So in 40k terms Ukrainians are the Cadian Guard, because those fuckers are absolutely not going to break.

pmchem
Jan 22, 2010


https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPress/status/1538297045089497088?s=20&t=wmjkZhalAppKcUdR0zW7aA

somehow manages to call out New Coke, Bitcoin, and Germany's Nord Stream 2 before thanking Sweden

kind of amazing tbh

The X-man cometh
Nov 1, 2009
Nice use of ABBA in a pro-Swedish video

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRCNpcmxi6Q

The cheese caves are real and definitely still exist

fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



Wedge Regret

orange juche posted:

The cheese caves are real and definitely still exist

That sounds like the name of a Primus album.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

orange juche posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRCNpcmxi6Q

The cheese caves are real and definitely still exist

250+ new posts since the last time I've been in this thread. Skip to the last page and THIS is what I see.

I love GIP so much.

Icon Of Sin
Dec 26, 2008



fartknocker posted:

That sounds like the name of a Primus album.

They sailed the seas of cheese, but there’s room for cheese caves there as well :)

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

orange juche posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRCNpcmxi6Q

The cheese caves are real and definitely still exist

Rolling a giant wheel of demonic Havarti down the aisle like a Top Man

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

orange juche posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRCNpcmxi6Q

The cheese caves are real and definitely still exist

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRP0MBNoieY

"We have top men on the storage of this cheddar. Top. Men."

CoffeeQaddaffi
Mar 20, 2009

CommieGIR posted:

"We have top men on the storage of this cheddar. Top. Men."

The agency behind Warehouse 13?

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Couple of fun developments. Ukraine apparently attacked Russian offshore platforms in the Black Sea (they were captured by Russia from Ukraine in 2014).

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/20/ukrainian-missiles-hit-black-sea-gas-platforms-russian-officials

And Lithuania is blocking Kaliningrad from receiving supplies sanctioned by the EU via rail, prompting Russia to threaten to retaliate.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/20/russia-condemns-lithuania-transit-ban-some-goods-kaliningrad

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





psydude posted:


And Lithuania is blocking Kaliningrad from receiving supplies sanctioned by the EU via rail, prompting Russia to threaten to retaliate.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/20/russia-condemns-lithuania-transit-ban-some-goods-kaliningrad

do it cowards

you totally got this

Pine Cone Jones
Dec 6, 2009

You throw me the acorn, I throw you the whip!
https://twitter.com/TheStudyofWar/status/1539029089759133696?t=Gt_L-985LT_IJDQXt6AFPQ&s=19

https://twitter.com/TheStudyofWar/status/1539025317175644160?t=YJim0o2IRpmkvCLLEqV5gA&s=19

https://twitter.com/TheStudyofWar/status/1539022168960512000?t=oWiO3BYEe0sqb0pcXKyD9A&s=19

https://twitter.com/TheStudyofWar/status/1539032862858567680?t=1KNPLIZsBku9gXOLQlvjww&s=19

Pine Cone Jones fucked around with this message at 00:55 on Jun 21, 2022

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Never mind old footage.

Marshal Prolapse fucked around with this message at 13:46 on Jun 21, 2022

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Banzai!!!!

https://twitter.com/ralee85/status/1539512743333613569?s=21&t=AzAejg8qpTTgDnHw-3UIsO3wfcTcE-Upi9Yv5HQbQns

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Russia choking off Europe from gas and (I'm sure in the near future) oil deliveries was a dumb move, because now there's nobody left to give a poo poo about Ukraine targeting their infrastructure.

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

psydude posted:

Russia choking off Europe from gas and (I'm sure in the near future) oil deliveries was a dumb move, because now there's nobody left to give a poo poo about Ukraine targeting their infrastructure.

Oh, I'm sure France will still find a way to fret about Russian dignity and a need for a balance of power in the East.

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

Honestly surprised we're not seeing the various military industrial complexes of the world handing out some amount of free samples of their latest gear to get real world data against Russia in a near peer environment.

Like wheres the tactocal VR goggle inserts various people have been playing with?

Grip it and rip it
Apr 28, 2020

Defenestrategy posted:

Honestly surprised we're not seeing the various military industrial complexes of the world handing out some amount of free samples of their latest gear to get real world data against Russia in a near peer environment.

Like wheres the tactocal VR goggle inserts various people have been playing with?

I think concerns over advanced technology being recovered by Russia outweighs the value of actual combat testing

SlowBloke
Aug 14, 2017

Defenestrategy posted:

Like wheres the tactocal VR goggle inserts various people have been playing with?

Project is either dead or soon to be

https://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-military-hololens-contract-soldiers-test-2022-3?r=US&IR=T

I played with the civilian version(hololens2) and it's flimsy as gently caress.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Grip it and rip it posted:

I think concerns over advanced technology being recovered by Russia outweighs the value of actual combat testing

Just send The Boss to recover them.

standard.deviant
May 17, 2012

Globally Indigent

Marshal Prolapse posted:

Just send The Boss to recover them.
I didn’t realize Springsteen did that these days.

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Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

standard.deviant posted:

I didn’t realize Springsteen did that these days.

The Real Boss is not from New Jersey.

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