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BonoMan posted:I feel like DeSantis is a much more dangerous president than Trump. Being able to accomplish just as fascist things with less of a veneer of bombastic idiot-ness. Am I overthinking that? Trump murdered a foreign head of state and bragged about it on Twitter. He also suggested we use nukes against hurricanes. So yeah, depends on what your definition of "dangerous" is.
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FLIPADELPHIA posted:Trump murdered a foreign head of state and bragged about it on Twitter. He also suggested we use nukes against hurricanes. He murdered a foreign politician/military general, but he wasn't a head of state. The head of state in Iran is officially the President, but really it's the head of the Supreme Council.
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:noteworthy poll for the current discussion. I maintain all it will take is one "witty" nickname for DeSantis at a rally or on the debate stage and DeSantis is toast. DeSantis is a ruthlessly efficient governor but he does not have the cult of personality. And NH is all about not saying the quiet part too loud. DeSantis can certainly win the state, but I wouldn't count on him winning it all at the moment. Bellmaker fucked around with this message at 19:08 on Jun 22, 2022 |
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Here's some interesting things about that New Hampshire poll. - Biden is actually slightly less popular than Trump in NH, but still wins by almost the exact same margin against Trump as he did in 2020. - Biden is within the MoE against DeSantis, though. - Fox News viewers and right-wing radio listeners actually prefer DeSantis much more than Trump. The "normal" Republicans prefer Trump more. - DeSantis is the only potential 2024 candidate that doesn't have over 50% disapproval among New Hampshire voters. https://twitter.com/SteveKornacki/status/1539641869545512961 https://twitter.com/SteveKornacki/status/1539640732423790595
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FLIPADELPHIA posted:Trump murdered a foreign head of state and bragged about it on Twitter. Really, the only thing notable about that is the use of Twitter rather than television. Remember Gaddafi? And we've had to worry about psychopaths nuking everybody since Nixon. The most atypical thing about Trump was that he was so boorish that people noticed the fascist elements; DeSantis would be able to operate more quietly.
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BonoMan posted:I feel like DeSantis is a much more dangerous president than Trump. Being able to accomplish just as fascist things with less of a veneer of bombastic idiot-ness. Am I overthinking that? 100% DeSantis has come through the pandemic looking pretty good, and I’d imagine lots of moderates think he has the right approach to things. He frames his positions in a “common sense” way that appeals to low info voters (eg: “I just don’t think we should be allowing MEN to play in WOMEN’S sport leagues!!”). I’ve even seen papers like the Washington Post publish “DeSantis was right!” op eds. He terrifies me, my only hope is that he’s too charismatic to beat Trump. His voice is really whiny 
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FLIPADELPHIA posted:He also suggested we use nukes against hurricanes. Don’t worry, our beloved democrats quickly passed legislation outlawing such a thing 
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BRAKE FOR MOOSE posted:Really, the only thing notable about that is the use of Twitter rather than television. Remember Gaddafi? And we've had to worry about psychopaths nuking everybody since Nixon. The most atypical thing about Trump was that he was so boorish that people noticed the fascist elements; DeSantis would be able to operate more quietly. Having the citizens of a country kill their leader after supporting their side rebellion/civil war is a whole lot different than bombing a foreign government official while they are in an allied country without even telling the ally.
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Oracle posted:I can absolutely 100% see him trying to pull this. Why? It would bruise his ego even more. Unless he is going to attempt again to launch a media empire, he can comfortably complain the whole time while the GOP give him treats to calm him down. Trump was just the appetizer for fascism and it’s the worst timeline that Biden won. If Trump would have won then the battles that were happening would have continued. Instead all the libs “went back to brunch” so to speak and DeSantis will look tastefully moderate and easily slide into victory.
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Rupert Murdoch is getting divorced for the 4th time and he, his soon to be ex-wife, and his oldest son Lachlan are fighting over Fox News and the Wall Street Journal. Which, seems a little silly considering Murdoch is 91 and they will be fighting over the trust that owns the parent companies of Fox and the WSJ in a few years. quote:Some people close to Mr. Murdoch were surprised to hear of his split from Ms. Hall. I am personally shocked that a marriage between a 91-year old billionaire who married a model 30 years younger than him only lasted a few years. https://twitter.com/jimrutenberg/status/1539667769821564929
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I wonder what the road to tobacco and nicotine legalization would look like if they hadn't existed until now and some company came out with them last week? Like, pretend, RJ Reynolds never existed but just yesterday came out with this burning smoke stick that injected tar into your lungs. Or if a black guy invented it. I'm against most forms of prohibition and think that public education about smoking and its dangers has worked really well. Pretty sure that smoking in the US is far lower than most other countries so mostly I'm in favor of keeping on doing that as opposed to possibly creating a black market or criminal ring around it. I dunno... ... Its so crazy. I'm 55 years old and remember people smoking on airplanes, in movie theaters, HOSPITALS, waiting tables with smoking and non smoking sections, my parents and grandparents smoking in cars with the windows rolled up and even smoking in the house. I still (stupidly) smoke but now I might as well as be a leper, and rightfully so.
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BiggerBoat posted:I wonder what the road to tobacco and nicotine legalization would look like if they hadn't existed until now and some company came out with them last week? Like, pretend, RJ Reynolds never existed but just yesterday came out with this burning smoke stick that injected tar into your lungs. Or if a black guy invented it. I can't remember who said it, but someone said that alcohol and cigarettes would never be legal if they were invented today and you had news reports about "the new drug sweeping the nation that kills half a million people per year, is insanely addictive, is the #1 cause of auto fatalities, and can give you cancer even if you don't use it just by being in the same room as someone who does."
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Democrats are expected to finalize their primary reform plans at the DNC summer meeting and then have a final vote on the new rules and primary states for 2024. The big changes are: - Effectively ending Super Delegates by not allowing them to pledge before the convention and only allowing them to vote for whoever they want if nobody receives a majority on the first ballot. - Increasing the number of early primary states to 5 (from 4) and rotating the first 5 states. - Giving preference for the early 5 states to states with: 1) Ethnically diverse voting populations. 2) Accessible ballot laws (this includes favoring primaries over caucuses) 3) Urban/rural diversity. 4) General election competitiveness. 5) Higher union representation. 6) Geographical diversity (i.e. At least one state from different regions) So far, 16 states, Puerto Rico, and Democrats Abroad (lol) have submitted letters of intent asking to be one of the first 5 primary states. Iowa has submitted one, but is most likely already eliminated because they are insisting on holding a caucus, have low union membership, are not ethnically diverse, and are less competitive in the general election. Michigan seems to be the favorite to be the new first primary. Nevada also seems almost assured to be keeping an early spot. New Hampshire and South Carolina have also submitted to keep their early spots, but there seems to be a little more division about them. Iowa is the only current early state that is basically 100% eliminated already. Honestly, I'm a little surprised so many states are competing to get in early for 2024. There is no rule that says a state that made it into the first 5 last cycle can't be in the first 5 in the next primary cycle, but unless Biden dies in the next 18 months, there is not going to be a competitive primary in 2024. Seems like it would make more sense to shoot for 2028. I feel like there will be pressure to put at least a new state or two in each cycle (even though there is no rule saying they have to swap states each cycle) and 2024 is kind of wasting it. My vote goes to Democrats Abroad as the new first primary for comedy purposes. https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/1539677126735138818
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Democrats are expected to finalize their primary reform plans at the DNC summer meeting and then have a final vote on the new rules and primary states for 2024. New Jersey is *right there*
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Meatball posted:New Jersey is *right there* They applied. They fall in the "Northeast" geographic area, which doesn't actually have a lot of competition. It's just New Jersey, New York, and New Hampshire. New Jersey is trying hard to sell itself too: quote:New Jersey is leaning into its diversity and its compactness, arguing that candidates can quickly and efficiently stump throughout the state. quote:"New Jersey has rural, it has urban, it has racial diversity, it has multiple cities with over a million people, it has the biggest farming industry for several types of agriculture, and New Jersey has been there for the United States and for the Democratic party throughout history. It's New Jersey's time."
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Dick Trauma posted:Nevada Republicans are sending the absolutely worst people they can to the general election. guaranteed that she is a FUNDIE too, the chuds always are. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Mendrian posted:DeSantis looks moderate compared to Trump. Youngkin in Virginia all over again. "NYT posted:One of the things you also said in the memo was that McAuliffe’s strategy of linking Mr. Youngkin to former President Donald Trump was ineffective. What in the conversations with your groups made that clear? No one cared that Trump was a maniac, they cared that he acted like a maniac. Just like his own base loves him because he yells a lot and looks like he's owning the libs, but they wouldn't be able to name three of his policies and legislative accomplishments. It's all surface level presentation. The reason those voters didn't dislike Trump's policies is because they couldn't even tell you what any of his policies were, voters don't even know that the President doesn't control gas prices with giant levers in his desk. -Blackadder- fucked around with this message at 03:17 on Jun 23, 2022 |
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FLIPADELPHIA posted:Trump murdered a foreign head of state and bragged about it on Twitter. He also suggested we use nukes against hurricanes. Dangerous in the sense that he can likely get even MORE done based on the veneer of doing it in a less bombastic way.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:They applied. but this would violate the anicent pacts of NJ getting the landfills and dumps of the area, while NY, DC, and etc gets the human trash of bankers, lawyers, and politicians/diplomats/lobbists? PhazonLink fucked around with this message at 20:22 on Jun 22, 2022 |
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give alabama one of the first primary status so I can go and watch the circus firsthand No other reason but its a good one
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World Famous W posted:give alabama one of the first primary status so I can go and watch the circus firsthand They didn't apply. Georgia, South Carolina, and Texas are competing for the Southeast region.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:
Maybe someone will finally pay some loving attention to Washington State.
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BiggerBoat posted:Trump would never agree to be VICE anything. His whole deal is being the center of attention and The Most Important Guy this. i suspect trump will try to start his run "soonish"(either july or right before/after midterm) i think trump beats desantis because he is the OG chud and not some weird ghoul who barely won his last race. i think desantis also runs into alot of issues trump does in the general too but he doesnt have trumps hosed up "charisma" and desantis is just famous for (outside chud circles) as some giant bigoted rear end in a top hat who hosed up covid and went after kids and teachers and disney over turning red and more importantly, he acts like a giant dickhead. Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 20:33 on Jun 22, 2022 |
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Solkanar512 posted:Maybe someone will finally pay some loving attention to Washington State. They submitted for the "West" region. Colorado, Nevada, Washington, and Nebraska are in the running for that slot. This is the full list of applicants. The final decisions for each region will be made on July 8th and 9th. quote:Iowa, Nevada, New Hampshire, South Carolina, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Georgia, Illinois, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, Nebraska, New Jersey, New York, Oklahoma, Texas, Washington, Puerto Rico, and Democrats Abroad. Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 20:36 on Jun 22, 2022 |
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-Blackadder- posted:Youngkin in Virginia all over again. younkin won because he played the moderate and didnt bang the openly socialy conservative dickhead drum as loud and hid it behind buzzwords and the fact that tmac hosed up and younkin kept trump away for the most part. GOP wins the general in a heartbeat if they get a dude who can pretend to be actually moderate. the problem is those folks don't win the primary outside rigging the game(like youngkin did).
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The 8th Circuit ruled against a man who had sued a state saying that forcing him to sign a pledge not to boycott Israel does not violate the 1st Amendment. https://twitter.com/juliabacha/status/1539673632062013446?s=21&t=_VlQaXPYfWmTrEnesmTn7w
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Colorado should be in the first 5 for sure. We're a trifecta blue state in the middle of a sea of red.
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:Colorado should be in the first 5 for sure. We're a trifecta blue state in the middle of a sea of red. Does Colorado or Washington have better regional fair food that is disgusting, but people have to pretend to like because locals insist it is actually great?
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all fair food is good and to pretend otherwise marks you as a traitor of the working class
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World Famous W posted:all fair food is good and to pretend otherwise marks you as a traitor of the working class Even "Salad on a Stick"? /https://www.thedailymeal.com/sites/default/files/slideshows/3514/2222159/shantelle_b_salad_iowa.jpg) Or deep fried bubble gum? /https://www.thedailymeal.com/sites/default/files/slideshows/3514/2222159/gangy_j_bubblegum.jpg)
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Does Colorado or Washington have better regional fair food that is disgusting, but people have to pretend to like because locals insist it is actually great? World Famous W posted:all fair food is good and to pretend otherwise marks you as a traitor of the working class  or diabetic. We have all the standard fair food, lots of craft beer, and even more weed. Our airport is likely central to the Illuminati's plans of world domination and it is protected by a giant blue demon horse with red eyes named Blucifer. Blucifer murdered his creator only to be displayed as a warning to others that dare wander into the weird depths of the airport. There's also a weird regional game called cornholing that everyone loves for some reason where you throw a beanbag into a board with holes in it while drinking lots.
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FLIPADELPHIA posted:Trump murdered a foreign head of state and bragged about it on Twitter. He also suggested we use nukes against hurricanes. He killed the leader of Iran's Quds Force, not a head of state
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That's a perfectly acceptable Italian appetizer made mobile. Whatever state is responsible for this deserves a seat at the table imgo* (not a typo, the g = Gabbagoolean)
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Lib and let die posted:That's a perfectly acceptable Italian appetizer made mobile. Whatever state is responsible for this deserves a seat at the table imgo* That would be called a Caprese kabob in the west. Tomato with mozzarella and basil is basically a side dish. they even drizzled some balsamic and olive oil on there for you.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Even "Salad on a Stick"? I can actively feel my life getting worse for not having tried deep fried bubblegum yet
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Does Colorado or Washington have better regional fair food that is disgusting, but people have to pretend to like because locals insist it is actually great? We have this, and it's loving awesome and found pretty much everywhere.  Bask in it's glory, a meal fit for the everyman.
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:That would be called a Caprese kabob in the west. Tomato with mozzarella and basil is basically a side dish. they even drizzled some balsamic on there for you. It's the exact kind of thing that you can grab on the way out the door to a shakedown, and then have a sharp pointy object at the ready when it comes time to convince your uh...client...to pay their debts.
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